Changing the shape of the cursor.

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André Scholz

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Mar 28, 2009, 8:02:01 AM3/28/09
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Hello,

as many others, i was interested in changing the cursor shape. For KDE4
and GNOME i found these solutions:

In KDE4 : Put

<code>
let &t_SI = "\<Esc>]50;CursorShape=1\x7"
let &t_EI = "\<Esc>]50;CursorShape=0\x7"
</code>

into your vimrc.

In GNOME 2.26 : Put

<code>
if has("autocmd")
au InsertEnter * silent execute "!gconftool-2 --type string
--set /apps/gnome-terminal/profiles/Default/cursor_shape ibeam"

au InsertLeave * silent execute "!gconftool-2 --type string
--set /apps/gnome-terminal/profiles/Default/cursor_shape block"

au VimLeave * silent execute "!gconftool-2 --type string
--set /apps/gnome-terminal/profiles/Default/cursor_shape ibeam"
endif
</code>

into your vimrc. (In case they get wrapped in this post: these are five
lines.) If you use more than one profile in gnome-terminal, you might
have to tweak this a little.

Have a nice day,
André


Kazuo Teramoto

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Mar 29, 2009, 3:41:48 PM3/29/09
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I have a working solution for urxvt (using a |-cursor shape, but you
lose the underline cursor for a | cursor, or you can use a _ cursor)
if someone want it send me a mail and I put it all together tomorrow.

--
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Marie Sklodowska Curie.

André Scholz

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Mar 30, 2009, 1:51:07 PM3/30/09
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I wrote a wiki entry at

http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Change_cursor_shape_in_different_modes

Maybe you can add urxvt to it.

Have a nice day.
André

Matt Wozniski

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Mar 30, 2009, 8:20:44 PM3/30/09
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On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 8:02 AM, André Scholz wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> as many others, i was interested in changing the cursor shape. For KDE4
> and GNOME i found these solutions:
>
> In KDE4 : Put
>
> <code>
>  let &t_SI = "\<Esc>]50;CursorShape=1\x7"
>  let &t_EI = "\<Esc>]50;CursorShape=0\x7"
> </code>
>
> into your vimrc.

That won't play nicely with gnu screen, or with dvtm, or any of the
other terminal multiplexers out there...

> In GNOME 2.26 : Put
>
> <code>
> if has("autocmd")
>  au InsertEnter * silent execute "!gconftool-2 --type string
> --set /apps/gnome-terminal/profiles/Default/cursor_shape ibeam"
>
>  au InsertLeave * silent execute "!gconftool-2 --type string
> --set /apps/gnome-terminal/profiles/Default/cursor_shape block"
>
>  au VimLeave * silent execute "!gconftool-2 --type string
> --set /apps/gnome-terminal/profiles/Default/cursor_shape ibeam"
> endif
> </code>
>
> into your vimrc. (In case they get wrapped in this post: these are five
> lines.) If you use more than one profile in gnome-terminal, you might
> have to tweak this a little.

Unless I'm misunderstanding something, this would not only work
improperly when combined with tools like screen and dvtm, but also -
when you have multiple terminals open it would change the cursor shape
in all of them!

~Matt

Greg

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Apr 2, 2009, 9:11:36 AM4/2/09
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André Scholz a écrit :

> I wrote a wiki entry at
>
> http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Change_cursor_shape_in_different_modes
>
> Maybe you can add urxvt to it.
>

Thank you!
Any solution for konsole KDE3 ? none works :-/

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Greg

John Beckett

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Apr 2, 2009, 6:58:53 PM4/2/09
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Greg wrote:
>> http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Change_cursor_shape_in_different_modes

>
> Thank you!
> Any solution for konsole KDE3 ? none works :-/

That reminds me ... I just added Matt's comments to the tip,
where he says it will give trouble with screen and dvtm.

Please update the tip with any developments.

John

Matt Wozniski

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Apr 3, 2009, 2:09:32 AM4/3/09
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And that reminds *me*... unless I'm mistaken, both the gnome-terminal
tip and the konsole tip will have problems with multiple tabs.

~Matt

dots

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Apr 7, 2009, 5:18:31 AM4/7/09
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what is the `control sequence' or `terminfo' to change the curosr
shape in gnome-terminal?

pansz

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Apr 7, 2009, 7:49:18 AM4/7/09
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André Scholz 写道:

> Hello,
>
> as many others, i was interested in changing the cursor shape. For KDE4
> and GNOME i found these solutions:
>
> In KDE4 : Put
>
> In GNOME 2.26 : Put
>

As we know KDE and GNOME are two most popular Linux desktop environments
and the terminal emulator included is there.

However, I use different computers, they have KDE or GNOME, and I often
need to use vim in remote ssh sessions, such as open the GNOME terminal
locally and ssh to a remote computer which has KDE.

Any one knows how to check in .vimrc whether I'm in KDE4 Konsole or in
GNOME terminal in a remote ssh session?

pansz

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Apr 7, 2009, 7:56:29 AM4/7/09
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Matt Wozniski 写道:

> On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 8:02 AM, André Scholz wrote:
>> Hello,
>> In KDE4 : Put

> That won't play nicely with gnu screen, or with dvtm, or any of the
> other terminal multiplexers out there...

That's not a big problem for gnu screen, since we've got &term=='screen'
in screen and &term=='xterm' in konsole. I can enable the sequences only
for &term=='xterm'.

The problem is: too many terminal emulators claims to be &term=='xterm'
while they are not identical. It would be much better if there's a way
to know the exact terminal emulator program name in .vimrc.

