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Dec 31, 2011, 7:10:01 AM12/31/11
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As you can see here http://vvvv.org/forum/web-interface-2 I am looking
for the best solution to move a vvvv GUI into a web page, I think it
is a natural development for a modern GUI, very flexible.
vvvvjs seems to be the only active project which is building a bridge
between vvvv, still I am not sure if this is the right way to approach
a web side user inter action, since vvvvjs seems to be thought more
for render-in-web application. The renderer can of course be the GUI
itself but as with the Ex9 Renderer it is a bit of overhead drawing
into a dx9/canvas just for a some push buttons, file loaders, etc, all
things that should be done as web form in plain html/css.
So, what do you think? Should I stick to Phlegma' s web interface? Is
vvvvjs planning to do a more pure html approach to in-web GUI inter
action?
tx
Simone

nils buhlert

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Dec 31, 2011, 8:02:09 AM12/31/11
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Hi simone,

i will contact you in the new year. I'm off for some days.
happy new year.

nils

zauner

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Dec 31, 2011, 11:08:15 AM12/31/11
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Hi Simone,

what you want to achieve sounds like a typical use case for phlegma's
web interface: building an HTML user interface for a patch running on
a single machine.

VVVV.js' approach goes more towards building web applications/
visualizations, which run in browsers all over the world. The VVVV-to-
VVVV.js connection you might have seen in the preview video does not
allow you to send data from the web browser to the running VVVV
instance, it's only the other way around, and meant to provide a
development environment.

Yes, I think that's it :)

So I guess the line between VVVV.js and the web interface is drawn by
> As you can see herehttp://vvvv.org/forum/web-interface-2I am looking

Phleg Ma

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Jan 4, 2012, 6:42:20 AM1/4/12
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Hello Simone,

sorry for my late reply. 
The Webinterface thesis was the attemp to bring standard GUI Elements into a web page and insert the feedback back into the vvvv graph. 
Unfortunaly the developments stops. There where some reasons:

- The Development startet with the first version of the vvvv plugininterface. At the beginning it was very laborious writing application behind vvvv. And so the think grow in a unbalanced way. 

- Also the websocket stuff was not implementent in the browsers and there were just some dirty workarounds to procceed an realtime two way communication. which is not stable. 

- And at least in the last to years i had not enough time to push the project forward. I looked at the node 10 for some peoples who are interested in joining the development. But until now no participant. 

- I think the way i write html / css / js in the project is not the right way. i think there should be a code editor like the shader or c# one to be more flexible.

The sourcecode can be found under the my fork of the vvvv-sdk branch webinterface.

Feel free to join the development. 

If you need a compiled version of the stuff i think a could achieve at the end of the month. I'm right busy at the moment. 

I hope this helps a bit. 

best regard 
nils


simone

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Jan 4, 2012, 7:29:38 AM1/4/12
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Hi
I am very interested in all this, unfortunately my skills as developer
are limited to some html/php/css (I am also an experienced javascript
copynpaster and creator of the most messy and unreadable vvvv
patches).
That said I d like to get the an overall idea of the possibilities, I
got a vvvvjs environment working on my server just days after the
official release, for the moment my needs are just limited so some
push buttons and a file loader so the WebInterface would be just
right.
tx
Simone
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