Typing accents
Alessandro Antonello
Yesterday I download and install the new Vim version 7.3 and I started facing
some kind of problem when typing accent characters like single quote, double
quote, tilde, back tick and circunflex. The problem seams randomly because I
didn't get how is the logical sequence yet.
I am using Windows XP SP3 and my LANG environment variable is setted as
'en_US' (my Windows is in English) but my locale on Windows is Brazilian
Portuguese. I use a US international keyboard layout so to type those
characters I need two keystrokes: ("<Space>) for the double quote,
('<Space>) for single quote, (~<Space>) for tilde, (`<Space>) for back tick
and (^<Space>) for circunflex.
To me it seams that Vim/gVim is expecting some accented character after the
accent and completly ignoring the <space> key. I saw that after the <space> if
I type any other key except the <backspace> the accent character is printed.
For example, if I type the following sequence:
"<Space>" - the output is: ""
"<Space><Backspace><space><Space>a - the output is: ä
So the accent is kept in the imput buffer until another key is pressed. But
spaces and backspaces are ignored.
What I tried to do was chaging my vimrc and gvimrc to not load any of my
mappings or functions. No effect. I also try loading vim without any plugin
using the command line -u NONE. Also no effect.
Some one has an idea about what is happening?
Thanks in advance,
Alessandro Antonello
Dog Walker
bill lam
Does it work if type the character twice, eg "" '' ``
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If typed twice they appear twice. The first character is kept in the
input buffer, when the second is typed vim/gvim prints both. The same
happens if you type different sequences like "' (double quote followed
by single quote), or ^` (circumflex followed by back tick). Just
doesn't work the way always worked. I mean, not all the times, the
problem seams ramdonly, appearing most of times, but not all.
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Tony Mechelynck
This sounds typical of a mapping. Try
:verbose map "
:verbose map! "
:verbose lmap "
(you may try entering the double-quote as Ctrl-V followed by 034 to
bypass the possible mapping). (Use Ctrl-Q instead of Ctrl-V if your
Ctrl-V is remapped to the paste operation.)
Another possibility is locale conflict. I'm not sure what you mean by
saying "$LANG is en_US but my locale is Brazilian Portuguese". When you
start Vim as
vim -u NONE
or
gvim -u NONE
what does it reply to
:language ctype
? I imagine any of the following as possible, but I think they are not
equivalent. Some are more "Windows-like", others are more "Unix-like",
and I don't think that all of them will "actually work" on a single
computer system:
en_US
en_US.UTF-8
English_United States
English_United States.1252
English_United States.10646
pt_BR
pt_BR.UTF-8
Portuguese_Brazil
Portuguese_Brazil.1252
Portuguese_Brazil.10646
(If Vim tells you that your ctype language is "English_United" without
"States" then something has gone wrong somewhere.)
Best regards,
Tony.
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Alessandro Antonello
Sorry for the delay to answer. I actually downgrade my Vim to 7.2 again. I am
in a project dead line and could not stop to check this issue. I'm planning to
do that the next weekend.
> This sounds typical of a mapping. Try
>
> :verbose map "
> :verbose map! "
> :verbose lmap "
>
> (you may try entering the double-quote as Ctrl-V followed by 034 to bypass
> the possible mapping). (Use Ctrl-Q instead of Ctrl-V if your Ctrl-V is
> remapped to the paste operation.)
I tried that when first saw the issue. Those commands output nothing. By the
way, in the command line typing any of the characters ", ', ~, or ^ DOES work
fine.
> Another possibility is locale conflict. I'm not sure what you mean by saying
> "$LANG is en_US but my locale is Brazilian Portuguese". When you start Vim
> as
>
> vim -u NONE
> or
> gvim -u NONE
>
> what does it reply to
>
> :language ctype
>
> ? I imagine any of the following as possible, but I think they are not
> equivalent. Some are more "Windows-like", others are more "Unix-like", and I
> don't think that all of them will "actually work" on a single computer
> system:
>
> en_US
> en_US.UTF-8
> English_United States
> English_United States.1252
> English_United States.10646
> pt_BR
> pt_BR.UTF-8
> Portuguese_Brazil
> Portuguese_Brazil.1252
> Portuguese_Brazil.10646
>
> (If Vim tells you that your ctype language is "English_United" without
> "States" then something has gone wrong somewhere.)
I though that too, I use a environment variable LANG setted as en_US so that
some applications doesn't get translated automatically. Some translations are
really bad. The first release of Vim 7.2 had an issue about the mode messages
in the command window when translated to Portuguese. Specifically with accented
characters and cedilla. Because of that I put in my _vimrc the command
'language en_US'. This was actually removed and only the 'LANG' environment
variable was enough to prevent Vim from translate the menus and messages. By
the way the current output of 'language ctype' is "C".
In a last try I put only the 7.3 binaries in the folder where I have the 7.2
version. The problems seams to be gone which lead me to think that this
problem resides in one script or plugin in the new release. But I can't say
this for sure. I will try to solve this in the next weekend.
Thanks a lot for your help.
Regards,
Alessandro Antonello