Dennis Benzinger

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Apr 7, 2009, 7:55:05 AM4/7/09
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Hi!

Am 07.04.2009 13:49, pansz schrieb:
> [...]


> Any one knows how to check in .vimrc whether I'm in KDE4 Konsole or in
> GNOME terminal in a remote ssh session?

> [...]

I don't know if it works with SSH put you can query the COLORTERM
environment variable:

:echo $COLORTERM

Gnome Terminal sets it to gnome-terminal. I don't know what Konsole does.


HTH,
Dennis Benzinger

Matt Wozniski

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Apr 7, 2009, 8:31:51 AM4/7/09
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On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 7:56 AM, pansz wrote:
>
> Matt Wozniski 写道:
>> On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 8:02 AM, André Scholz wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>> In KDE4 : Put
>> That won't play nicely with gnu screen, or with dvtm, or any of the
>> other terminal multiplexers out there...
>
> That's not a big problem for gnu screen, since we've got &term=='screen'
> in screen and &term=='xterm' in konsole. I can enable the sequences only
> for &term=='xterm'.

Well, as I said later, it also might not play nicely with multiple
tabs, or even multiple terminals (at least, the suggest gnome-terminal
version wouldn't, not sure about the suggested konsole version).

> The problem is: too many terminal emulators claims to be &term=='xterm'
> while they are not identical. It would be much better if there's a way
> to know the exact terminal emulator program name in .vimrc.

Set up the terminal emulator to send something more correct; any sane
terminal emulator should let you. It's perfectly common to set up
xterm to set TERM=xterm-256color, to set up konsole to set
TERM=konsole-256color, to set up screen to set TERM=screen-256color,
etc... Unfortunately, to the best of my knowledge gnome-terminal
fails this sanity test - I know of no way to get it to set $TERM to
the correct value (gnome-256color) without patching the source and
recompiling.

~Matt

Tony Mechelynck

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Apr 7, 2009, 7:26:11 PM4/7/09
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On my system it doesn't set it. Anyway, I suppose that a value of
"gnome-terminal" would be rather characteristic. Remains to be seen how
to tell xterm apart from konsole. From v:termresponse maybe? Let's see
what I get:

konsole... ^[[0;115;0c
xterm... ^[[0;236;0c
gnome-terminal... ^[[1;1704;0c

(where the initial ^[ is an "escape" character) so the results are
indeed different, but I don't think the criterion can be ported to an
unknown system (I mean, you need to make the experiment separately for
each installation -- and it may change if you upgrade one of these
packages).


Best regards,
Tony.
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pansz

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Apr 7, 2009, 9:25:53 PM4/7/09
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Tony Mechelynck 写道:

> On my system it doesn't set it. Anyway, I suppose that a value of
> "gnome-terminal" would be rather characteristic. Remains to be seen how
> to tell xterm apart from konsole. From v:termresponse maybe? Let's see
> what I get:
>
> konsole... ^[[0;115;0c
> xterm... ^[[0;236;0c
> gnome-terminal... ^[[1;1704;0c
>
> (where the initial ^[ is an "escape" character) so the results are
> indeed different, but I don't think the criterion can be ported to an
> unknown system

It seems work, but we may need to do some regexp matching...


Let's see what I get:

konsole1... ^[[0;115;0c
konsole2... ^[[0;115;0c
xterm... ^[[0;239;0c
gnome-terminal... ^[[1;1613;0c
xfce4-terminal... ^[[1;1613;0c
screen... (nothing)

So the number may not be exactly the same, while we should tell
differences between konsole and gnome-terminal anyway. While the konsole
in KDE3 and KDE4 returns the same value, which is somewhat undesirable.

Thomas Dickey

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Apr 8, 2009, 7:27:16 AM4/8/09
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On Apr 7, 9:25 pm, pansz <panshi...@routon.com> wrote:
> Tony Mechelynck 写道:
>
> > On my system it doesn't set it. Anyway, I suppose that a value of
> > "gnome-terminal" would be rather characteristic. Remains to be seen how
> > to tellxtermapart from konsole. From v:termresponse maybe? Let's see
> > what I get:
>
> > konsole...             ^[[0;115;0c
> >xterm...               ^[[0;236;0c
> > gnome-terminal...      ^[[1;1704;0c
>
> > (where the initial ^[ is an "escape" character) so the results are
> > indeed different, but I don't think the criterion can be ported to an
> > unknown system
>
> It seems work, but we may need to do some regexp matching...
> Let's see what I get:
>
>   konsole1...            ^[[0;115;0c
>   konsole2...            ^[[0;115;0c

The 115 was copied from one of xterm's strings.
gnome terminal copied it around the same time, but
at a later point added a digit. Since then, the
trail's grown indistinct (gnome developers as a
matter of practice, do not document their changes
very well ;-)

>  xterm...               ^[[0;239;0c
>   gnome-terminal...      ^[[1;1613;0c
>   xfce4-terminal...      ^[[1;1613;0c
>   screen...              (nothing)
>
> So the number may not be exactly the same, while we should tell
> differences between konsole and gnome-terminal anyway. While the konsole
> in KDE3 and KDE4 returns the same value, which is somewhat undesirable.

The "1" in gnome-terminal's response would claim that
it emulates a vt220. It only implements enough of
a subset to be a nuisance when one tries to use it
as a vt220 (on VMS for instance). One of gnome-terminal's
bug reports pointed that out, and the advice given there
was to change the response to fix the bug. (The developer
failed to comprehend the advice - it's apparent in his
response ;-).

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