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Mikael Pesonen

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Jun 8, 2015, 10:00:51 AM6/8/15
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I'm not sure where to as this but hope you can help setting up SKOSMOS? I have Jena+Fuseki running.


I am able to import rdf data from VocBench using the control panel's File Upload. But using command line

./s-put http://localhost:3030/ds/data default ../../skosmos/skosify/out.rdf

Jena says "204 No Content".



I am able to make the command line query as in example:

./s-query --service http://localhost:3030/ds/query 'SELECT * {?s ?p ?o}'

which dumps all the triplets.


How should I configure SKOSMOS? I have this snippet from example but this is not working:

:ysa a skosmos:Vocabulary, void:Dataset ;
    dc:title "Lingsoft Ontologia"@fi,
        "Lingsoft Ontology"@en ;
    dc:subject :cat_general ;
    void:uriSpace "http://www.lingsoft.fi/LingsoftOntology";
    skosmos:groupClass skos:Collection;
    skosmos:language "fi";
    skosmos:shortName "LSO";
  skosmos:feedbackRecipient "**" ;

    void:sparqlEndpoint <http://localhost:3030/sparql> .

Thanks!

Andrea Turbati

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First of all, you need to export the thesaurus from VocBench in SKOS (so by selecting to Remove the SKOS-XL labels and Reified defintions). Then in the command line do something like this:

./s-put http://localhost:3030/ds/data YOUR_GRAPH /home/artemide/skosmosTemp/out.rdf

where YOUR_GRAPH is the graph where you want to upload the thesaurus (I think it is better to specify always one, to avoid collision with the possible future thesauri)

Regarding the SKOSMOS configuration, I think you should refer to:
https://github.com/NatLibFi/Skosmos/wiki/Configuration
https://github.com/NatLibFi/Skosmos/wiki/Vocabularies

Just a small note on what you have written, what is the name of the file in which those configurations parameter where taken from? Did it contains also the definition for every prefix it is using (void, dc, skosmos)


Hope this information could be useful,

Cheers,

Andrea
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Mikael Pesonen

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I can store the data and retrieve it with both command line s-query


./s-query --service http://localhost:3030/ds/query 'SELECT * {?s ?p ?o}'

 and Fuseki control panel. That's only for default graph, have to learn how to use other graph. But after reading documentation I'm not able to connect SKOSMOS to that data. Can you help with that?

SKOSMOS config is in config.inc, starting with

define("VOCABULARIES_FILE", "vocabularies.ttl");
$LANGUAGES = array(
  'fi' => 'fi_FI.utf8',
  'sv' => 'sv_SE.utf8',
  'en' => 'en_GB.utf8'
);
define("DEFAULT_ENDPOINT", "http://localhost:3030/ds/sparql");

Entire vocabularies.ttl:

@prefix void: <http://rdfs.org/ns/void#> .
@prefix rdf: <http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#> .
@prefix rdfs: <http://www.w3.org/2000/01/rdf-schema#> .
@prefix owl: <http://www.w3.org/2002/07/owl#> .
@prefix xsd: <http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#> .
@prefix dc: <http://purl.org/dc/terms/> .
@prefix foaf: <http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/> .
@prefix wv: <http://vocab.org/waiver/terms/norms> .       
@prefix sd: <http://www.w3.org/ns/sparql-service-description#> .
@prefix skos: <http://www.w3.org/2004/02/skos/core#> .
@prefix skosmos: <http://purl.org/net/skosmos#> .
@prefix isothes: <http://purl.org/iso25964/skos-thes#> .
@prefix : <#> .


:lso a skosmos:Vocabulary, void:Dataset ;

    dc:title "Lingsoft Ontologia"@fi,
        "Lingsoft Ontology"@en ;
    dc:subject :cat_general ;

    skosmos:groupClass skos:Collection;
    skosmos:language "fi";
    skosmos:shortName "LSO";
  skosmos:feedbackRecipient "-" ;


    void:sparqlEndpoint <http://localhost:3030/sparql> .


uriSpace is the same as in the ontology created in VocBench.

