Sorry for my bad english. I'm looking for this shortcut. Almost operration in Mc i made without a mouse( of course it is quickly), but i dont see any idea to switch with keyboard between those windows (player/composer window and timeline). Of course in Help i don't see any answer for my question. TAB key doesn't work..i've just remove any shortcuts for this key...
Your English is better than you think. I'll check tomorrow, but I think there is no way to map selecting either the composer window or the timeline window, or selecting a bin for that matter, to the keyboard. You may indeed be right.
I believe he's looking for a way to map to the keyboard "select source/record window" and "select timeline window", so he does no mouse clicking between the two. Sitting at home, I can't remember ever seeing that in the command palette or the windows menu. Any ideas?
Maybe I am missing the point of the question, but I use the "escape" key to switch back and forth between the two windows... At least that is how it is set up on Xpress Pro. Definitely nicer than having to use the mouse. Hope that helps... And now I see I did miss the question, but by switching with the escape key you can still mark ins and outs on the timeline while in the composer window...
Thanks, Douglas, I think we're getting closer. Now I'm wondering if let's say, you have a tool or a bin currently highlighted and you want to go directly to either the composer window or the timeline window. Is there a way to map that to the keyboard?
I'm on v2022.7, using MacOS 12.1 and I still have a lot of frustration with the Avid windows not working as intended. That is to say they frequently (like almost always) get stuck in a mode where they won't move in front of each other. They stay at whatver "layer" they are at and no amount of clicking will solve it.
I am on an M1 Mac, so that may be a contributor. I've wondered if the Rosetta code translation gets hung somewhere. I'm also having issues with windows within the app where I can't command-tilde between windows to bring them to the front, so I have to move windows out of the way to find the ones behind.
Just wondering if anyone was experiencing these issues with resizing my composer windows in Avid 2018.11? As you can see in the posted video I can't seem to drag out the composer windows to fill the screen. Working in a 3 monitor set up, two of the monitors are HD and the third is 2560x1440. The large one is where im trying to resize the composer window. No other windows besides the composer has any trouble resizing on this display
Thanks, Philip! Support is saying it could be because Monterey 12.5 isn't supported but I'm pretty sure it was also happening to me on 12.4. Same with the window in avid being stuck behind other avid windows thing, which I'll also do a video of next time it happens.
A host panel is simply an empty grey background space. It's a 'background panel' you can dock other floating panels to. You can either dock panels to each other and then resize them to fit the entire screen, or you can dock them to a host panel on a monitor. Typically, setting host panels and docking windows to them is more reliable/stable than having everything floating about without host panels. In my experience, when everything is docked to a host panel, media composer will remember the layout when saving the current workspace.
You'll notice that you'll always see at least one host panel. The main panel which has "Avid Media Composer - (project name)" written on the tab/ribbon is technically a host panel. You can't get rid of that. In your case, Why don't you maximise that main host panel to take advantage of your whole screen, then dock other windows to it? In Avid 2018 on PC systems, everything would be one host panel, and you were able to resize that host panel across all of your screens, then place floating windows ontop of them. This way, you have one main host panel to dock everything to, and you can choose if secondary monitor display host panels or not.
- Secondary displays without host panels will not have a grey background. You should be able to see the system's desktop. You can float panels and then move them into this space, or dock two panels together, float them, and move them onto this monitor, but these media composer windows will not dock to the monitor as it would if it were a host panel.
It feels like this has become a "controversial" view, but I find a bunch of overlapping windows to be a superior way to work. Regardless of my feelings though, it is also the paradigm of MacOS. I am not a coder, but I have a sneaky suspicion that the host panel and/or un-docked windows is part of what is causing the windowing problems in Avid 2022, a least on M1 Monterey systems.
Preliminary tesitng suggests if I dock my composer & timeline to the host panel on the Right side, my Left monitor can have floating bins. I will see if this also solves the other windowing behavior problems. I'll write back in a few days with results.
I am still a bit unclear on the "host panel" menu. It often has both monitors checked, but one greyed out. If I end up with the "big grey screen" background, fiddling with this menu seems to remedy the situation. But I'm still not sure what I'm actually doing or why, now that my "host panel" is on the other screen holding my composer and timeline.
1) One oddity is when I set up my edit workspace this way, all the other workspaces invert. i.e. Color, Effects, and Audio all decide that the Composer must be on the Left and bins are on the Right. I think this is because Avid defaults to having the "host panel" window on the Left. So I'm not sure if I'm screwing things up or not. I went through and swapped the host panel window on all my workspaces so now the composer/timeline are docked to the host-panel on the Right Screen. Is this what you were suggesting, Phil?
2) I'm still not understanding the reason for this floating irremovable "host panel" window. I understand how to use it if you want to dock everything, but if not it seems just to waste space. Even when docking, it seems like I dock windows to each other without the host panel. But my grumpy complaint is the wasted space and extra text.
I really am trying to work with this new design, but it seems sort of clunky. Why am I forced to always have windows for my windows? What is the benefit of all this text on my screen that has nothing to do with the content of what I'm working on?
As a side note to this: In v2018 I could see my desktop or other apps behind Media Composer on either monitor. Now it seems Avid is determined to make it so at least one monitor is completely used up by Avid. I do not understand the philosophy behind this. Not to keep repeating myself but, why? What is the purpose of the windows in a window philosophy? What is the advantage?
So then I selected "restore to default". Oh no! Now it switched sides again! And now my Edit workspace also switched sides. And now it crashed while saving to the attic. Ugh, this really is a disaster of an inteface. I'm sorry, I'm very frustrated. Spending hours and hours this weekend trying to figure out why windows are getting stuck in Avid and now evertything is far far worse for having tried to resolve it.
I think I will return to hiding the "host panel" under my composer. I believe that is what is causing windows to get stuck, but at least I wasn't losing workpaces. Something about this "host panel" idea from Windows-PC systems is not playing well with MacOS. It just isn't consistent.
I just came across your post when I was researching how to fix my own similar issues. On my system on Windows 10, I'm having the same trouble in Color Correction mode. I can't make the windows docked, and when I click on the timeline, it kicks me back into the Edit workspace. I can't use the color corection controls.
So a whole new interface to learn on MC 11.0. And I can't figure the first thing. I've inherited a project. The composer source/record windows and the time fill my entire monitor and I can not for the life of me figure out how to get them the way I like to work: smaller windows for all, so I can see around the edges of everything, and then make bigger when I need to. I am unable to drag as I'm used to.I can't see the edges at all.
The new windows are really not very good. They are super cluttered (sidebar panel is un-removable) and have a tiny border to click on to move tehm with. They also have all sorts of problems where they get stuck behind each other, and I suspect this is related to how "custom built" they are instead of more standard OS windows.
Please reconsider the presence of the sidebar panel on every bin window (I mean the purple bar that is there even when you "hide sidebar"). Please reconsider your decision to have 3 close boxes on every window. Just pause and think about the weirdness of that. If I open 2 floating bin windows, I get 4 names and six close buttons! SIX!
Things are better with dual (larger) monitors, but I still feel I'm doing a lot of unpinning/de-tabbing of various windows - all of which seems totally pointless when I can simply go back to the classic interface.
Generally it all looks a bit more cluttered and less refined, the space taken up around the edges of all windows is now so much larger, don't get me started on the bin containers, they are just plain ridiculous, it now takes more clicks to access the things I need. I still don't get how they work and have managed to get a project window with a settings window to behave like the old one but if I want to create a new workspace I have to go through the whole process of option clicking and opening and moving bins to keep the project and settings window where I need it, for God's sake that is just stupid.
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