FW: [MHMA] Portland Movement Analysis Notes from Tuesday March 3, 2015.
Andy Hill
I’m passing this on largely as I find it both amazing and inspiring that our southern friends are keeping up the instructor mojo right now. Hard to do so in our next of the woods. Strong work MHMA!
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Movement Analysis Summary for 3/10.2015
Jenn, Jamie, Richard shared their takes from the DCL/TD training from Stevens Pass last weekend.
Jenn said focus on skiing, ma and teaching, equally balanced.
Her takeaway was to keep it simpke, clear and concise. Clear directions, very specific.
Specific to exams, what do you see the ski doing? use language of MA, is it slipping, sliding or skidding? What is the body doing to effect what the ski is doing on the snow (ski/snow interaction) name the body part that needs to move, flex, or extend to make the ski doing something different. Be positive but no judgement calls. WHAT DO YOU SEE THE SKI DOING, does it rotate, bend, or tip
Level III exam is to improve the performance of the group.
Five fundamentals - what do they mean. Check for understanding.
Also review the National Standards
Groups were formed and those taking exams this year were asked to provide MA on the skier in the video, John provided exam like questions to help those folks who plan on doing the exams and gave feedback on what would or would not pass. Very helpful!
My takeaway was:
On the last skier that I observed I would now change to this:
I saw the ski coming off the snow, I saw the ski excelerating during the shaping of the turn. This caused a hop like movement to turn the ski and apply pressure in a static move. She also needed to twist her upper body to turn the ski instead of using her feet and legs, this prevented upper/lower body seperation.
I would like to see the ski stay on the snow by moving her body in a forward position by opening the knees and hips. This would help her to guide the ski on the snow and alleviate the hop so she can pressure the ski more progressively. I would like to see more pressure on the outside ski.
Why I would like to see this is so that she can be more efficient in her movements, cleaning up the turn shape allowing for the progressively pressured turn shape to control her speed. She would also use less energy and be able to ski longer.
I may use the phantom pole touch to help her with this and/or railroad track turns - have her ski medium radius turns with a narrow arc in the snow, skis in contact with the snow at all times, with the hips staying roughly the same distance off the snow.
Peace out
Carla
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Subject: [MHMA] Portland Movement Analysis Notes from Tuesday March 3, 2015.
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2015 17:20:59 -0700Movement Analysis Summary by Chris Barns 3/3/15
What (do you see), What (do you want to see), Why (do you want to see it), So that (desired outcome)
We split into teams of two and then were only reporting out every other time to speed things up. As the evening progressed we also increasingly limited the viewings on the videos and the report out times.
Skier #1
My observations
Turn initiates with a quick pressure shift, quick rotation, and some weight to outside ski but needs more.
Pole plant is basket forward risking shock and pushing the body back
Jen – Extension forward and downhill towards apex, flex forward thru finish.
Skill = pressure
Dave – nice turns, skidded, up rather than into turn, extension and skidding, reduce rotary.
Drill – Garlands, hips in the direction of turns, transfer to uphill ski. Activate ski turning through pressure to outside ski. Rotary rather than – divergence
Karla- Liked upper body, saw excessive skidding. Like to see pressure on new outside ski, extend into rather than up. Decrease skidding.
Drill – traverse and step onto uphill/new outside ski before initiating the turn. – Pressure
Skier #2
My observations
Z shaped turn, too much inside pressure, quick rotary, better poles, less upper/lower body separation.
Work on Progressive up, inside/outside, rotary, bicycle turn, lift inside hip, practice “patience turns” extension (long leg/short leg), and rotary early in turn just after initiation to apex and range of motion throughout turn. Increase upper/lower body separation and foot to foot pressure.
Evidence – clean outside ski track
Tom/Chris – Skidding at apex. Quick extension with weight on inside ski, need outside ski pressure.
Drill – patience turns with early pressure to new outside ski to moderate rotary motion and keep the ski tracking. Counting to extension and bicycle long/short leg.
Success = feeling clean outside ski turning, clean track.
Shawn/Matt – Skies wavering, tips diverging. Focus pressure to outside ski, lift heel of inside ski. Balance over outside ski. Stop and look at tracks.
Skill = pressure ski to ski
Richard/English – Hipometer – keep poles parallel to slope. Pressuring inside too much, keep hipometer parallel to slope and not focus on perpendicular to fall line.
Drill – Extension 12321 flexing
Skier #3 - Jeremy
My observations
Hard to improve – take to a steeper longer slope to increase challenge.
Work on hand stability, outside ski, smooth things out.
Jena/Steve –Little aft, little late, carve starts late. Pressure more forward and earlier in top of turn.
Skill – fore/aft pressure. Relationship of COM to pressure along the length of the ski.
Wid/Russ – Forward pressure, top of the turn. Slow him down to challenge and work on garlands, or fan progression.
George/Karla – Nice turns and tracks. Drops left hand, moves body. Move hip and close ankle instead of left hand. Skill = pressure
Jamie- Pause at top of turn into neutral.
Drill – One footed Hockey Stops to test himself.
Cert 2 skier
Tom/Chris – medium radius turns, Z shaped, narrow stance, perpendicular to skies, 50/50 ski to ski.
Drill Chris – Lift inside ski
Drill Tom – Javelin turns
Shawn/? – Upper/lower body separation, more femur rotation
Skill – Rotary
Drill – Pivot slips
English/Richard – Edging, second half slows bending, effective edging thru turn.
Wider and too narrow makes it hard. Edge change by inclination >> change to flex and extension.
Drill – tipping feet early in turn. Traverse on/off edges and then turn. Flex to roll edge in, extend to roll edge out.
Success = X tipping > hooking up early, bite early
Jamie – Pressure – super stiff and needs more pressure outside
Drill - Garlands, Thumpers, Reach and touch outside boot, increase range of motion
#4 – 5 min
My observations – Hop, Z, weight aft, and 50/50 or inside
Drill – Garlands
Jenn/Steve – redirecting prior to edging and pressure result in Z shaped turns.
Drill – Early edge pressure and pressure to outside ski.
Miller/Q – For/Aft pressure, hips behind heels, spray too far aft >> Z shape
Karla – Throwing tails >> More rounded by pressure outside and forward. Tails following tips – pressure. Abrupt up/rotary – pressure new ski.
Drill – Falling leaf – slow controlled pressure
Skill – Pressure
Jamie – Z & J aft, skid apex thru finish, pushing outside ski away. Balance weight over outside ski.
Drill – Pick up inside ski tail
#5
English – flex/extension, outside ski pressure, wider stance, loses pole plants.
Drill – Pivot slips, ROM, upper/lower body separation, pole extension downhill, wider stance
Summary;
It was interesting that the observations in most cases were similar with different que’s for different observers. The prescriptions were much more different all towards making similar changes. It would be interesting to vote on which prescriptions would make the most effective changes and which would make the client the most happy and wanting to return for another lesson (would these be the same or different?).
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