Andrea Turbati

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I suggest to store the data in Fuseky in a specific graph, by doing:

./s-put http://localhost:3030/ds/data http://aims.fao.org/aos/agrovoc/
/home/artemide/skosmosTemp/agrovoc.ttl


then, in the command line s-query you can retrieve that data in the
following way (better to limit the number of results when doing some tests):

./s-query --service http://localhost:3030/ds/query 'SELECT * { GRAPH
<http://aims.fao.org/aos/agrovoc/> { ?s ?p ?o} } LIMIT 10'


Regarding the configuration files, my config.inc is similar to yours,
while my vocabularies.ttl is like this:
:agrovoc a skosmos:Vocabulary, void:Dataset ;
dc:title "AGROVOC"@en ;
dc:subject :cat_thesauri ;
void:uriSpace "http://aims.fao.org/aos/agrovoc/";
skosmos:shortName "AGROVOC";
skosmos:language "ar", "ru", "th", "hu", "pl", "tr", "ko",
"de", "lo", "it", "zh", "hi", "en", "es", "pt", "ja", "sk", "cs", "fr",
"fa";
skosmos:defaultLanguage "en";
skosmos:showTopConcepts true ;
skosmos:explicitLanguageTags true ;
skosmos:loadExternalResources false ;
void:sparqlEndpoint <http://localhost:3030/ds/sparql> ;
skosmos:sparqlGraph <http://aims.fao.org/aos/agrovoc/> .


I hope that this will help you

Cheers

Andrea

Mikael Pesonen

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Jun 10, 2015, 9:43:11 AM6/10/15
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Named graph works now! I managed to get a little further. If I try URL http://localhost/text/skosmos/en/ Skosmos says "

No vocabularies on the server!" but adding name to URL http://localhost/text/skosmos/Lingsoftontology/en/ Skosmos finds something. It says i have 78 concepts which sounds right. But term count is zero and lists on the left panel are empty.


Maybe I have done something wrong in Vocbench? Here's a snippet from RDF export if it tells anything. So there are just items starting with <rdf:Description...



<rdf:Description rdf:about="http://www.lingsoft.fi/LingsoftOntology/xl_en_2f80e4f4">
    <rdf:type rdf:resource="http://www.w3.org/2008/05/skos-xl#Label"/>
    <literalForm xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2008/05/skos-xl#" xml:lang="en">Divisions</literalForm>
    <hasStatus xmlns="http://art.uniroma2.it/ontologies/vocbench#">Published</hasStatus>
    <created xmlns="http://purl.org/dc/terms/" rdf:datatype="xsd:http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#dateTime">2015-05-21T10:53:13Z</created>
    <modified xmlns="http://purl.org/dc/terms/" rdf:datatype="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#dateTime">2015-05-21T13:54:39Z</modified>
</rdf:Description>


<rdf:Description rdf:about="http://www.lingsoft.fi/LingsoftOntology/xl_en_7879270d">
    <rdf:type rdf:resource="http://www.w3.org/2008/05/skos-xl#Label"/>
    <literalForm xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2008/05/skos-xl#" xml:lang="en">Agents</literalForm>
    <hasStatus xmlns="http://art.uniroma2.it/ontologies/vocbench#">Published</hasStatus>
    <created xmlns="http://purl.org/dc/terms/" rdf:datatype="xsd:http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#dateTime">2015-05-20T13:26:12Z</created>
    <modified xmlns="http://purl.org/dc/terms/" rdf:datatype="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#dateTime">2015-05-20T16:33:33Z</modified>
</rdf:Description>

Armando Stellato

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Jun 10, 2015, 11:56:58 AM6/10/15
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Hi Mikael,

 

did you export your vocabulary as plain SKOS, as we suggested?

 

This is probably the reason. If you exported it as is (SKOS-XL) then since SKOSMOS is only compliant with skos core labels, this means it won’t find them.

Previously we used an utility from the OWLART library, to be run offline, but if you have VB2.3, the utility is embedded in the UI and you just need to select SKOS as the export format.

 

Good, you are almost there ;)

 

Cheers,

 

Armando

 

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Yes, I made sure it's SKOS not SKOS-XL. I also tried with and without Skosify validation but it had no effect. The problem must be that there are no concepts in the export, like

<skos:Concept rdf:about="http://www.yso.fi/onto/tero/p10596">


But very close yes :)

Armando Stellato

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Dear Mikael,

 

sorry, we just discovered that, due to a bug, the SKOS export is not working properly (no skos core label produced, still skosxl labels in the output).

