Orca settings on Vinux 5 images

[Rob Whyte]

Since we started carrying our own Orca package in Vinux 5 archives we
modify some of the settings as shown below:
enable Mouse Review
enable Tutorial Messages
enable Mnemonic Speaking
present ToolTips
enable Echo By Word

My question is to testing members do any of you notice any regression if
these settings are changed.
For me I turn most of them off but we decided they are good defaults.
How ever quite frequently I am noticing that they enable just out of the
blue.
FOr example I have key echo by word at the moment but I did not enable
it, in fact I have turned it off three times this morning already.
Also I notice sometimes when exitting Orca preferences that the speech
rate returns to default but when I go back in to the Orca voice
preferences the slider is on my speed, I move it left or right one
percentage point and the correct speed is restored.
Note I am using Voxin but have confirmed this for two days on this
install from last week using Espeak before I installed Voxin again.
Also I am using a mixture of our Orca package and sometimes Orca master
which they are very close to being the same, but notice behaviour on
both instances.
Feedback welcome.
Thanks
Rob

[kendell clark]

hi
I've just booted up my vinux 5 image and it seems to work fine. I can't
test mouse review, and the tooltips don't seem to read except when
hovered over with a mouse, but changing them seems to work. I tested by
disabling echo by word and then changing the rate.
Thanks
Kendell clark

[Rob Whyte]

Hi Kendell,
Thanks for the reply, keep using it with those settings turned off and
see if you happen to notice any regression.

Thanks
Rob

[B. Henry]

Forgive me if a message from me made it to the group, but I think that did not happen/lost power in middle of sending my original reply.
I've seen the voice rate issue you mention, but think not with this latest orca version, might have happend with the one before it, 3.17.91 I think it
was.
I did have trouble with thunderbird messages not displaying correctly , but all's well with current orca version.
In my case the rate regression did not persist, might have only happened once with recent vinux5, and after a reboot orca settings for sure stuck,
(persisted is probably a clearer word here).
I remember a nice system monitor indicator you asked ppl to test some months back.
I think it would be good to include on images, but if that is not going to happen could you please share the repo and package name?
Will keep my ears atuned for any extra orca verbosity or settings that revert to an earlier state.




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kendell clark wrote:
Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 07:53:51PM -0500

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[Rob Whyte]

Hi,
it's basically the same yeah.
Are you using a Vinux system on a regular basis Burt?

As for system monitor I do not know, maybe dig in mail archives to check
name and see if it is still good.

Thanks
Rob

[B. Henry]

I'm splitting my computing time between Vinux Debian and Arch/arch being the work machine, but with out that much payed work that means I have time to
use the other distros.
I check for updates daily, but have not been testing so much gnome and mate/will start booting in to one or the other of those instead of unity for the
next few days.
We only talked about that indicator on irc as far as I remember, but hopefully I'm forgetting an email...

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Rob Whyte wrote:
Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 12:23:04PM +1000

[Rob Whyte]

Hi,
you might mean indicator-multiload ?
Description:
Graphical system load indicator for CPU, ram, etc.
A system load indicator capable of displaying graphs for CPU, ram, and swap
space use, plus network traffic.

cheers

[B. Henry]

Yes!
That is it!
Thank you/will grab that right now.

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Rob Whyte wrote:

Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 12:52:37PM +1000

[Zahari Yurukov]

Hi,
Actually, the one which was included in Vinux 5 alpha images was
syspeak, but that one is its fork or vise versa - they look almost
exactly the same, but are from different authors and have a little
different items in the menu, also a little different settings.
Syspeak has CPU, Memory, SWAP, Disk, Network: recieving, sending, total
recieved and total send. It shows used memory and total memory for the
different memory types.
Indicator-multiload has CPU and I/O rate, Memory and cache, Network
upload/download, SWAP, Load and Disk read/write.

I don't know wether syspeak is still available though - it looks like
it's original repository is gone, so Indicator-multiload looks like as a
good replacement. There are also some GNOME plugins which could show the
same information, but not at the same place and across desktops, so I
think Indicator-multiload looks better for Vinux.

Best wishes,
Zahari

[Rob Whyte]

Thank you Zahari for your very detailed reply.
I will try to find sys peak and compare them again

Kind regards
Rob

[B. Henry]

I don't think I ever got the image or images with that one, but did try multiload, probably about a year ago when Rob mentioned it on IRC one day.
There's a mate applett that shows some of this kind of stuf as I recall, and I suspect the gnome equivalent will only work on gnome.
That is a minor compllication when dealing with multiple desktop environments on one system, but easily dealt with in start up apps or what ever the
desktop being used calls this.
After official release and the first wave of downloads has subcided and people have had a couple of months of using vinux5 it'd be interesting to post a
short survey to see which desktops are getting the most use, and perhaps check on some other software prefferences.
I forget whether or notVinux popularity contest data can be accessed by it self, i.e. not as part of the big Ubuntu trusty picture, but I've been
meaning to start an ongoing series of vinux user surveys anyway/will try and get to this pretty soon.

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Zahari Yurukov wrote:
Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 03:19:49PM +0300

[B. Henry]

Working very nicely as I remember it did,/think this would be very worth including in images.
Anyone have tips for setting up the weather indicator? I type in my location, and find what I want in short list of options, but can't seem to save
it...
This was never easy, and I just copied settings from one vinux4 to another installation probablly, but I never remember it being like this, i.e. no save
or OK button, and when I close the setup window setup is all that is seen in the actual indicator still.
I don't see anything with flat review, ideas?

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Rob Whyte wrote:

Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 12:52:37PM +1000