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D.J.J. Ring, Jr.
For info, I have updated the emacspeak+voxin installer using emacspeak
33.0 .
This has been tested using Debian Squeeze (32+64bits) and should work
with Ubuntu Lucid or Maverick.
Here is the URL:
http://soft.oralux.net/emacspeak/emacspeak_voxin_install_33.0/emacspeak_voxin_install.33_0.tgz
Best regards,
Gilles
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I tried the myspace and twitter extention - but they are still very primative.
The author says that this version of emacspeak supports cloud computing.
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Can you also make one such package for espeak?
I don't have voxin and I am pritty comfortable with espeak.
I have tryed level best to set it up with espeak but could not get success.
Happy hacking.
Krishnakant.
D.J.J. Ring, Jr.
In Maverick I now see Gnome Speech Server in Orca setup, so espeak is back.
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hackingKK
Oralux had an older version I guess which did just that, but can't find it any more.
and I do wish to try out the latest emacspeak and emacs any ways, but I am very well tuned with espeak.
Happy hacking.
Krishnakant.
D.J.J. Ring, Jr.
Just installing emacspeak from the Ubuntu repository was enough for me to get it working with ORCA with speech-dispatcher using espeak as synthizier and speakup in console.
The set up was automatic for me.
Just make sure you have speech-dispatcher speechd espeak installed..
In ORCA you will see speech-dispatcher for voice system and espeak for synthesizer.
David.
Alex M
You asked for instructions on getting emacspeak with espeak. Here is
what worked for me. it took me quite a few tries and some reinstalls
to perfect this procedure. I did this on a virtual version of Linux
and it is the setup I currently have. emacspeak is working well for
me right now. I don't use voxin so, it was of paramount importance to
me to get espeak working and working perfectly. I've included
installation instructions which I learned through trial and error and
a very basic quickstart on navigating and customizing emacspeak so you
can at least read the manuals and help files efore you start working
in it. Been meaning to post this for a while. Navigation guide is
presented from the point of view of someone coming from a screen
reader background. Power users, corrections are welcome and eagerly
anticipated with navigation and customization.
Preparation.
* go to software repositories and into the Other Software sources
tab.
* Arrow down till you hear the vinux test repository mentioned. Make
sure this is activated so you get emacspeak 32 and not 29 which is
what ubuntu has in there.
* Next, reload your packages in synaptic.
* Exit synaptic. The rest is all done strictly in console not
terminal, console! =)
Emacspeak installation
* Hold down control alt f1 to get to console and log in with username
and password if needed.
* Once speakup announces your prompt, type the following on one line:
sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install sonic; sudo apt-get install
emacspeak
Please notice the semicolons. Sonic is the group of libraries for
espeak which Bill cox created. they help with emacspeak and espeak
because they eliminate the tendency it has to not pronounce the final
syllable of a line or the last syllable of a link. It is quite
frustrating, actually and I despaired of every using emacspeak with
espeak because it drove me crazy until I added these libraries and
bumped espeak from 1.3 to 1.4.
* Emacspeak will ask you what speech synthesizer you want. Use your
arrows and select espeak and press enter.
* On the port question, hit enter because it has "None"already
prefilled for you
* You will then be asked to wait because it will need to compile.
Once it is done compiling, it will ask again for the port of your
speech engine. Again, tell it none. You should be able to just
press enter.
Final step (optional but produces optimum results)
You should now have emacspeak itself installed and you come to the
last tricky step. I suppose you could leave it out if you wanted to
but espeak will still have some problems from time to time at the end
of lines and with some syllables for certain elements. You see, you
need espeak 1.4 and not 1.3 to fully take advantage of the sonic
libraries. You will also see some improvement to Orca's speed or, at
least, I did. Still in that console prompt, type:
sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install espeak; sudo restorespeech
The last part is very important. It is also important to get all of
that on one line. Upgrading espeak will cause speakup and orca to
begin speaking jibberish until you run these scripts that recompile
speakup and, I think speech dispatcher from source. After this is all
done, I usually reboot and, when my session comes back up, I type
emacspeak at a console prompt and it works just fine. You will have
to hit print screen to kill speakup though since they will both talk
at the same time if you do not. You don't need speakup in
emacspeak.
