PHASE 2 Theory: Part 2
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College Beekeeper
Mar 27, 2011, 4:16:04 PM3/27/11
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HELLO!
Happy Sunday to y'all, and we've got some more videos/websites for
you.
Hope you all had a chance to watch the last ones, cause we're now
running to round two.
We did have some questions, but really, the more the merrier, so
please do ask away. In order to post a question, you can go the
google groups webpage, but you can ALSO just reply from the email you
get. So either works. And don't be shy.
As you might have expected, we're going to continue with our southern
gentleman, Keith Delaplane, who wears suspenders like no other, but
also rocks out his beekeeping skills with sweet sounds of synthesized
music.
SO!
Watch the full chapters, but the link will take you to the first
segment of the chapter:
Chapter 4
http://www.youtube.com/user/BeeHealth#p/u/14/Db8ncLeytZQ
Chapter 5
http://www.youtube.com/user/BeeHealth#p/u/13/Jd5FUJ1qDAo
(scary bit at video 5.1, 5:14)
In addition, I figured it would be good to see a more practical video,
for something everyone is going to have to learn: lighting a smoker.
As you'll notice, there are a million methods for doing it, and
everyone thinks they know the best way to do it. But check em out,
cause you'll be doing it for yourself soon. (and the background music
in one is quite enjoyable)
LIGHTING A SMOKER!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39j7xKa3ViI
and
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qh0QcYfKz-Q&feature=related
If people would like more of these practical videos, please let me
know. It's good to have a prior idea, but remember, doing it will be
the best lesson.
AND, the last thing:
Here's a website that's less about learning, but has lots of different
information around beekeeping:
http://www.beeculture.com/
AND, for something specific to check out, about urban beekeeping, and
the legal status in cities in the USA. Recently, New York City
overturned their ban on beekeeping, which is great, cause urban
beekeepers were allowed to come out of hiding!
http://www.thedailygreen.com/environmental-news/blogs/bees/illegal-urban-beekeeping-0602
Have a good week,
check out the videos when you get a chance,
and ask QUESTIONS if you've got em!
Cheers,
Michael
Happy Sunday to y'all, and we've got some more videos/websites for
you.
Hope you all had a chance to watch the last ones, cause we're now
running to round two.
We did have some questions, but really, the more the merrier, so
please do ask away. In order to post a question, you can go the
google groups webpage, but you can ALSO just reply from the email you
get. So either works. And don't be shy.
As you might have expected, we're going to continue with our southern
gentleman, Keith Delaplane, who wears suspenders like no other, but
also rocks out his beekeeping skills with sweet sounds of synthesized
music.
SO!
Watch the full chapters, but the link will take you to the first
segment of the chapter:
Chapter 4
http://www.youtube.com/user/BeeHealth#p/u/14/Db8ncLeytZQ
Chapter 5
http://www.youtube.com/user/BeeHealth#p/u/13/Jd5FUJ1qDAo
(scary bit at video 5.1, 5:14)
In addition, I figured it would be good to see a more practical video,
for something everyone is going to have to learn: lighting a smoker.
As you'll notice, there are a million methods for doing it, and
everyone thinks they know the best way to do it. But check em out,
cause you'll be doing it for yourself soon. (and the background music
in one is quite enjoyable)
LIGHTING A SMOKER!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39j7xKa3ViI
and
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qh0QcYfKz-Q&feature=related
If people would like more of these practical videos, please let me
know. It's good to have a prior idea, but remember, doing it will be
the best lesson.
AND, the last thing:
Here's a website that's less about learning, but has lots of different
information around beekeeping:
http://www.beeculture.com/
AND, for something specific to check out, about urban beekeeping, and
the legal status in cities in the USA. Recently, New York City
overturned their ban on beekeeping, which is great, cause urban
beekeepers were allowed to come out of hiding!
http://www.thedailygreen.com/environmental-news/blogs/bees/illegal-urban-beekeeping-0602
Have a good week,
check out the videos when you get a chance,
and ask QUESTIONS if you've got em!
Cheers,
Michael
Cruz-Mermy, Meryl
Mar 28, 2011, 11:07:44 AM3/28/11
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Dear Michael,
I forgot to ask you, when will be the next meeting?
Thank you!
Meryl
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Date d'envoi : dimanche 27 mars 2011 22:16
À : BEE Team of Wageningen
Objet : PHASE 2 Theory: Part 2
I forgot to ask you, when will be the next meeting?
Thank you!
Meryl
________________________________________
De : wageningen-stu...@googlegroups.com [wageningen-stu...@googlegroups.com] de la part de College Beekeeper [collegeb...@gmail.com]
Date d'envoi : dimanche 27 mars 2011 22:16
À : BEE Team of Wageningen
Objet : PHASE 2 Theory: Part 2
College Beekeeper
Mar 28, 2011, 2:55:35 PM3/28/11
to wageningen-stu...@googlegroups.com, Cruz-Mermy, Meryl
Our next face to face meeting will take place in the first week of GOOD weather in April.