 

You may however still use our conversion utility from owlart. See: http://art.uniroma2.it/owlart/documentation/utilities.jsf

 

In the section: SKOSXL to SKOS 

 

You don’t need any programming skill, it is available as a command line tool

 

Sorry for the inconvenience,

 

Armando

 

 

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Okay now I've got all the terms listed in Alphabetical list in Skosmos :).

Just a tiny issue, the Hierarchy view does not show the terms until they are browsed in Alphabetical list. So at start Hierarchy is empty and as I view info for a term it shows up in Hierarchy list one by one. So how could the hierarchy view be fully populated automatically? Is that related to RDF formatting of VocBench export or is it a config parameter in Skosmos?

Also Group view is empty...

Br

Andrea Turbati

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Dear Mikael,
I'm sorry that I'm not able to help you regarding this issue of Skosmos, since I did not contribute in the development of the code behind Skosmos, so I do not know how the parameters:
skosmos:showTopConcepts true ;
skosmos:groupClass isothes:ConceptGroup ;
are implemented.

Cheers,

Andrea

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Armando Stellato

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Jun 12, 2015, 1:30:32 PM6/12/15
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Hi Mikael,

 

yes, plus, to avoid misunderstanding, Osma Suominen, the author of SKOSMOS, is not working in our group, we just replied to you to some extent on the basis of our personal knowledge with that system. You can try sending an email him and you will get all the details you need.

 

Cheers,

 

Armando

 

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Mikael Pesonen

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Okay, I'll contact him. There is still one issue with double entries:
 I have created a concept which is a person name. Then I added foaf:firstName and Surname as attributes. In export there are two entries where the second one has the foaf data and references the first entry which has the label

 <rdf:Description rdf:about="http://www.lingsoft.fi/LingsoftOntology/xl_en_82a59780">

    <rdf:type rdf:resource="http://www.w3.org/2008/05/skos-xl#Label"/>
    <literalForm xml:lang="en">Juhani Reiman</literalForm>
    <dct:created rdf:datatype="xsd:http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#dateTime">2015-05-20T13:59:52Z</dct:created>
    <default1:hasStatus>Published</default1:hasStatus>
    <dct:modified rdf:datatype="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#dateTime">2015-05-20T17:08:45+00:00</dct:modified>
  </rdf:Description>


 <rdf:Description rdf:about="http://www.lingsoft.fi/LingsoftOntology/c_d3f38624">
    <prefLabel rdf:resource="http://www.lingsoft.fi/LingsoftOntology/xl_en_82a59780"/>
    <default8:headOf rdf:resource="http://www.lingsoft.fi/LingsoftOntology/c_7cef484f"/>
    <skos:inScheme rdf:resource="http://www.lingsoft.fi/LingsoftOntology/"/>
    <rdf:type rdf:resource="http://www.w3.org/2004/02/skos/core#Concept"/>
    <skos:broader rdf:resource="http://www.lingsoft.fi/LingsoftOntology/c_200d313c"/>
    <default8:holds rdf:resource="http://www.lingsoft.fi/LingsoftOntology/c_eaabe9d2"/>
    <default5:givenName rdf:datatype="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#string">Juhani</default5:givenName>
    <default5:lastName rdf:datatype="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#string">Reiman</default5:lastName>
    <dct:modified rdf:datatype="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#dateTime">2015-05-21T17:37:09+00:00</dct:modified>
    <dct:created rdf:datatype="xsd:http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#dateTime">2015-05-20T13:59:51Z</dct:created>
    <default5:gender rdf:datatype="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#string">male</default5:gender>
    <default8:basedAt rdf:resource="http://www.lingsoft.fi/LingsoftOntology/c_a3eebce4"/>
    <skos:broader rdf:resource="http://www.lingsoft.fi/LingsoftOntology/c_7d3bdb93"/>
    <default1:hasStatus>Published</default1:hasStatus>
    <prefLabel rdf:resource="http://www.lingsoft.fi/LingsoftOntology/xl_fi_8faaad4f"/>
  </rdf:Description>

The problem is that Skomos will display two entries in the list. Is there something i can do in VocBench to fix that behaviour?

