Tracking people through a mobile app

[Pjotr Prins]

Anyone here interested in developing a COVID-19 tracking system for
people like the NHS and the Chinese are doing? A system that will
guarantee privacy in the best possible way while still making it
possible to set alarms when you get into an infected area and can
trace people back to all contacts in case of an infection?

[Lisa Bang]

Hi Piotr,

A group in the UK and some people from tech companies are working on an app like this called contact tracing. React, node, typescript on top of neo4j.

Below is the link to the repo for the front end.

https://github.com/ContactTracing-app/Frontend

The post about it is on devpost here:

https://devpost.com/software/contact-tracing-with-neo4j-graphql-and-react

Best,

Lisa

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[Alexander Garcia Castro]

There is also an MIT app (android and iOS) with source code in git. I also know this is a gov effort in Spain. 

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[Pjotr Prins]

Maybe we can add a topic and invite these groups to participate? It
will be a way to recruit contributors.

On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 10:52:32AM +0200, Alexander Garcia Castro wrote:
> There is also an MIT app (android and iOS) with source code in git. I
> also know this is a gov effort in Spain.
>

> On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 2:41 AM Lisa Bang <[1]lisa...@gmail.com>

> wrote:
>
> Hi Piotr,
> A group in the UK and some people from tech companies are working on an
> app like this called contact tracing. React, node, typescript on top of
> neo4j.
> Below is the link to the repo for the front end.

> [2]https://github.com/ContactTracing-app/Frontend

> The post about it is on devpost here:

> [3]https://devpost.com/software/contact-tracing-with-neo4j-graphql-and-
> react
> Best,
> Lisa
>
> On Sun, Mar 29, 2020, 5:33 PM Pjotr Prins <[4]pjot...@gmail.com>

> wrote:
>
> Anyone here interested in developing a COVID-19 tracking system for
> people like the NHS and the Chinese are doing? A system that will
> guarantee privacy in the best possible way while still making it
> possible to set alarms when you get into an infected area and can
> trace people back to all contacts in case of an infection?
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> Alexander Garcia
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> References
>
> 1. mailto:lisa...@gmail.com
> 2. https://github.com/ContactTracing-app/Frontend
> 3. https://devpost.com/software/contact-tracing-with-neo4j-graphql-and-react
> 4. mailto:pjot...@gmail.com
> 5. mailto:virtual-biohacka...@googlegroups.com
> 6. https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/virtual-biohackathon/20200330003323....@thebird.nl
> 7. https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Alexander_Garcia
> 8. http://www.usefilm.com/photographer/75943.html
> 9. http://www.linkedin.com/in/alexgarciac

[Tony Wildish]

since there are already several projects doing that already, does it make sense to try to stretch to cover that too? I feel we may be taking on more than we can reasonably handle here.

The conversations on this list clearly show an overwhelming biology background among participants, but contact-tracing / geolocating is a purely info-tech problem, not a biological problem. Maybe we should stick to problems that we can solve better than other people, and leave to others the problems that they can solve better than us?

Cheers,
Tony

[Pjotr Prins]

On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 01:41:19PM +0100, Tony Wildish wrote:
>
> since there are already several projects doing that already, does it make sense to try to stretch to cover that too? I feel we may be taking on more than we can reasonably handle here.
>
> The conversations on this list clearly show an overwhelming biology background among participants, but contact-tracing / geolocating is a purely info-tech problem, not a biological problem. Maybe we should stick to problems that we can solve better than other people, and leave to others the problems that they can solve better than us?

Just to be clear, I am suggesting these others join us to form their
own team.

I don't think *we* have to select topics. We have a mixture here
of groups that will work independently and groups that will have to
interact to get to a product. Traditionally BioHackathons work in
independent groups - it scales nicely. The groups that do interact
will need some level of coordination, I agree with you. But that is a
subset.

I am also thinking is that we may get large groups of students who'll
want to participate. A topic like tracking and writing apps could be
interesting to them. And if a topic is not served by anyone, it does
not matter. It still can get listed. We'll find out where work gets
done.

BTW tracking is also biology when you start linking phenotypes and
(viral) genotypes. To be honest, I think tracking will be extremely
important the coming years to get society back on track. Any such
effort is important.

Pj.

[Hilmar Lapp]

Apparently Singapore is planning to open-source theirs?
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2020/03/26/singapore_tracetogether_coronavirus_encounter_tracing_app_lessons/

-hilmar

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[Pjotr Prins]

On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 09:16:58AM -0400, Hilmar Lapp wrote:
> Apparently Singapore is planning to open-source theirs?
> https://www.theregister.co.uk/2020/03/26/singapore_tracetogether_coronavirus_encounter_tracing_app_lessons/
>
> -hilmar

Yes, these are great initiatives :). Handling the backend will be the
real trick. Certainly where it comes to privacy there is work to be
done.

Pj.

[Alexander Garcia Castro]

The interaction across themes/topics/groups when in a F2F meeting happens over coffe, breaks, swimming pool, etc. here it is different, we need (IMO) a facilitator. this is a person who knows the dynamic and the people and is capable of pointing people to talk to other people for feasible collabs or simply because there may e sinergies. I dont think this can happen naturally in a visual environment where not everybody is aware of everyone else. 

Having good descriptions of the themes/topics/ projects in the git is important and these should have their own channels so that the interaction can happen in a "natural" way as well as mediated by the facilitator (this facilitator is in my mind the same theme/group/topic coordinator/leader). this is in any case a similar scenario to that in a F2F biohack. we may just be adding a role (that of facilitator) to the leader/coordinator. Bear in mind that when on a F2F biohack it is the group leader the one presenting what the group is working on.

we need, IMHO, a stand up, a general one, at the end of the day or every 2 days (every2 days is better). 

[Yasunori Yamamoto]

Hello, I’m involved in a patient-tracking project, and we have submitted a paper of this to a conference and arXiv ( https://arxiv.org/abs/2003.06199 ).

We’d like to develop a mobile app that periodically checks whether an owner of a mobile phone visited any point close to known infected patients.

Patient information is usually released by local public health authorities, and we’re trying to make it to be LOD, too.

Yasunori

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[Pjotr Prins]

I have added the information on this thread to

https://github.com/virtual-biohackathons/covid-19-bh20/wiki/Tracking

On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 11:39:06PM +0900, Yasunori Yamamoto wrote:
> Hello, I’m involved in a patient-tracking project, and we have
> submitted a paper of this to a conference and arXiv

> ( [1]https://arxiv.org/abs/2003.06199 ).

>
> We’d like to develop a mobile app that periodically checks whether an
> owner of a mobile phone visited any point close to known infected
> patients.
>
> Patient information is usually released by local public health
> authorities, and we’re trying to make it to be LOD, too.
>
> Yasunori
>

> R2/03/30 22:21、Pjotr Prins <[2]pjot...@gmail.com>のメール:

>
> On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 09:16:58AM -0400, Hilmar Lapp wrote:
>
> Apparently Singapore is planning to open-source theirs?

> [3]https://www.theregister.co.uk/2020/03/26/singapore_tracetogether_
> coronavirus_encounter_tracing_app_lessons/

> -hilmar
>
> Yes, these are great initiatives :). Handling the backend will be the
> real trick. Certainly where it comes to privacy there is work to be
> done.
> Pj.
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> References
>
> 1. https://arxiv.org/abs/2003.06199
> 2. mailto:pjot...@gmail.com
> 3. https://www.theregister.co.uk/2020/03/26/singapore_tracetogether_coronavirus_encounter_tracing_app_lessons/
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> 5. https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/virtual-biohackathon/20200330132146....@thebird.nl