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FlowChainSensei

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Sep 10, 2012, 7:57:22 AM9/10/12
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Hi there,



It was so long ago now, I can't even remember how I discovered "visual management".
I've left any number of organisations because of visualisation.
Which was dead easy, mostly.

And there's the whole Rightshifting + Marshall Model visualisation thing (graphics by me).

Not sure there's anything that I need to visualise at the moment.

My thanks to Yves for the invitation to join this group.

- Bob

Yves Hanoulle

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Sep 10, 2012, 8:05:19 AM9/10/12
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Thank you Bob,

Always nice to see you join.
Not sure if everything is still accurate, but "who is bob Marshall" gives some more insights : http://www.hanoulle.be/2011/07/who-is-bob-marshall-flowchainsensei/



2012/9/10 FlowChainSensei <zx1...@gmail.com>

Hi there,



It was so long ago now, I can't even remember how I discovered "visual management".
;-)
 
I've left any number of organisations because of visualisation.

Please say more about that, I'm not sure I understand.
 
Which was dead easy, mostly.

And there's the whole Rightshifting + Marshall Model visualisation thing (graphics by me).
ah true, rightshifting is a visualization in itself....


Not sure there's anything that I need to visualise at the moment.
cool. then I'm sure you can help us all.
;-)
 

My thanks to Yves for the invitation to join this group.
you are welcome.
 

- Bob

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Matt Heusser

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Sep 10, 2012, 8:06:59 AM9/10/12
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My career had great benefitted from visualization.

At one point, I was working on a terrible piece of code as a programmer.  (Literally, I failed the code review, they put it in production anyway, it didn't work so, so they fired the contractor who had done the work and handed it to me.)  My boss said I should "just fix the code", not change the design.

I realized eventually that he thought of "the design" as the database schema and triggers, and that he had a hand in the design.  So if we blamed the programmers, that was okay, but if we crictized the design, he felt he would lose something.

After three months of "just fixing the code" (I wrote 70% of the non-SQL code), I presented him the data flow diagram of the triggers by drawing it on a white board.

He said "this doesn't work, you've got backflow here ..."

And I said "yes, that's true."

He said "You don't understand.  This can't possible work!  You'll have to rewrite it"

And I said "Well, boss, if you say so.  Okay.  I guess I can rewrite it."

True story.

That said, my visualization skills stink.  I have a writing disability; my small motor skills developed excruciatingly slowly.  That's why my parents bought me a keyboard and encouraged me to use the computer.  

I'm on here to learn.

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Cuan Mulligan

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Sep 10, 2012, 8:18:35 AM9/10/12
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Hi Matt, 

Curious as to what measure you are using to asses that you stink at visualisation ?

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Yves Hanoulle

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Sep 10, 2012, 8:21:15 AM9/10/12
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Hi Matt,

Cool story.
>That said, my visualization skills stink.  I have a writing disability; my small motor skills developed excruciatingly slowly.  That's why my parents bought me a keyboard and encouraged me to use the computer.   
I find this funny.
My hand writing has been called Yvesoglyphs (similar to hieroglyphs) for years.
I probably went to computers for the same reason

this is one of the reasons why in my workshops I ask other people to write stuff on whiteboards
but visualisation is so much more to me then handwriting 

the best example of Henrik Kniberg in his ale2012 talk was Technical debt in meter.
Now I heared about the metaphor before, but the picture in slide 38 is so powerfull...

anyway, I launched this to learn, so you are in the right place.

Yves




2012/9/10 Matt Heusser <matt.h...@gmail.com>

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Sep 10, 2012, 8:22:54 AM9/10/12
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By stink, I mean, my stuff isn't as pretty as everyone else.

I think the right took for that is Qualitative assessment.

I went to Test Coach Camp, and a bunch of people drew bubbles and
stuff.

My handwriting isn't very good.

QED.

As for my /skill/ of systems thinking and evaluating tradeoffs and
systems forces, etc, I'd say I'm pretty decent at that. :-)

thanks!

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On Sep 10, 8:18 am, Cuan Mulligan <cuan.mulli...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Matt,
>
> Curious as to what measure you are using to asses that you stink
> at visualisation ?
>
> C
> __________________________
> CTI qualified Value Coach
> M: +447748147974
> Want to know more <https://www.vizify.com/cuan-mulligan> about me ?
> "The value of experimentation is not the trying - it's the trying again
> after the experiment fails."
>
> On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 1:06 PM, Matt Heusser <matt.heus...@gmail.com>wrote:
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