Armando Stellato

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Dear Mikael,

 

that’s pretty normal, this is the RDFXML standard. The xlabel is a separated entity with a given URI, so it is provided as a separate description. The serialization is not under our control as we use third party libraries for that (in particular it has been managed by the connected Sesame middleware) but it is exactly how it should behave. It is strange that skosmos takes the SKOSXL label as an entry. In any case, the thing would be sorted out if you had SKOS export.

If you used the utilities that I mentioned in my previous email, you could make the skosxl labels become skos core ones.

 

Cheers,

 

Armando

 

 

 

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Mikael Pesonen

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I have been using owlart skosxl -> skos converter but haven't tried other parameters except <xLabelsAsURIs> which didn't affect. Would you happen to know if there are some specific parameters in owlart converter's config file for that?

Br
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Hi Mikael,

 

in your file I don’t see the plain skos core label.

 

xLabelsAsURIs is a parameter of the skos2skosxl utility, not of the skosxl2skos.

 

Did you follow this synopsis?

 

it.uniroma2.art.owlart.utilities.transform.SKOSXL2SKOSConverter <config> <inputfilename> <outputfilename>

 

please check that it is SKOSXL2SKOS and not the contrary.

 

 

Cheers,

 

Armando

 

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I might have skipped that step, so here's the correct ones (VocBench -> skosxl2skos.bat -> skosify -> Jena). Still Skosmos displays two entries...


<rdf:Description rdf:about="http://www.lingsoft.fi/LingsoftOntology/xl_en_82a59780">
    <rdf:type rdf:resource="http://www.w3.org/2008/05/skos-xl#Label"/>
    <skosxl:literalForm xml:lang="en">Juhani Reiman</skosxl:literalForm>

    <hasStatus xmlns="http://art.uniroma2.it/ontologies/vocbench#">Published</hasStatus>
    <dct:created rdf:datatype="xsd:http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#dateTime">2015-05-20T13:59:52Z</dct:created>
    <dct:modified rdf:datatype="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#dateTime">2015-05-20T17:08:45Z</dct:modified>

</rdf:Description>

<rdf:Description rdf:about="http://www.lingsoft.fi/LingsoftOntology/c_d3f38624">
    <rdf:type rdf:resource="http://www.w3.org/2004/02/skos/core#Concept"/>
    <skos:inScheme rdf:resource="http://www.lingsoft.fi/LingsoftOntology/"/>
    <skos:broader rdf:resource="http://www.lingsoft.fi/LingsoftOntology/c_200d313c"/>
    <skos:broader rdf:resource="http://www.lingsoft.fi/LingsoftOntology/c_7d3bdb93"/>
    <skos:prefLabel xml:lang="en">Juhani Reiman</skos:prefLabel>
    <skosxl:prefLabel rdf:resource="http://www.lingsoft.fi/LingsoftOntology/xl_en_82a59780"/>
    <skos:prefLabel xml:lang="fi">Juhani Reiman</skos:prefLabel>
    <skosxl:prefLabel rdf:resource="http://www.lingsoft.fi/LingsoftOntology/xl_fi_8faaad4f"/>

    <hasStatus xmlns="http://art.uniroma2.it/ontologies/vocbench#">Published</hasStatus>
    <dct:created rdf:datatype="xsd:http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#dateTime">2015-05-20T13:59:51Z</dct:created>
    <dct:modified rdf:datatype="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#dateTime">2015-05-21T17:37:09Z</dct:modified>
    <holds xmlns="http://www.w3.org/ns/org#" rdf:resource="http://www.lingsoft.fi/LingsoftOntology/c_eaabe9d2"/>
    <headOf xmlns="http://www.w3.org/ns/org#" rdf:resource="http://www.lingsoft.fi/LingsoftOntology/c_7cef484f"/>
    <basedAt xmlns="http://www.w3.org/ns/org#" rdf:resource="http://www.lingsoft.fi/LingsoftOntology/c_a3eebce4"/>
    <gender xmlns="http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/" rdf:datatype="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#string">male</gender>
    <lastName xmlns="http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/" rdf:datatype="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#string">Reiman</lastName>
    <givenName xmlns="http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/" rdf:datatype="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#string">Juhani</givenName>
</rdf:Description>

So now there are clearly two entries.

