Waveguide material parameter extraction

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Kevin

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Dec 12, 2025, 11:09:25 AM12/12/25
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Hello,

Has anyone used the waveguide material parameter extraction feature? I tested it out with a simulated short waveguide section (no material, just air), and the calculated relative permittivity was not 1. Also tried with PTFE, and results were also way off. I am giving it S-parameters, length, and cutoff frequency.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Kevin

Michael Wollensack METAS

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Dec 16, 2025, 6:25:41 AM12/16/25
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Hi,

can you provide a minimum example (simulation data and the expectation you have).

Regards
Michael

Kevin

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Dec 20, 2025, 9:22:01 PM (12 days ago) 12/20/25
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Hi Michael,
Thank you for your response.
Attached is one .s2p file I'm working with. It's 5 mm of WR-90, with nothing inside (relative permittivity & permeability = 1).
The plots below from METAS VNA Tools are using the NRW algorithm (black) and Direct algorithm (red).
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As you can see, the NRW option is miscalculating both parameters. Direct is working in this most basic case, but becomes inaccurate when I test with a material with εr = 2,  µr = 1.

Best Regards,
Kevin
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