Best VR lins in one place

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John Konnel

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Oct 16, 2015, 11:22:39 AM10/16/15
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Hey guys! I'm a big fan of VR and have an idea to gather all cool VR link in one place. Please, look thrue my list on VRFavs.com. Maybe I have missed some great sites and you could help me to complete it. 

Jan Ciger

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Oct 16, 2015, 12:00:28 PM10/16/15
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Hello,
Solid effort!

On the other hand, the value of similar lists is only as high as the
dedication of their curator to maintaining them. Are you planning to
keep the list up to date longer term?

FYI, your site is classed by the US censorware provider Fortinet as
"pornography" and blocked (our internet at work is connected through a
municipal connection and they don't seem to have an issue with sending
all their data to a US censorware firm ...). You may want to actually
send your site to them.

J.

J-Luc Dutheil

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Oct 16, 2015, 12:31:38 PM10/16/15
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Good Job!!

2015-10-16 17:22 GMT+02:00 John Konnel <konn...@gmail.com>:
Hey guys! I'm a big fan of VR and have an idea to gather all cool VR link in one place. Please, look thrue my list on VRFavs.com. Maybe I have missed some great sites and you could help me to complete it. 

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Waldir Pimenta

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Oct 17, 2015, 4:45:53 AM10/17/15
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On Friday, October 16, 2015 at 5:00:28 PM UTC+1, Jan Ciger wrote:
On the other hand, the value of similar lists is only as high as the
dedication of their curator to maintaining them. Are you planning to
keep the list up to date longer term?

I strongly suggest maintaining this as a Github Pages site, so people can collaborate through sending PRs and submitting issues.

Other than that, a few observations:
- the link "Curio" is duplicated
- how is the "Misc" section distinct from "Various"?
- "French VR" and "German VR" should be next to each other.
- "Dutch", "Spanish", "Japanese", "Polish", "Brazilian", "Korean", "Russian" and "Chinese" should be renamed "Dutch VR", and so on, for consistency (or the reverse, remove the VR from the German and French), and placed next to them.

In general, I think this could use a little meta-organization, that is: a few larger categories, e.g. "Regional links", with the relevant subcategories within them. And maybe make them expandable/collapsable to make navigation easier.

Jan Ciger

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Oct 17, 2015, 7:37:29 AM10/17/15
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On 17/10/15 10:45, Waldir Pimenta wrote:
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> I strongly suggest maintaining this as a Github Pages site, so
> people can collaborate through sending PRs and submitting issues.

Isn't that a bit of an overkill for maintaining a list of links?
Unless you want external contributors submit patches to the HTML code,
I doubt that this is really useful.

Also don't forget that the target group of that site are
non-developers too. Good luck explaining to e.g. a musician or
journalist what a "patch" is or that they have to make a "pull
request" instead of sending the link by e-mail or submitting a form.

A better solution would be a wiki with multiple curators if you want a
community-editable site.

J.
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Waldir Pimenta

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Oct 17, 2015, 9:33:46 AM10/17/15
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A wiki would work well, but it's harder to style for consumption and navigation. I think a github repo with the html/css/js code is a nice middle ground between a wiki and closed site curated by an individual or small team, considering that files can be edited directly in the browser, so there's no need to learn about what a patch is or how to work with git. Besides, the contact by email route isn't incompatible with such a workflow, and would work well alongside it.

That said, I do see the appeal of a wiki, and if it's based on mediawiki I'd be glad to help out with the styling / interaction part.

Ryan Pavlik

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Oct 23, 2015, 8:07:18 AM10/23/15
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Awesome c++ and similar sites (which are mainly link collections) are done as GitHub pages, so it's not a suggestion without precedent. Long term it's probably the easiest way to maintain, short of perhaps a wiki, since pull requests make it easy to be a "lazy maintainer".

Ryan


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Jan Ciger

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Oct 23, 2015, 8:32:47 AM10/23/15
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On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 2:07 PM, Ryan Pavlik <ryan....@gmail.com> wrote:
> Awesome c++ and similar sites (which are mainly link collections) are done
> as GitHub pages, so it's not a suggestion without precedent. Long term it's
> probably the easiest way to maintain, short of perhaps a wiki, since pull
> requests make it easy to be a "lazy maintainer".

You are forgetting the "C++ and similar sites" are targetting
developers by definition. I have said it once already, but let's
repeat it again: I am afraid that by making this so
"developer-centric" we put off a lot of people who have genuine
interest in the technology but don't know (and don't care to learn)
git. Lot of that material was more of interest to general public than
to developers.

I know a lot of otherwise brilliant people who would be running away
screaming in horror if they had to do anything considered
programming-related, even if it was using a tool like git and not
actually writing code. I think that in this specific case that would
be a net loss, because VR is a very multi-disciplinary field and the
input of the "non-technical" types is extremely important. I would
even dare to say that with any VR app the technology is starting to be
in the minority - design, psychology, perception, physiology,
neuroscience and similar fields are becoming more important than the
pure engineering. I feel that using an engineering tool like Github
for this will only act as a filter keeping these people and their
input out - a big mistake?

J.
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