Some commands to get you started.
If you have never used emacspeak before and you have used screen
readers, this may be of help to you. It is important to know how to
move around and what to expect when it comes up.
Emacspeak will come up into the emacs introductory page with links to
manuals and tutorials which you will hear spoken in a lower voice.
Everything there is done with hotkeys. conventions are c for control
and m for alt or meta like this: c-e c-h means control e control h.
M-v means alt or meta and v together. Here are some navigation quick
tips. to avoid compusion, I've separated commands with an asterisk.
If I leave out the asterisks, assume that the hotkey combinations are
part of the same function you are performing:
c-v * m-v Scroll down and up a screen respectively
c-n * c-p next line and previous line respectively
m-f * m-b Forward one word and back one word respectively
c-f * c-b Forward one character and back one character respectively
m-< * m-> top of buffer and bottom of buffer respectively
(translates to shift alt because it's the only way to get a greater or
less than sign)
Pressing enter on a link takes you to it's target.
Basic customization
c-e c-d c-r lets you set a numeric speech rate
c-e c-d c-p lets you set punctuation
c-e c-a turns on audio icons which play sounds depending on your
actions
Finally.
c-x c-c lets you get out of emacspeak.
Once you are out, hit print screen and speakup comes back up for you.
I hope this works for you as well as it did for me. I am very happy
with it.
alex M
hackingKK wrote:
> Ok, So can some one help me with step-by-step instructions on getting
> the latest version of emacspeak working with espeak?
> Oralux had an older version I guess which did just that, but can't find
> it any more.
> and I do wish to try out the latest emacspeak and emacs any ways, but I
> am very well tuned with espeak.
>
> Happy hacking.
> Krishnakant.
>
> On Wednesday 08 December 2010 05:03 PM, D.J.J. Ring, Jr. wrote:
> > This installer was made by Oralux.org and is only for Voxin users.
> > What it does is make the installation of Voxin automatic. It does so
> > by installing emacspeak. You end up with both speed-dispatcher and
> > emacspeak speech server.
> >
> > In Maverick I now see Gnome Speech Server in Orca setup, so espeak is
> > back.
> >
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> >
> > Hi there,
> > Can you also make one such package for espeak?
> > I don't have voxin and I am pritty comfortable with espeak.
> > I have tryed level best to set it up with espeak but could not get
> > success.
> > Happy hacking.
> > Krishnakant.
> >
> >
> > On Monday 06 December 2010 07:26 PM, D.J.J. Ring, Jr. wrote:
> >>
> >> For info, I have updated the emacspeak+voxin installer using
> >> emacspeak
> >> 33.0 .
> >>
> >> This has been tested using Debian Squeeze (32+64bits) and should work
> >> with Ubuntu Lucid or Maverick.
> >>
> >> Here is the URL:
> >> http://soft.oralux.net/emacspeak/emacspeak_voxin_install_33.0/emacspeak_voxin_install.33_0.tgz
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >> Gilles
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The only problem is that I don't know what are the correct answers to be given t the setup of emacspeak?
Happy hacking.
Krishnakant.
Alex M
c-e d r will get you to where you cna change speech rate
c-e d p will get you to punctuation mode change (none, some, all)
Incidentally, c-e d shit-c will make your capitalized letters
noticeable with a sort of clink sound
c-e d s turns off the annoying "cap" prefix they have by default.
Instead of "cap emacspeak" you get *clink* emacspeak. Kinda cool!
Alex M
and not as what I wrote. So so sorry.
Alex M
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hackingKK
On Monday 13 December 2010 09:47 PM, Tony Sales wrote:
I wish my keyboard had a 'Shit' key! In the UK we just have a Shift Key... ;)
I suffered using windows and every now and then I would say "oh s**t"
On 13 December 2010 16:10, Alex M <alex.m...@gmail.com>
:)
Happy hacking.
