RE: [vocbench-user] trouble with moving concept (was Re: Trouble with user management)

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Armando Stellato

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Jan 11, 2017, 5:21:12 AM1/11/17

to Mikael Pesonen, vocbench-user

Dear Mikael,

I tried to recreate the error but didn’t succeed, I’m able to move concepts. Have you tried on a plain new concept?

Anyway, just one suggestion that is useful in any case and might resolve your issue sideways: we discourage (if not for playing with toy examples and testing VB) to use the embedded sesame triplestore. Better to connect to a separate triplestore server, a Sesame one or, even better, a GraphDB one (http://ontotext.com/products/graphdb/). GraphDB is also available for free (the free version is limited on the number of parallel queries, but it is still much more performant than a plain Sesame server).

I’ve still not tested VB2.x on GraphDB 8 (which is thought for RDF4J, the new incarnation of the Sesame API, while the VB2 client uses Sesame 2.7.x), but I guess that, for the way we use the client in VB2, it should be compatible also with it. Otherwise, download the previous version: GraphDB 7.

If you go instead for a plain sesame server, go for Sesame 2.7.x

Cheers,

Armando

From: vocben...@googlegroups.com [mailto:vocben...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mikael Pesonen
Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2016 10:30 AM
To: vocbench-user <vocben...@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: [vocbench-user] Re: Trouble with user management

Hi,

I chose in memory/persistent.

torstai 15. joulukuuta 2016 17.12.45 UTC+2 turbati kirjoitti:

Dear Mikael,
when you created the project, which value did you selected in "Mode:
connection/technology choice. This depends on the chosen triple store."?
In memory/persistent, in memory/no persistent, native store/pesistent,
remote access. In case of this last value, what type of triple are you
connecting to?

