No problem, Mark,
you are doing fine! I downloaded that speakup script of Zahari's to try
on Fedora, but haven't done anything with it yet. I have Fedora 25
server on a box, I'd like to make talk. I have a live Fedora 25 which
speaks, and orca is installed on it.
I still try to do things with my dwindling sight, have an assortment of
magnifiers, and can work fine in Unity.
I seemed to be able to manage debian on my normal box, with Gnome.
Fedora has Gnome, but I didn't like it at all on a secondary box with a
smaller screen, need to give it a run on my normal.
I guess I'll get used to Gnome/mate eventually..Sigh. this from a bloke
who wanted nothing to do with Unity when Vinux moved away from Gnome.
Bill