Krishnakant.
hackingKK
> Hi,
>
> You asked for instructions on getting emacspeak with espeak. Here is
> what worked for me. it took me quite a few tries and some reinstalls
> to perfect this procedure. I did this on a virtual version of Linux
> and it is the setup I currently have. emacspeak is working well for
> me right now. I don't use voxin so, it was of paramount importance to
> me to get espeak working and working perfectly. I've included
> installation instructions which I learned through trial and error and
> a very basic quickstart on navigating and customizing emacspeak so you
> can at least read the manuals and help files efore you start working
> in it. Been meaning to post this for a while. Navigation guide is
> presented from the point of view of someone coming from a screen
> reader background. Power users, corrections are welcome and eagerly
> anticipated with navigation and customization.
>
>
Alex, Thanks a million for this wonderful compact guide.
It is one of those best emails to have in the archives of vinux-support
IMHO.
> Preparation.
>
> * go to software repositories and into the Other Software sources
> tab.
> * Arrow down till you hear the vinux test repository mentioned. Make
> sure this is activated so you get emacspeak 32 and not 29 which is
> what ubuntu has in there.
>
Is this process accessible, or do i need sighted help?
> * Next, reload your packages in synaptic.
> * Exit synaptic. The rest is all done strictly in console not
> terminal, console! =)
>
>
OK.
> Emacspeak installation
>
> * Hold down control alt f1 to get to console and log in with username
> and password if needed.
> * Once speakup announces your prompt, type the following on one line:
> sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install sonic; sudo apt-get install
> emacspeak
>
>
So this will get all the packages is it? Do I need to get any other
dependencies?
I guess apt-get install always gets the right dependencies, but in the
past I had some problems with testing repos.
> Please notice the semicolons. Sonic is the group of libraries for
> espeak which Bill cox created. they help with emacspeak and espeak
> because they eliminate the tendency it has to not pronounce the final
> syllable of a line or the last syllable of a link. It is quite
> frustrating, actually and I despaired of every using emacspeak with
> espeak because it drove me crazy until I added these libraries and
> bumped espeak from 1.3 to 1.4.
> * Emacspeak will ask you what speech synthesizer you want. Use your
> arrows and select espeak and press enter.
>
Wow, I never got this before when I tryed.
Never the less I have never tryed in Vinux.
Ubuntu gave version 20 of emacs.
> * On the port question, hit enter because it has "None"already
> prefilled for you
> * You will then be asked to wait because it will need to compile.
> Once it is done compiling, it will ask again for the port of your
> speech engine. Again, tell it none. You should be able to just
> press enter.
>
>
Here I would like to know if speech dispatcher will be involved in the
process?
> Final step (optional but produces optimum results)
>
> You should now have emacspeak itself installed and you come to the
> last tricky step. I suppose you could leave it out if you wanted to
> but espeak will still have some problems from time to time at the end
> of lines and with some syllables for certain elements. You see, you
> need espeak 1.4 and not 1.3 to fully take advantage of the sonic
> libraries. You will also see some improvement to Orca's speed or, at
> least, I did. Still in that console prompt, type:
> sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install espeak; sudo restorespeech
>
>
Ah, will sudo apt-get install espeak do the trick?
I guess we already have espeak running so will the system not complain
that espeak is already the latest version?
I see you just said espeak without mentioning any version?
please clearify this point.
Or is it that since we have enabled the testing repo, we are getting the
latest version?
> The last part is very important. It is also important to get all of
> that on one line. Upgrading espeak will cause speakup and orca to
> begin speaking jibberish until you run these scripts that recompile
> speakup and, I think speech dispatcher from source. After this is all
> done, I usually reboot and, when my session comes back up, I type
> emacspeak at a console prompt and it works just fine. You will have
> to hit print screen to kill speakup though since they will both talk
> at the same time if you do not. You don't need speakup in
> emacspeak.
>
>
Ok, I any ways wanted to ask if I can disable speakup so that it does
not speek at boot time?
I don't like that blabbering before the login prompt.
Now my final question is that, can I surf the internet efficiently
through emacspeak?
Further more, I am a python developer and I know emacs has a python mode
for the said language.