Il 15/12/2016 13:15, Mikael Pesonen ha scritto:
>
> I'm not sure what that means. I have semantic turkey running - that
> came with Vocbench package.
>
> Mikael
>
>
> On 15.12.2016 12:56, Armando Stellato wrote:
>> Dear Mikael,
>>
>> one thing missing: Is your triple store the embedded sesame, or a
>> remote connection to an external triple store (and in case, which
>> one? Sesame, GraphDB, other?).
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Mikael Pesonen [mailto:mikael....@lingsoft.fi]
>>> Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2016 11:09 AM
>>> To: Armando Stellato <stel...@uniroma2.it>; 'vocbench-user' <vocbench-
>>> us...@googlegroups.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [vocbench-user] Re: Trouble with user management
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Below is the config. We have ~100 concepts in a hierarchy made with the
>>> default Administrator user account.
>>>
>>> Br,
>>> Mikael
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> # CONFIGURATION FILE
>>>
>>>
>>> # --- DB PROPERTIES ---
>>> # Database Connection URL: modify according to your DB installation
>>> DB.CONNECTIONURL =
>>> jdbc:mysql://localhost:3306/administrator_version20?createDatabaseIfNotE
>>>
>>> xist=true&requireSSL=false&useUnicode=true&characterEncoding=utf-8
>>> # Database Password
>>> DB.PASSWORD = xxx
>>> # Database Username
>>> DB.USERNAME = root
>>> ...
>>>
>>> # --- MODEL PROPERTIES ---
>>> # Model Manager classname: don't modify this unless you really know
>>> what
>>> you are doing :-) MODEL.CLASS =
>>> org.fao.aoscs.model.semanticturkey.STManager
>>>
>>> # --- PERMISSION PROPERTIES ---
>>> # Set true/false to enable/disable permission checks based on user
>>> groups
>>> (Default: true) PERMISSION.CHECK = true # Set true/false to
>>> enable/disable
>>> buttons in case of permission allowed/restricted (Default: true)
>>> PERMISSION.DISABLE = true # Set true/false to show/hide button in
>>> case of
>>> permission allowed/restricted (Default: false) PERMISSION.HIDE =
>>> false # Set
>>> true/false to allow/restrict actions based on user permission langauge
>>> (Default: true) PERMISSION.LANGUAGECHECK = true
>>>
>>> # --- SEARCH PROPERTIES ---
>>> # Amount of time (in milliseconds) search waits for user to input
>>> another
>>> character before sending request SEARCH.TIMEOUT = 300
>>>
>>> # --- SETTINGS PROPERTIES ---
>>> # Set this value with custom datatype to set skos:notation property
>>> for every
>>> term instance created [e.g. For AGROVOC ->
>>> http://aims.fao.org/aos/agrovoc/AgrovocCode]
>>> SETTINGS.CODETYPE =
>>> # No. of Concepts in navigation history list
>>> SETTINGS.CONCEPTNAVIGATIONHISTORY.MAXSIZE = 25 # CUSTOM
>>> DATATYPE (For multiple datatype use semicolon ';' as a
>>> separator) [e.g. For AGROVOC ->
>>> http://aims.fao.org/aos/agrovoc/AgrovocCode]
>>> SETTINGS.CUSTOMDATATYPE =
>>> # Set to true to show exception details in case of system malfunctions
>>> SETTINGS.EXCEPTION.DETAILS.SHOW = true # Any project having its
>>> namespace in this list will mandatorily ask for Source/Link values
>>> in its
>>> skos:definitions (For multiple namespaces use semicolon ';' as a
>>> separator)
>>> SETTINGS.MANDATORY.DEFINITION.NAMESPACES =
>>> http://aims.fao.org/aos/agrovoc/ # Set this property to force zipped
>>> download to be separated into chuck of ZIP.SIZE bytes
>>> SETTINGS.ZIP.SIZE =
>>> 5242880
>>>
>>> # --- VB PROPERTIES ---
>>> # Mode can be either DEV/PRO/SANDBOX (DEV: Development; PRO:
>>> Production;
>>> SANDBOX: Sandbox version)
>>> VB.MODE = DEV
>>> # Specify VocBench version
>>> VB.ONTOLOGY.VERSION = 2.0
>>>
>>> # --- VISITOR PROPERTIES ---
>>> # Visitor's group id
>>> VISITOR.GROUPID = 12
>>> # Visitor's group name
>>> VISITOR.GROUPNAME = Visitor
>>> # Visitor's account password
>>> VISITOR.GUESTPASSWORD = xxx
>>> # Visitor's account username
>>> VISITOR.GUESTUSERNAME = Guest
>>> # Set to true to enable visitor only mode (Default: false)
>>> VISITOR.ISVISITOR =
>>> false # Set to true to enable guest login which doesn't require any
>>> user
>>> credentials (Default: false) VISITOR.SHOWGUESTLOGIN = false
>>>
>>> On 15.12.2016 12:01, Armando Stellato wrote:
>>>> Dear Mikael,
>>>>
>>>> Let's check it :-)
>>>> Could you give us in the meanwhile some info about your conf?
>>>> Is your triple store the embedded sesame, or a remote connection to an
>>> external triple store (and in case, which one? Sesame, GraphDB,
>>> other?).
>>>> Did you load any data, or just started a project from scratch?
>>>> In the first case, how big is the data you loaded?
>>>>
>>>> Sorry for all these questions, but we've feedback by other users who
>>> already adopted it with no issue, so we need to be able to replicate
>>> your
>>> environment.
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> Armando
>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: vocben...@googlegroups.com [mailto:vocbench-
>>>>> us...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mikael Pesonen
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2016 10:52 AM
>>>>> To: Armando Stellato <stel...@uniroma2.it>; 'vocbench-user'
>>>>> <vocbench- us...@googlegroups.com>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [vocbench-user] Re: Trouble with user management
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi again!
>>>>>
>>>>> Almost got this working. We have added user to project and user group
>>>>> is "Ontolody editors" in project user settings. But when trying to
>>>>> move a concept under another concept in hierarchy, VocBench stays in
>>>>> loading state forever. When refreshed, concept is still in old place.
>>>>>
>>>>> Br,
>>>>> Mikael