Seeing as things are going so well now, that could be sometime in the week of April 4th to the 10th, but we'll have a survey done so people can vote for which day/time is best.
The basic questions is if weekdays or weekends are better, and if around noon or early afternoon is better.
--
Seeing as things are going so well now, that could be sometime in the week of April 4th to the 10th, but we'll have a survey done so people can vote for which day/time is best.
The basic questions is if weekdays or weekends are better, and if around noon or early afternoon is better.
College Beekeeper
"Helping students initiate beekeeping programs at their place of education."
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David
Mar 30, 2011, 4:08:49 PM3/30/11
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hello,
a smal question
does every beekeeper in the netherlands (and europe) keep the same
(sub)specie of honeybee?
thank you
david
On 28 mrt, 20:55, College Beekeeper <collegebeekee...@gmail.com>
wrote:
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a smal question
does every beekeeper in the netherlands (and europe) keep the same
(sub)specie of honeybee?
thank you
david
On 28 mrt, 20:55, College Beekeeper <collegebeekee...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Our next face to face meeting will take place in the first week of GOOD
> weather in April.
>
> Seeing as things are going so well now, that could be sometime in the week
> of April 4th to the 10th, but we'll have a survey done so people can vote
> for which day/time is best.
>
> The basic questions is if weekdays or weekends are better, and if around
> noon or early afternoon is better.
>
> On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 5:07 PM, Cruz-Mermy, Meryl
> <meryl.cruz-me...@wur.nl>wrote:
> weather in April.
>
> Seeing as things are going so well now, that could be sometime in the week
> of April 4th to the 10th, but we'll have a survey done so people can vote
> for which day/time is best.
>
> The basic questions is if weekdays or weekends are better, and if around
> noon or early afternoon is better.
>
> On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 5:07 PM, Cruz-Mermy, Meryl
>
>
>
> > Dear Michael,
> > I forgot to ask you, when will be the next meeting?
> > Thank you!
> > Meryl
> > ________________________________________
> > De : wageningen-stu...@googlegroups.com [
> > wageningen-stu...@googlegroups.com] de la part de College
> > Beekeeper [collegebeekee...@gmail.com]
>
>
> > Dear Michael,
> > I forgot to ask you, when will be the next meeting?
> > Thank you!
> > Meryl
> > ________________________________________
> > De : wageningen-stu...@googlegroups.com [
> > wageningen-stu...@googlegroups.com] de la part de College
>
> > Have a good week,
> > check out the videos when you get a chance,
> > and ask QUESTIONS if you've got em!
>
> > Cheers,
> > Michael
>
> --
>
> College Beekeeper
> "Helping students initiate beekeeping programs at their place of education."https://sites.google.com/site/*collegebeekeeper*/<https://sites.google.com/site/collegebeekeeper/>
> > Have a good week,
> > check out the videos when you get a chance,
> > and ask QUESTIONS if you've got em!
>
> > Cheers,
> > Michael
>
> --
>
> College Beekeeper
> Skype: College Beekeeper
> Facebook: Apis mellifera, email: collegebeekee...@gmail.com
College Beekeeper
Mar 31, 2011, 2:16:33 AM3/31/11
to wageningen-stu...@googlegroups.com, David
Good question!
there are many different subspecies of honeybees (apis mellifera), and many times breeders will use a common name for their breed, even if its likely a mix. such as russian bees, italian bees, carniolan bees, etc.
heres a website that i searched for, check out the map image lower on the page, which wasnt the one i really wanted, but does get the idea across. (the one i like is from a seeley book, with the names written in, and includes africa and asia)
http://www.sicamm.org/WhatApis.html
Cheers,
Michael
there are many different subspecies of honeybees (apis mellifera), and many times breeders will use a common name for their breed, even if its likely a mix. such as russian bees, italian bees, carniolan bees, etc.
heres a website that i searched for, check out the map image lower on the page, which wasnt the one i really wanted, but does get the idea across. (the one i like is from a seeley book, with the names written in, and includes africa and asia)
http://www.sicamm.org/WhatApis.html
Cheers,
Michael
Facebook: Apis mellifera, email: collegeb...@gmail.com
Bram Cornelissen
Mar 31, 2011, 2:57:56 AM3/31/11
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Indeed a good question!
The Netherlands is within the natural distribution of Apis mellifera
mellifera. It's popular name is the Black bee. Alas this subspecies
can't be found in the Netherlands anymore, due to introgression with
imported subspecies (google schollar: solignac + apis mellifera should
give some results) . There is an indication though that the black bee
still occurs on Texel.
Most beekeepers don't breed bees and keep a mishmash of subspecies,
simply because they let their queens mate uncontrolled. In this
population the genetic profile looks a lot like that of the black bee,
with bits and pieces of mostly carnolian (Apis mellifera carnica),
Italian (Apis melliffera ligustica) and buckfast bees.
Some beekeepers do use certain subspecies. mainly the ones mentioned
above. Most commonly they are chosen for the beekeepers preffered
properties, e.g. friendly, good honey yield, etc. There is for
instance a Carnica breeding station on Terschelling which sells mated
Carnolian bees.