Br



maanantai 15. kesäkuuta 2015 17.30.08 UTC+3 Armando Stellato kirjoitti:

Hi Mikael,

 

in your file I don’t see the plain skos core label.

Armando Stellato

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Hi Mikael,

 

problem solved.

By first, now your code is better, because you ran the right tool and now have the SKOS core labels (e.g. see the row:

    <skos:prefLabel xml:lang="en">Juhani Reiman</skos:prefLabel>

). So at least now you should be able to see the labels for the concepts in SKOSMOS.

 

Now, concerning the SKOS-XL labels that are still there:

I looked back into the code and saw that there’s an additional optional parameter (last one), which you can pass as “true” or “false”. If “true”, the SKOSXL labels will be persisted (that is, you will have both SKOSXL and SKOS labels). This is a common choice for people willing to publish SKOSXL but also keep a redundant copy in SKOS so that any SKOS-only compliant tool can read them.

When looking into the code, I saw however that that parameter, when not passed, defaults to false. So then I downloaded the distribution I packaged on April, and found that in the batch file I provided in there, the parameter is passed with true.

Very easy thus: just change it to false and the SKOSXL labels will be removed.

 

One thing: the fact that SKOSMOS is indexing the xlabels as if they were concepts is a bug in SKOSMOS, SKOSMOS works with SKOS only, but then it should ignore the SKOSXL labels, in any case not report them as further entities.

You might want to report this to Osma when you ask him other things.

 

Hope now it works,

 

Cheers,

 

Armando

 

 

 

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I have now clean data is Skosmos :) Thank you very much for all the help!

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Good evening,
was wondering if there was any documentation in regards to the bridge between Fuseki & Vocbench  2.2.1?
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Dear Phil,

 

Well, specifically, there is no bridge if not for the use of RDF standards.

 

That is, you can export data from VB2.x and reload it in Fuseki for being used by SKOSMOS.

 

SKOSMOS now supports SKOSXL natively, so there should be no need to convert anything for it

 

Kind Regards,

 

Armando

 

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Hi all,

There is a tutorial for setting up Skosmos, including Fuseki and loading
data:

https://github.com/NatLibFi/Skosmos/wiki/InstallTutorial

Like Armando said Skosmos nowadays supports SKOS-XL, however it still
requires labels to be present also using the SKOS Core properties
(skos:prefLabel etc). I think VocBench 3 can supply both?

-Osma

Armando Stellato kirjoitti 07.03.2018 klo 23:12:
> Dear Phil,
>
> Well, specifically, there is no bridge if not for the use of RDF standards.
>
> That is, you can export data from VB2.x and reload it in Fuseki for
> being used by SKOSMOS.
>
> SKOSMOS now supports SKOSXL natively, so there should be no need to
> convert anything for it
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Armando
>
> *From:*vocben...@googlegroups.com <vocben...@googlegroups.com>
> *On Behalf Of *PBS Stac
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 7, 2018 7:52 PM
> *To:* vocbench-user <vocben...@googlegroups.com>
> *Subject:* [vocbench-user] Re: SKOSMOS & Jena
>
> Good evening,
>
> was wondering if there was any documentation in regards to the bridge
> between Fuseki & Vocbench  2.2.1?
>
> Phil
>
> On Monday, June 8, 2015 at 3:00:51 PM UTC+1, Mikael Pesonen wrote:
>
>
> I'm not sure where to as this but hope you can help setting up
> SKOSMOS? I have Jena+Fuseki running.
>
>
> I am able to import rdf data from VocBench using the control panel's
> File Upload. But using command line
>
> ./s-put http://localhost:3030/ds/data default
> ../../skosmos/skosify/out.rdf
>
> Jena says "204 No Content".
>
>
>
> I am able to make the command line query as in example:
>
> ./s-query --service http://localhost:3030/ds/query 'SELECT * {?s ?p ?o}'
>
> which dumps all the triplets.
>
>
> How should I configure SKOSMOS? I have this snippet from example but
> this is not working:
>
> :ysa a skosmos:Vocabulary, void:Dataset ;
>     dc:title "Lingsoft Ontologia"@fi,
>         "Lingsoft Ontology"@en ;
>     dc:subject :cat_general ;
>     void:uriSpace "http://www.lingsoft.fi/LingsoftOntology
> <https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.lingsoft.fi%2FLingsoftOntology&data=02%7C01%7C%7C6ce1662656594c0be1bc08d5845c9f0e%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636560455688645778&sdata=WNunsZg1f1umPzWnVo%2BHDVxu4Kxrco97QLfTGEOnkmk%3D&reserved=0>";
>     skosmos:groupClass skos:Collection;
>     skosmos:language "fi";
>     skosmos:shortName "LSO";
>   skosmos:feedbackRecipient "**" ;
>
>     void:sparqlEndpoint <http://localhost:3030/sparql> .
>
> Thanks!
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Dear Osma,

