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VIPhone, The Next Generation

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Jan 5, 2025, 11:19:18 AMJan 5
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Hello All and Happy New Year!

I am posting this to both lists because I can’t remember where I saw a couple of posts to which I will be responding.

On Christmas morning, I was hit with a terrible case of the flu.  As all of the urgent care facilities in my area were closed, I spent Christmas morning in an E R.  That was a first, believe me.

After 9 days or so, I am finally beginning to feel better although I am far from being back to normal.

A couple of days ago, without warning, Google informed us that the V iPhone group contained posts that violated its terms of service.  They did not tell us which posts these were but they did automatically remove them and then placed us on what is essentially a suspension.  From what I can tell, they removed about 14 posts or so.

I have sent a review request to Google so the list should be back up and running in a couple of weeks, or so.

Yes, I know this is ridiculous and yes I know we should probably move the list to another service.  The last time this happened, by the time Cara and I decided to move the group, the original list was restored and well, you know the rest.

With regard to Amazon.com and VoiceOver:  I am finding the web version of the site to be extremely difficult to navigate on iPad OS 18.  As of last night, I could only purchase a Kindel title via my iPone running iOS 18.  I just don’t get why VoiceOver doesn’t work as well as it once did with Amazon.com in Safari, on iPad.

When I use my Windows PC, the web portal works just fine with Jaws so I am truly baffled.

As for the Amazon App?  I am not experiencing any problems but then I haven’t purchased anything via the app since updating to 18.1.

I have not yet updated any of my devices to 18.2 because of Watch 11.2 volume problem.  Keeping this in mind, I have noticed that when I reboot my iPad Pro M4, the messages app displays contact telephone numbers but not the associated names.  This only occurs on my iPad.  Yes, I know about deleting and then restoring the contacts but this only works until the next reboot.  Is / was this a known issue in iPad OS 18.1?

Finally, does anyone know when this year’s CSUN convention will be taking place in Anaheim, California?

I will do my best to begin posting some interesting articles as soon as I feel a little better.

As always, all replies appreciated.

Mark

Dennis Long

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Jan 8, 2025, 2:10:13 PMJan 8
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Mark you need to move the group to something else.  If you don’t you will lose members that is the bottom line.  There was nothing posted that should’ve caused it to be flagged.  More over if there was why weren’t you given notice what they were and given a chance to correct the situation?  Time to move from Google groups.

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Loreal Lavigna

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Jan 8, 2025, 4:43:51 PMJan 8
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Hey Mark,

 

I’m so sorry to hear you’re still feeling under the weather, but hopefully you’ll be doing better soon.  It’s an awful time to be hit with anything.  My household is already under attack.

 

I’m sorry to hear about the issues with the list on Google.  Who knows why they’re doing what they’re doing.  One minute things go well with anything Google, then something hits a snag in one spot, and the domino effect continues.  Or should it be more aptly called the Wack-a-mole effect?

 

Please let me know if I can be of any help.

 

As far as the issue with your iPad and whether this issue was specifically an iOS 18 issue, I don’t recall seeing this as being one I personally ran into.  It’s not to say others didn’t experience the issue with contacts’ names not showing up on reboot of the device, just that I didn’t run into this myself.  I’ve been using iOS, iPad OS, and Watch OS latest public releases, and I am doing public beta testing, but that’s info for the beta list.

 

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Flor Lynch

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Jan 8, 2025, 6:51:58 PMJan 8
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Hello Mark,


Sorry to hear that you've been under the weather.


Are you at liberty to tell the list if emails that were sent to it were treated as spamn by Googlegroups? Google is well capable of not letting emails go out, and having them go out first before deciding that they are spam emails, is a bad look, and if it happened, bad policy.


(I know that Google withholds emails from being redistributed if its spam filters (Or filters as you would've set them for your group) scores them as spam or potential spam.


As an owner of a Googlegroup, I guess I'm lucky that the number of spam emails sent there has never been so large that Googlegroups suspended it,  - so it hasn't happened. (The group is called VIBISTRO - Vision Impaired / Blind, Ireland, Satelllite Television and Radio Online. There have been some SPAM messages, but just a couple that got through due to my naivety or inadvertence. I banned the offending senders. The Rest, Googlegroups let me decide the messages' fates.)


Are the 9 to 5 Mac content emails ok to send?, i.e., could they be potential violators of Google's terms? (They are pretty good reading, but you'd know how policies implemented by machine servers can go awry of realness.) 


As for moving to Groups.io, I believe that there is a limit to the amount of members a free list can have there, before it has to be paid for. (That is my understanding, based on what a friend has told me.) However, it is true that running a Googlegroup isn't the easiest way to set up and run an email list these days. 


I hope everything is sorted soon. 


Flor.

Flor Lynch

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Jan 8, 2025, 6:55:56 PMJan 8
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(That reply should have gone out off list.)


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