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 14.12.2016 17:16, Armando Stellato wrote:
>>>>>> Hi Mikael,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> unfortunately the default in google groups is to not download emails
>>>>>> automatically, to avoid creation of groups intended for
>>>>>> spamming...and the admin cannot change this default, only the user
>>>>>> when they are subscribing :-(
>>>>>>
>>>>>> you can set your preferences here:
>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/vocbench-user/join
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Armando
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: Mikael Pesonen [mailto:mikael....@lingsoft.fi]
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2016 3:55 PM
>>>>>>> To: Armando Stellato <stel...@uniroma2.it>; 'vocbench-user'
>>>>>>> <vocbench- us...@googlegroups.com>
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [vocbench-user] Re: Trouble with user management
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> oh, didn't realize to check from forum... Thank you, now I'm able
>>>>>>> to do the configs.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Br,
>>>>>>> Mikael
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 14.12.2016 15:57, Armando Stellato wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi Mikael,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Andrea replied to you here:
>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/vocbench-
>>>>>>> user/iyNzknkHqaU/ZwscMwuiBwAJ
>>>>>>>> The general idea which has been introduced in VB2.4 (see
>>>>>>> https://bitbucket.org/art-
>>>>>>>
>>> uniroma2/vocbench/src/016f63e6f3888f2a820d7e4fa578d1f1d9d2421d/Chan
>>>>>>> geLog.txt , first entries of changelog for 2.4) is that each user
>>>>>>> is able to declare their capabilities, and their interest in
>>>>>>> certain projects. This is the first step that Andrea mentioned,
>>>>>>> which is normally performed by the user when they ask to be
>>>>>>> registered to VocBench, but also be performed by the Administrator.
>>>>>>> For instance, "assignable" user group means, "declared language
>>> proficiencies"
>>>>>>> etc... are a sort of profile of the user. This means that the user
>>>>>>> might declare themselves (for instance) as a "terminologist" , and
>>>>>>> thus
>>>>> include the "Term Editor" capability to their "assignable user
>>>>> groups".
>>>>>>> They can also mention to be proficient in some languages. If the
>>>>>>> Administrator creates a user, then it will be possible for the
>>>>>>> admin to define this profile.
>>>>>>>> The above profile is a template that can be used when assigning
>>>>>>>> users to
>>>>>>> project and defining their capabilities locally to the given
>>>>>>> project.
>>>>>>>> For instance, user "userA" has registered to VocBench and provided
>>>>>>>> (or,
>>>>>>> sameway, thw admin created userA and assigned to him the following
>>>>>>> capabilities) german and English as "declared language
>>>>>>> proficiencies"
>>>>>>> and added "term editors" in the "assignable user roles".
>>>>>>>> Then, the admin takes opens project "projectFoo" (from
>>>>>>>> "Administration--
>>>>>>>> Projects") and assign userA to it.
>>>>>>>> userA will have no role nor language assigned to the project. It
>>>>>>>> is the
>>>>>>> administrator that has to assign, specifically for projectFoo, the
>>>>>>> covered languages and roles to userA. The admin, when adding user
>>>>>>> groups and languages, may tick the "show only requested" in order
>>>>>>> filter only those assignable groups/languages declared in the
>>>>>>> profile of
>>>>> userA.
>>>>>>>> For instance, while userA might be proficient in English and
>>>>>>>> German, the
>>>>>>> admin might decide that, since there is already a very qualified
>>>>>>> editor for English, he prefers to assign only german to userA, in
>>>>>>> the specific projectFoo project.
>>>>>>>> Hope it helps..or pls let us know if still something has been left
>>>>>>>> out
>>>>>>>> :-)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Armando
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>> From: vocben...@googlegroups.com [mailto:vocbench-
>>>>>>>>> us...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mikael Pesonen
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2016 1:42 PM
>>>>>>>>> To: vocbench-user <vocben...@googlegroups.com>
>>>>>>>>> Subject: [vocbench-user] Re: Trouble with user management
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Any idea what could be wrong?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Mikael
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 9.12.2016 15:10, Mikael Pesonen wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm having trouble adding users to VocBench (2.4.2 and 2.4.3).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I have been using default administrator account so far and
>>>>>>>>>> now added new user. In assignable user groups I added
>>>>>>>>>> Administrator and for Projects added all we have, but when
>>>>>>>>>> logging in with new user and selecting a project, the group
>>>>>>>>>> selection list is empty and can't open any project.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Also small bug, removing languages from a user (Declared
>>>>>>>>>> language
>>>>>>>>>> proficiencies) doesnt remove them and gives no error.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Br,
>>>>>>>>>> Mikael
>>>>>>>>>>
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Jan 11, 2017, 5:43:01 AM1/11/17

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Sorry, meant: “plain new project”

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