So I will be interested to know if emacspeak will give any support for
such modes.
What I mean is if emacspeak is good with auto complete etc.
Happy hacking.
Krishnakant.
Burt Henry
start-up manager in system/administration menu... main tab....OK, it is
called show txt during boot/the last option before help on the boot
options tab.
uncheck this and you should not hear if things are loading correctly or
not. I*'d not recommend this for most ppl, because if you have an Orca
issue, you may not know that things are indeed loading and when you can
start entering your password, but if you are bothered buy it...
Also, are you running an old version of Ubuntu? I thought some version
of espeak 1.4 has been in the package since 3.0 first came out? espeak
1.4.x versions have been around for more than a year, maybe two/don't
remember.
How about the sonic packages, and espeaks latest test versions? Are
there any major or minor but bothersome issues with these, or should
most ppl be fine trying them?
Take care.
B.H.
hackingKK
Actually I thought Orca is the one reading the login prompt and every
thing about checking battery status etc is done by speakup.
Right now what happens with my machine is that speaksup starts teling
what is happening at boot time.
Before speakup is done reading, in comes Orca saying "login window".
So both of them clash and create a lot of chatter.
All that I will need is to let orca tell me that login window has come.
happy hacking.
Krishnakant.
Alex Midence
I'm running Vinux 3.0 off a dvd .iso not a cd inside vmware. Espeak
was 1.3 till I upgraded it. further, it would not upgrade itself
until I activated the vinux test repository for Lucid.
As for the new sonic packages, newest ones I have are whatever ones
were there shortly after Bill announced them. It was pure coincidence
that they fixed the espeak issues in emacspeak. I am not even sure
how they do. All I know is that when I start from the .iso image, and
I installemacspeak 32, end of line and end of link syllables are
chopped off as well as char by char navigation being impossible due to
a similar issue. Installing the sonic libraries showed some
improvement. Upgrading to espeak 1.4 showed some improvement. It
wasn't until about my fourth or fifth broken installation of my
virtual machine and about six pages of swearing and several bouts of
desk banging that I hit upon the million dollar combination of
updating espeak and putting in the sonic libraries that everything
worked goo. If there are new packages, I will leave it to someone
else to say how they are doing. I'm leaving my install the devil
alone this time. Have been meaning to download and create a vm with
the 3.1 dvd version but haven't gotten around to it. I started to
download it last week when it was hot off the proverbial press,
canceled so it wouldn't hold up the mirroring process and just got
caught up doing a bunch of other things. The wife and I are expecting
again and she is "nesting" in very most ernest. while this is going
on ... well, here, I'll say it in code:
while (wife_nesting = true)
{
husband_sweating = true;
level = profuse;
if (honey_Do_list > 0; furniture_position_decent = true;
husband_wanting_rest = true)
{
husband = mule;
mule_instructions = hop-to-it-buddy;
}
}
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hackingKK
But I am getting one basic problem with the setup.
I am getting emacspeak version 23 when I do the sudo apt-get install
with the packages you listed.
And it also says sonic is already the newest package.
I have activated the vinux testing repositories and did not disturb any
other settings.
Can you tell me what could be wrong?
Happy hacking.
Krishnakant.
Burt Henry
package is 3.2
The emacspeak installer-3.2 installes emacs 23..newest version.
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hackingKK
Sorry to bother you guys with some thing fundamental.
But this time when I ran the apt-get install command, I don't get espeak
listed in the speech synthesizer selection menu that comes during
emacspeak setup.
Any thing I might be missing out?And by the way I out of frustration
also tryed to do it with gnome-terminal.
I want to know if it makes any difference to do emacspeak setup from
terminal vs console?
Happy hacking.
Krishnakant.
Alex Midence
to is espeak. First, answer me this:
When you load Emacspeak, is it chopping off syllables? If it isn't,
you don't need to do anything else. Is it talking at all? If not,
espeak didn't get loaded as default synth.
Either run it with the hyphen e flag "emacspeak -e" to tell it to load
with espeak or, you will need to do an emacspeak --reconfigure to run
the configuration wizard again to make sure you picked espeak as the
speech synth.