In VB3 now you can decide which lexicalization model to use (rdfs:labels, skos or skosxl..ontolex coming...)

While the system does not prevent anybody to build redundant labels, by default (I mean, with facilitated editing capabilities for lexicalizations) it supports only one of these models (redundancy is not good when editing).

Concerning the need for SKOSMOS to have also skos core labels, then there are two scenarios:

* if the model of the project is SKOS, there's nothing to do when exporting data for SKOSMOS

* if the model is SKOSXL, then for the export (thus feeding content to SKOSMOS), it is possible to apply transformations to it:
http://vocbench.uniroma2.it/doc/user/global_data_management.jsf#export_data

Specifically, the SKOSXLDereificationExportFilter can:

* flatten all SKOSXL labels to SKOS
* with a configuration parameter, it is possible to decide if keeping the SKOSXL content or to remove it

Cheers,

Armando




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> Subject: Re: [vocbench-user] Re: SKOSMOS & Jena
>
> Hi all,
>
> There is a tutorial for setting up Skosmos, including Fuseki and loading
> data:
>
> https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.co
> m%2FNatLibFi%2FSkosmos%2Fwiki%2FInstallTutorial&data=02%7C01%7C%7C9
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> Like Armando said Skosmos nowadays supports SKOS-XL, however it still
> requires labels to be present also using the SKOS Core properties (skos:prefLabel
> etc). I think VocBench 3 can supply both?
>
> -Osma
>
> Armando Stellato kirjoitti 07.03.2018 klo 23:12:
> > Dear Phil,
> >
> > Well, specifically, there is no bridge if not for the use of RDF standards.
> >
> > That is, you can export data from VB2.x and reload it in Fuseki for
> > being used by SKOSMOS.
> >
> > SKOSMOS now supports SKOSXL natively, so there should be no need to
> > convert anything for it
> >
> > Kind Regards,
> >
> > Armando
> >
> > *From:*vocben...@googlegroups.com <vocbench-
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> >     skosmos:language "fi";
> >     skosmos:shortName "LSO";
> >   skosmos:feedbackRecipient "**" ;
> >
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Armando,
thanks for your note, for the simple people like myself (just getting started in the linked data world) 
would explain the steps we need to take to 'http://vocbench.uniroma2.it/doc/user/global_data_management.jsf#export_data ' (which part?)
of if you have time to make a short video would very helpful.. 
As I am trying understand this 'idea' of  transformations.
for this concept
<skos:definition>
<rdfs:Resource rdf:about="http://buildvoc.co.uk#def_0b67e19b">
<rdf:value xml:lang="en">There are a host of companies and individuals blogging about BIM and, as such, of the moment posts passing comment on the latest happenings or reviews of events and expos are in plentiful supply allowing you curate your own mix of wisdom and opinion.With so many blogs to choose from its hard to single out just a few, but the following companies and individuals are well worth a look and should point you towards othersNBSs Director of Design and Innovation Stephen Hamil is a regular poster to his Construction Code blog externallinkand its sure to feature on many peoples bookmarks. Stephen posts concise summaries from a range of BIM events and conferences and some great step-by-step guides to features and functions within a range of NBS services. Casey Rutland, an architect and associate director at Arup, presents a range of useful material on The CASE for BIM externallink, while Anthony McPhee offers advice on Practical BIM externallink.Meanwhile, the BIM Blog externallinkrun by UK architectural practice Bond Bryan offers a host of opinion pieces, tips and examples of Open BIM, as well as useful content on acronyms, file formats and a BIM jargon buster.
</rdf:value>
<dct:created rdf:datatype="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#dateTime">2018-03-09T21:17:48Z</dct:created>
</rdfs:Resource>
</skos:definition>
<skos:inScheme rdf:resource="http://buildvoc.co.uk"/>
<skos:note rdf:resource="http://buildvoc.co.uk#def_0b67e19b"/>
<skos:semanticRelation>
<skos:Concept rdf:about="http://buildvoc.co.uk#c_fb62c549">
<skosxl:prefLabel>
<rdf:Description rdf:about="http://buildvoc.co.uk#xl_en_0b835b90">
<skosxl:literalForm xml:lang="en">Resources</skosxl:literalForm>
</rdf:Description>
</skosxl:prefLabel>
</skos:Concept>
</skos:semanticRelation>
<skos:broader rdf:resource="http://buildvoc.co.uk#c_fb62c549"/>
<skos:broaderTransitive rdf:resource="http://buildvoc.co.uk#c_fb62c549"/>
<skosxl:prefLabel>
<rdfs:Resource rdf:about="http://buildvoc.co.uk#xl_en_b005d66b">
<rdf:type rdf:resource="http://www.w3.org/2008/05/skos-xl#Label"/>
<rdf:type rdf:nodeID="node1c868rnkpx7"/>
<skosxl:literalForm xml:lang="en">Blog posts</skosxl:literalForm>
<hasStatus xmlns="http://art.uniroma2.it/ontologies/vocbench#">Proposed</hasStatus>
<dct:created rdf:datatype="xsd:http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#dateTime">2018-03-09T21:17:15Z</dct:created>
<dct:modified rdf:datatype="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#dateTime">2018-03-09T21:17:15Z</dct:modified>
</rdfs:Resource>
</skosxl:prefLabel>
<hasStatus xmlns="http://art.uniroma2.it/ontologies/vocbench#">Proposed</hasStatus>
<dct:created rdf:datatype="xsd:http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#dateTime">2018-03-09T21:17:14Z</dct:created>
<dct:modified rdf:datatype="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#dateTime">2018-03-09T21:17:48Z</dct:modified>
</rdfs:Resource>

