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Grady Hicks

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Jul 4, 2013, 10:17:21 AM7/4/13
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The vocational deacon at my church sent this to me this morning with the question: What do you think?  I quoted the BCP pp408-09 but know, as a member of one of our 4 altar guild teams, that at times consecrated wine is poured into the piscina.  What do you think, and how is it handled at your church?  Happy 4th of July which has helped provide us with a country where we can worry about consecrated wine.  Eileen, Trinity, Baytown, Texas

What do you do if you have too much consecrated bread and wine?
Some, confusedly, think that the piscina (sacrarium) is the solution. It is not.
There is the tradition, in church architecture, of having a piscina (sacrarium) near the altar, or in the vestry/sacristy. A piscina is a bowl with a drain that goes directly to the earth. [Technically, it is the drain that is called the sacrarium; some extend this term to the basin.]
The purpose of the piscina is to dispose of water from, for example, liturgical ablutions. In my experience the more normal practice is drinking the ablutions directly after communion, but a further wash of chalice and paten in the sacristy/vestry could have the water from that poured down a piscina there. A font preferably drains directly into earth – if not, the blessed water might be poured down the piscina. [Bad practice: directly after baptising someone at the west end of the church building, just as everyone was returning to the front, the priest reached down deeply into the font pulling the plug!] Holy oils, and remaining ash from Ash Wednesday can also be disposed of down the piscina.
Misunderstanding the role of the piscina, I have seen notices (all the way to cathedrals) directing the disposal of the consecrated Eucharistic elements down the piscina. I have seen this being instructed (all the way to bishops). [I have even heard of a priest "deconsecrating" the bread and wine! The mind boggles: was the Eucharistic Prayer said backwards?!]
The Roman Catholic Church could not be clearer:
Can. 1367 A person who throws away the consecrated species or takes or retains them for a sacrilegious purpose incurs a latae sententiae excommunication reserved to the Apostolic See; moreover, a cleric can be punished with another penalty, not excluding dismissal from the clerical state.
Using a piscina/sacrarium for this is specifically mentioned as forbidden at 107 here.
Anglican teaching and precepts on this are no different. For example, it is agreed in the formularies of the Anglican Church in Aotearoa, New Zealand and Polynesia that
Any remaining consecrated bread and wine, unless required for the communion of persons not present, is consumed at the end of the distribution, or immediately after The Dismissal of the Community. (A New Zealand Prayer Book – He Karakia Mihinare o Aotearoa, page 516).
Anglicans, like Roman Catholics, are only given two options: consume or reserve the Blessed Sacrament.
The Anglican approach is that people can mentally hold different models about what “actually” happens in the Eucharist, but in order that those holding this variety of acceptable models can worship together (in “Common Prayer”) we have an agreed practice.
Not even bishops can overrule our agreed practice. They, like anyone else, can seek to alter our agreements by the normal processes.
Historically some confusion may have developed, of course, when people have seen unconsecrated, left-over wine being poured down a piscina – which, of course, is perfectly acceptable. The tragedy is in communities where they are so poorly formed, trained, and careless that they themselves cannot distinguish what is consecrated and what is not.
 


Scott Crowell

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Jul 5, 2013, 1:29:54 PM7/5/13
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This tends to be depending on where you are.  Here is my experiance:
 
Palmer Memorial, Houston:
Consumed between the end of communion and the post communion prayer.
 
Christ Church, Las Vegas:
Sent to the Sacristy and either poured down the piscina and hosts reserved to use for LEVs or placed in the Tabernacle.
 
St. Timothy, Henderson, NV:
Poured down the piscina, hosts reserved for LEVs or placed in Tabernacle.
 
St Thomas the Apostle, Hollywood:
Consumed between the end of communion and post communion prayer.
 
St. Francis Palos, Verdes Estates
Host reserved for LEVs or placed in Tabernacle.  Wine is poured outside in the garden since the piscina has been broken for years and will not drain.  The baptistry drain does not work either so the Altar Guild after everyone has departed stands there with turkey basters sucking the water out to pour in the garden. 

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Jul 5, 2013, 2:04:31 PM7/5/13
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At St. Andrew’s in Princess Anne, MD, any remaining consecrated elements are consumed by the priest before the end of the service or by member of the altar guild immediately after the service. In my opinion that is a better option than pouring wine into the piscina . . . I am also not a fan of throwing consecrated bread out for the birds, either, although I did briefly attend a parish where this was done.  . . . and meaning no disrespect for birds, of course.
 
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Ellie Lopez

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Jul 5, 2013, 2:44:15 PM7/5/13
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To St. Francis Palos, Verdes Estates;
   At St. James' Lafayette Square, Baltimore, our piscina has an odd sized outlet. The water would drain out since we could never find the correct sized stopper (besides which, some were ugly). Then we purchased a silver bowl that fits the font and allows us to pour the blessed water out afterwards.  A crystal, glass or even a polished chrome type bowl that fits the font may save the altar guild from the turkey baster. Some priestly input is advised. The water could then be poured into the ground if the piscina is not open.
   Note: We killed one shrub over the years by pouring unused consecrated wine from the chalices into it. Better to drink from the cup if allowed by the priest.
     Ellie Lopez


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St Thomas the Apostle, Hollywood:
Consumed between the end of communion and post communion prayer.
I forgot to add to the above, when the vessels are being washed after words, they are rinsed thricely with plain water and poured down the piscena once for the Father, once for the Son, and once for the Holy Ghost and then washed with hot soapy water.  This water and rinsing can then take place in a regular sink.

Bill Rhines

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Jul 5, 2013, 4:22:22 PM7/5/13
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At St. David's, our practice is to remove any remaining elements to our Altar Guild sacristy (which is right off the Sanctuary) before the post-Communion prayer.  We have designated places in the sacristy where consecrated elements are to be left after the services (to distinguish them from unconsecrated) so that those who are responsible for cleaning up know which is which.  Following the Dismissal, we first make sure that there is sufficient bread and wine for all the visitations that are to take place during that week, either by clergy or by lay visitors.  Anything that remains is consumed by the celebrant, the deacons, me, the ushers, the Eucharistic Ministers, or other communicants as may be necessary. 
 
The Oxford Dictionary of the English Church (one of my favorite resources, by the way) describes the origin of the piscina as a niche used for the ritual cleansing of the celebrants hands and for the cleansing of the vessels used to administer Communion.  It goes on to say that it may contain a basin, the drain from which runs to the earth and is used "to receive the water used for the ceremonies" (ablutions and Baptism).  No mention of it being used to receive consecrated bread or wine. (Again, from a purely practical perspective, I'd have more of a concern about bread being put into it, clogging the drain.)
 
While we make a deliberate effort to not "over consecrate", so that the issue does not arise, in consideration of the practicalities of modern times, we are especially sensitive to those who choose not to consume the extra wine, especially since, on Sunday mornings, people may not have had a significant breakfast, and therefore, might be more effected by the alcohol. (Remember that our choice to use port wine, which is fortified, means that we are using wine that is 16-20% alcohol.)  Children are never allowed to consume anything following Communion. I tend to invite larger people who appear to be physically big enough to tolerate it.  (I weigh 215 lbs., and can most likely handle it better than a 120 lb. person.)
 
While we at St. David's never discussed any particular prohibition about putting consecrated elements down the piscina, it is a distant third on our list of ways to dispose of consecrated elements, well behind consuming or reserving it.
 
I wish all of you God's Peace, and to those of you who are traveling this weekend, please do so safely.
 
Bill Rhines
St. David's Episcopal
Kennebunk, ME
 
 
 
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