The bees we use are always hybrids. There's no specific reason, but it
does garanty the highest genetic variety. There is some concern that
the genetic variety of the honey bee in for instance Germany is
critically low (read Moritz 2007?) due to intensive breeding programs.
Besides there is likely a trade off when you select for certain
properties beekeepers like. Best leave it up to the bees!
Cheers, Bram
On Mar 31, 8:16 am, College Beekeeper <collegebeekee...@gmail.com>
wrote:
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>
> - Show quoted text -
The Netherlands is within the natural distribution of Apis mellifera
mellifera. It's popular name is the Black bee. Alas this subspecies
can't be found in the Netherlands anymore, due to introgression with
imported subspecies (google schollar: solignac + apis mellifera should
give some results) . There is an indication though that the black bee
still occurs on Texel.
Most beekeepers don't breed bees and keep a mishmash of subspecies,
simply because they let their queens mate uncontrolled. In this
population the genetic profile looks a lot like that of the black bee,
with bits and pieces of mostly carnolian (Apis mellifera carnica),
Italian (Apis melliffera ligustica) and buckfast bees.
Some beekeepers do use certain subspecies. mainly the ones mentioned
above. Most commonly they are chosen for the beekeepers preffered
properties, e.g. friendly, good honey yield, etc. There is for
instance a Carnica breeding station on Terschelling which sells mated
Carnolian bees.
The bees we use are always hybrids. There's no specific reason, but it
does garanty the highest genetic variety. There is some concern that
the genetic variety of the honey bee in for instance Germany is
critically low (read Moritz 2007?) due to intensive breeding programs.
Besides there is likely a trade off when you select for certain
properties beekeepers like. Best leave it up to the bees!
Cheers, Bram
On Mar 31, 8:16 am, College Beekeeper <collegebeekee...@gmail.com>
wrote:
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> - Show quoted text -
Sibilla
Mar 31, 2011, 7:29:22 AM3/31/11
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Hi! I have a question.
In video 5.1 around min.7.00 we see that the beekeeper removes a stack
of sick broods and puts in one full of good eggs from another
hive.....and then puts the infected one in the good beehive! Why?
And, isn't it strange to put a stack full of bees into a different
hive? Aren't they going to kill each others because they don't belong
to the same family?
Thanks a lot for your answers!
ciao,
Sibilla
In video 5.1 around min.7.00 we see that the beekeeper removes a stack
of sick broods and puts in one full of good eggs from another
hive.....and then puts the infected one in the good beehive! Why?
And, isn't it strange to put a stack full of bees into a different
hive? Aren't they going to kill each others because they don't belong
to the same family?
Thanks a lot for your answers!
ciao,
Sibilla
Bram Cornelissen
Mar 31, 2011, 11:16:54 AM3/31/11
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Hi Sibilla,
I would forget all about this. In Europe antibiotics are not allowed
against European foulbrood.
EFB is very infectious, so hanging a broodcomb from a diseased colony
in another one is definitely not a good idea!
In NL we use a shookswarm method. The principle behind this method can
be compared with absconding in wild bee colonies, where the bees leave
the nest if disease pressure has mounted too high, and start a new
nest somewhere else. What you do is you put the adult bees in a new
clean hive on clean frames and let them start over again. It is well
described by our colleagues in the uk: https://secure.fera.defra.gov.uk/beebase/index.cfm?pageid=89
. Check there website for more info on diseases. It's really good
(I'll add it to the links)!
In general you can keep bees without all the disease control, as long
as you take preventive measures, e.g. clean material, plenty of food,
etc.
In most European countries the stuff used in the US is prohibited. The
exception being varroacides, although you have good organic acids and
esential oils for that. We'll do a class on diseases and control in
the future to explain more.
Your second question is about if bees kill eachother when they frames
are interchanged between colonies.
Depends on the season mostly. In spring it'll do no harm. in autumn
they will fight eachother for sure!
Cheers Bram
I would forget all about this. In Europe antibiotics are not allowed
against European foulbrood.
EFB is very infectious, so hanging a broodcomb from a diseased colony
in another one is definitely not a good idea!
In NL we use a shookswarm method. The principle behind this method can
be compared with absconding in wild bee colonies, where the bees leave
the nest if disease pressure has mounted too high, and start a new
nest somewhere else. What you do is you put the adult bees in a new
clean hive on clean frames and let them start over again. It is well
described by our colleagues in the uk: https://secure.fera.defra.gov.uk/beebase/index.cfm?pageid=89
. Check there website for more info on diseases. It's really good
(I'll add it to the links)!
In general you can keep bees without all the disease control, as long
as you take preventive measures, e.g. clean material, plenty of food,
etc.
In most European countries the stuff used in the US is prohibited. The
exception being varroacides, although you have good organic acids and
esential oils for that. We'll do a class on diseases and control in
the future to explain more.
Your second question is about if bees kill eachother when they frames
are interchanged between colonies.
Depends on the season mostly. In spring it'll do no harm. in autumn
they will fight eachother for sure!
Cheers Bram
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