</rdf:RDF>


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Armando Stellato

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Mar 9, 2018, 7:12:16 PM3/9/18
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Dear Phil,

 

I followed up on Osma’s reply, as he was asking about VB3, while you were mentioning to be using VB 2.2.1.

 

So, in VB2.x, if you want to export to plain SKOS, you just select the following menu options: “Global data management” --> export

 

Then you will see the following page, where you can select the export format (see the dropdown menu). You can thus select SKOS in order to flatten all your SKOSXL labels to SKOS ones. SKOSMOS will then be able to read the exported file.

 

 

 

In VB3 (figure below) the thing is very simple as well. As in VB2.x, select “Global Data Management” --> Export

 

Then, from the menu here below “export filters”, click on the + sign and select the XLabelDereification… there’s no need to configure anything else. Just click on submit and you will get an export containing both SKOSXL and SKOS labels. This kind of content will be as Osma requested for SKOSMOS (that is, SKOSMOS can read SKOSXL, but it needs to have also plain SKOS labels in it).

 

 

 

Kind Regards,

 

Armando

 

 

 


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Phil S

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Mar 10, 2018, 1:52:44 AM3/10/18
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Armando,
apologies for this question, as my children would call me a 'newbee' 
how do I turn on 'Global data management' is it in the users configuration?
many thanks..
Phil


On Monday, June 8, 2015 at 3:00:51 PM UTC+1, Mikael Pesonen wrote:

Armando Stellato

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Mar 10, 2018, 5:01:24 AM3/10/18
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Dear Phil,

 

Just look at the screenshots (one for VB2 and on for VB3) I put in my last email. It is visible on both of them. Top-center for VB2, Top-right for VB3 (the menu is expanded in the screenshot)

 

Cheers,


Armando

 

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Armando,

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Phil S

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Mar 11, 2018, 4:19:54 AM3/11/18
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Turbati,
many thanks for the screen shots,that worked great!! 
also followed the tutorial 'Test Drive: creating projects and loading data'!! http://vocbench.uniroma2.it/doc/user/test_drive.jsf
would recommend these for anyone just starting out in VocBench (with screen shots) 
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