If it is talking and you are getting choppy final syllables. You may
have to go into synaptic and find espeak 1.4. That happened to me
once. I think it's because it's a test package? Not sure. But, I
ended up having to go into synaptic and grab it. It was like espeak
1.4 with tildes. When you encounter it, right click it with orca and
see if it is already installed. If not, mark it for installation.
Just be aware that when you do and you reinstall it. You will need to
run restorespeech because speakup and orca will begin to spout off
gibberish. See my final steps in my prior e-mail. Honestly though,
it sounds like you are already all set. Important thing is, does
emacspeak come up talking and when you control n down the page
containing the links to the emacs tutorials and manuals, do you hear
the voice cutting off? If not, you don't have to do anything else.
Just play with it and learn the application. If you do, then espeak
is not the most current, regardless of what it says. I almost wish I
could package what I have done for you so you don't have to do this
all yourself.
Regards,
Alex M
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I don't get any sound in emacspeak, even with the -e option.
I had guesed so because I did not get espeak as an option to be selected
during setup.
I don't know what I am missing.
Happy hacking.
Krishnakant.
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Please see my responses below your questions:
On 12/15/10, D.J.J. Ring, Jr. <n1...@arrl.net> wrote:
> Hello Alex,
>
> Have you installed speechd? I don't know if emacspeak correcctly installs
> that.
>Never came up. I never had much trouble getting it to talk with espeak. Even if, by some fluke dectalk still got picked as speech server, I could always use the -e flag or, if it came to it, the --reconfigure flag. The first loaded easpeak and the second brought up the wizard. Even got it working with eflite once but the voice was so bad I got rid of it immediately.
> I had to install and uninstall emacspeak several times before I got it
> working without Voxin. Even with voxin I had to uninstall it and then try
> again.
>
> Once it is running it is no problem!
>
Amen to that, brother. It was a royal beat down before I landed on
the magic combination that worked for me. Almost gave up on it three
or four times. Now, I don't want to touch ANYTHING to do with espeak
or speech dispatcher or any of that for fear of screwing it up. Orca
is a sinch to get going but Emacspeak is a pain. So worth it though.
Finally made progress eysterday. f10 is my best friend! Actually
wrote some code. Neat how the caps have taht little clink telling you
it's uper case and the pitch goes up. Makes reading thorugh c++
source code a more efficient proposition than what I'm used to. I
hardly miss the braille, even which I never thought I'd say.
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D.J.J. Ring, Jr.
Alex Midence
Do you know how I might package the installation of emacspeak I was
able to get working with espeak properly enunciating? I don't know
how to go about such a thing and this way people like Hacking K K
don't have to go through these kinds of ordeals. I feel terrible that
he has has so many problems and feel partly responsible.
alex M
On 12/15/10, D.J.J. Ring, Jr. <n1...@arrl.net> wrote:
D.J.J. Ring, Jr.
The next time I install emacspeak and espeak I will make a note of what I did to get it working.
99% of the time, it works as soon as you install emacspeak from the Ubuntu repository.
However, I have also found out that at times I have to grab the subversion and install that because some files are missing.
What I find is a good thing to do is to do a build-dep of both emacs and emacspeak before getting them from the repository.
I find that the voxin / emacspeak installer is SO much easier that it is worth the $5.00 it costs just to buy Voxin to get emacspeak set up automatically!
What I find very difficult is setting up Voxin with Debian - for some reason it always takes me a few days to do it. With Ubuntu i wrote down the steps I took and put them into the Vinux Wiki and with the help of others who have corrected a few small errors, it reportedly works very well.
Best wishes,
DR
hackingKK
I am a hacker too, although not doing a lot at the shell.
I am a Python programmer and no matter what I do know about commandline
stuff.
The only problem is that some times we do all things right but still we
don't get results like those got by the person who suggests us to do
things in a certain way.
I know how to make deb packages, but IMHO emacs and emacspeak is a
complex system to deal with.
So if some one could make a package that just works out of the box with
emacspeak and espeak working, then it will be a great thing to have.
Happy hacking.
Krishnakant.