Re: Issue 74 in void-impl: Revisiting voiD discovery

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Issue 74: Revisiting voiD discovery
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Comment #4 on issue 74 by rich...@cyganiak.de: Revisiting voiD discovery
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I think in detail we should do this, in order:

1. Remove Section 7.2 from the Guide

2. Explain in the beginning of Section 7 that previous versions of voiD had
a discovery mechanism based on robots.txt and Semantic Sitemaps, which was
deprecated because it was not widely adopted. Include a link to
http://vocab.deri.ie/void/guide/2009-01-29

3. Explain in the beginning of Section 7 that a new discovery mechanism
will be defined in the future in a separate document, linking to
http://vocab.deri.ie/void/autodiscovery

4. Create a one-sentence placeholder document at
http://vocab.deri.ie/void/autodiscovery

5. Get the *draft* of the Note published in W3C space

6. Write a submission to IETF for a name under .well-known.

7. Draft the autodiscovery document: Describe the .well-known mechanism,
and explain that IETF approval is pending.

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Comment #5 on issue 74 by Michael.Hausenblas: Revisiting voiD discovery
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Done step 1-3 in r172 however, vocab.deri.ie is down ATM, so need to wait
till this is sorted to do the rest

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Comment #6 on issue 74 by Michael.Hausenblas: Revisiting voiD discovery
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Update: vocab.deri.ie is back online, added
http://vocab.deri.ie/void/autodiscovery - please review content


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Issue 74: Revisiting voiD discovery
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This issue is no longer blocking issue 85.
See http://code.google.com/p/void-impl/issues/detail?id=85

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Comment #7 on issue 74 by Michael.Hausenblas: Revisiting voiD discovery
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Notes that the registry is located at
http://www.iana.org/assignments/well-known-uris/well-known-uris.xhtml

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Comment #8 on issue 74 by uoc...@googlemail.com: Revisiting voiD discovery
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hi - Have steps 5-7 and a submission to IETF taken place yet ? In the
interim, if Im creating a VoID document, should I continue with
sitemap/robots or use the .well-known mechanism ?

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Comment #9 on issue 74 by rich...@cyganiak.de: Revisiting voiD discovery
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Submission has not yet taken place. I expect that the entire registration
process will take at least another few weeks.

My recommendation: If you already have the robots.txt/sitemap thing in
place, then just leave it like that. Otherwise, publish the voiD file
without autodiscovery, and wait for the process to complete.

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Comment #10 on issue 74 by Michael.Hausenblas: Revisiting voiD discovery
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I've implemented all the changes as discussed during today's (2011-01-20)
voiD editor's call and now ready to submit to IETF.

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Comment #11 on issue 74 by Michael.Hausenblas: Revisiting voiD discovery
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The request has been sent [1] - review period ends in 14 days (that is, 3
Feb 2011).

[1] https://groups.google.com/d/topic/void-discussion/EnADedkV9kU/discussion

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Comment #12 on issue 74 by Michael.Hausenblas: Revisiting voiD discovery
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As per today's (2011-02-01) editors call we decided that we'll publish the
VoID guide as SWIG Note and then come back to IETF to register it (ETA:
mid/end of Feb 2011)

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Comment #13 on issue 74 by rich...@cyganiak.de: Revisiting voiD discovery
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I took an action to draft a replacement for the placeholder autodiscovery
section 7.2, along with clarifications regarding the relationship between
hostnames and datasets. Proposed text is below.


Replace Section 7.2, “Discovery with well-known URI”:

<p><a href="http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5785">RFC 5758</a> [<a
href="#ref-RFC5758">RFC5758</a>] defines a mechanism for reserving
“well-known” URIs on any web server.</p>

<p>The URI <code>/.well-known/void</code> on any web server is reserved for
a VoID description of any datasets hosted on that server. For example, on
the host <code>www.example.com</code>, this URI would be
<code>http://www.example.com/.well-known/void</code>.</p>

<p>This URI may be an HTTP redirect to the location of the actual VoID
file. The most appropriate HTTP redirect code is 302. Clients accessing
this well-known URI MUST handle HTTP redirects.</p>

<p>The VoID file accessible via the well-known URI should contain
descriptions of all RDF datasets hosted on the server. This includes any
datasets that have resolvable URIs, a SPARQL endpoint, a data dump, or any
other access mechanism (see <a href="#access">Section 3</a>) whose URI is
on the server's hostname.</p>

<p>Any VoID file accessible via the well-known URI should follow the
guidelines set out in <a
href="http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/interest/ED-void-20101216/#void-file">Section
6.2, <em>Publishing a voiD file alongside a dataset</em></a>.</p>



In addition, add this to the end of Section 6.2, “Publishing a voiD file
alongside a dataset”:

<p class="note">In cases where multiple different
<code>void:Dataset</code>s are published on the same website, the easiest
option is usually to create a single <code>void:DatasetDescription</code>
document that describes all of them.</p>

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Updates:
Status: Started

Comment #14 on issue 74 by Michael.Hausenblas: Revisiting voiD discovery
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Implemented changes re auto-discovery in VoID guide as of comment #13, see
r185

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Comment #15 on issue 74 by rich...@cyganiak.de: Revisiting voiD discovery
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FYI: I tweaked the formatting of the text in the IETF registration box in
r186.

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Updates:
Blockedon: 85

Comment #16 on issue 74 by Michael.Hausenblas: Revisiting voiD discovery
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Updates:
Status: Fixed

Comment #17 on issue 74 by Michael.Hausenblas: Revisiting voiD discovery
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Yey! IANA registration completed - see announcement at [1]. Guess it's time
to close the last v2 issue then ;) *party*

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Comment #18 on issue 74 by Michael.Hausenblas: Revisiting voiD discovery
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... and I sure did forget the pointer to the announcement ... here it comes:

https://groups.google.com/d/topic/void-discussion/HNhZeyhYVAs/discussion

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