How to get Lynx or Elinks to find the Google search for text field?

[Peter Tesar]

Hello,

I am trying to learn to use the 2 text browsers: Lynx and Elinks. In the console. How do I get to the edit field to do a search? I was lucky once (in about 20 tries) with Lynx and no luck with Elinks.

The Speakup's punctuation level is set to the highest and the highlight tracking turned on.

I know basic navigation using tabs and arrows (in Lynx) and down arrow only in Elinks. When the same line is repeated many times I believe that the line has many links.

When I get to what I believe is a text field, I hear the underline characters and Lynx gives edit field commands.

I don't know what text field I am in.

I start typing 'blind' but the unexpected happens.

In Lynx:
I sometimes hear downloading and some download options are presented for an index file.
I typed the letter 'e' hoping to land on an edit field and I hear
  no editor defined.
Since I was successful once, I don't think an editor needs to be defined.

In Elinks:
I start typing 'blind' and with the 'n' character I hear
  no previous string.
The letter 'n' is used to find the next occurrence of a string.

Can anyone explain how to get to and enter into the text field to search for in either Lynx or Elinks? Thanks.

Peter

[Burt Henry]

Well, type o in lynx and you will be able to arrow down to where you can select to either number links, number form fields, or both, or leave things unnumbered.
I choose to  number links only. Then just arrow down till you hear  a line with nothing but a number if you set to use numbers on links and fields. The next line says google search, I'm feeling lucky and advanced search.
You need to set speakup to cursoring on to hear the numbers correctly, and when there's more than one link on a line you use the number to get the one you want.
The first time you hear the list of links when arrowing down you are actually over the first link, the second time on the second link, and so forth. You can count backwards as well, but the numbers get rid of the guess work.
If you don't have fields announcing then you will usually hear nothing on the edit box for search. Some pages say what the edit field is and the OK button may be on the same line, so the first time you hear password for instance you type the pw and then down arrow or tab once to hit OK.
I've not used elinks in a long time, and barely learned the most basic then, so I can't help except to say that things are configured differently, and as I remember accessed a bit differently all around, especially for forms. I seem to remember elinks was not at all intuitive/easy to use on forms and edit fields for me. Other than that it's a good browser I think.
I wrote a post or two on configuration of Links several months ago which gave more detail on setting up the  lynx browser both by editing the .conf  and rc files as well as using the options menu. Sorry this is a ragged and incomplete post, but I'm really running today.
One thing though, don't forget to save your changes to disk before exiting the options menu. The buttons and checkbox to save or cancel are at the top, and I think this can be done at the bottom of the menu as well.

If you still have questions, write back and I'll be glad to explain anything else about Lynx if I know it, but got to go now. Look for my posts of a few months ago for info on cookies handling, or just look at the lynx config file in /etc/ and read the comments. They taught me half of what I know about the program I think.
Regards, and happy browsing...
 
B.H.

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In links the search is the / key and search backwards is ? which is / shifted.

David

[Peter Tesar]

Hello Bert,

Thanks for responding. I went through the Lynx options menu (2 pages) but didn't find anything about the numbering of links and fields that you described.

My problem is probably knowing how to read and interpret what is presented. I'm used to the Windows environment with the words for buttons and check boxes.
This is a text environment and I don't know what to do with the information presented.

I tabbed through, arrowed down and I used flat review to read both pages.
There appears to be categories starting with 'General Preferences'.
Some lines have the words 'on' or 'off' within brackets.
Some lines end with 'line line line' (probably a text field).

I didn't find anything that seemed to be a list that I could select from to determine the numbering type (as you described). Perhaps there is a text field where I have to type '1', '2' or '3'.

I don't understand your statement:
   The first time you hear the list of links when arrowing down you are actually over the first link, the second time on the ...

Perhaps this is the situation that will come up after setting and saving the option I want.

Peter

[Willem van der Walt]

Press slash and type three underlines then enter.

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[Burt Henry]

Hi Peter,
I'm late for work, but quickly: make sure you have speakup set to cursoring on, not highlight tracking. Open Lynx, and type o. Arrow down a bit you should find something that says keypad mode with the numpad review keys. This is right after the cookie options and before the alternative keystrokes that say use VI keys or similar.
When I arrow down I find choices like links are numbered, links and form fields are numbered, etc. then I get some on and off options. Once you have chosen such a n option the choices start at number 19 or 20, but the irony of the situation is until you find it the first time links are not shown that way...lol..
I think there may even be a qu8ick way to navigate to this part of the options menu, I think it was with k, but this is a strange page in the way things are displayed and open up depending on where in the configuration/selection process you are.
I'm sure you can find this, but if for some  reason you are still having trouble write me off list and we can hook up on ventrillo, skype or some kind of IM chat protocol so that you can get browsing. I'll be back available in about 2 and a half hours, but will be pretty busy for the next day, busy, but at the computer, so I'll check mail every couple of hours if not more often and be glad to sort things out with you. If I get a minute and remember I'll look for what shows up in thelynx configuration files so that you can probably just copy and paste a line or two in to this file and restart lynx.
B.H.  

[Peter Tesar]

Reporting success.

Thanks to Willem.
The search for the three underlines is a useful tool for the text page.

Thanks to Bert.
I got the options menu to change and save the changes.

After I found the 'Keypad mode:' line, ENTER opened the list. Arrow down twice to:
   links and form fields are numbered
Press ENTER to accept and return to the options menu.  

The options line has changed to:
   Keypad mode: (links and form fields are numbered)

Press Home and press ENTER to accept the changes. This closes the Options Menu so press 'o' to return to the menu. Press ENTER on the 'save options to disk'.
This puts a character 'x' at the end of the line ... What ever that means.

I then needed to accept the changes to close the menu.

Now, when I start Lynx, the links and form fields are numbered.

Thanks, Peter