[vim/vim] Farewall to Bram and dedicate upcoming Vim 9.1 to him (PR #12749)

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  • 025db31 Dedicate upcoming Vim 9.1 to Bram


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Yegappan Lakshmanan

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In runtime/doc/version9.txt:

> @@ -43,6 +43,17 @@ when the release was being prepared.  Sven was a long time supporter of Vim.
 He registered the vim.org domain and created the first Vim website.  We will
 remember him!
 
+							*Bram-Moolenaar* *Bram*
+Vim version 9.1 is dedicated to Bram Moolenaar, who passed away August 3rd 2023

"who passed away on"?


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In runtime/doc/version9.txt:

> @@ -43,6 +43,17 @@ when the release was being prepared.  Sven was a long time supporter of Vim.
 He registered the vim.org domain and created the first Vim website.  We will
 remember him!
 
+							*Bram-Moolenaar* *Bram*
+Vim version 9.1 is dedicated to Bram Moolenaar, who passed away August 3rd 2023

I would suggest "who passed away August 3rd, 2023". The "on" is optional to my (non-native) eyes.


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Christian Brabandt

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  • 5c87ad8 Dedicate upcoming Vim 9.1 to Bram

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Christian Brabandt

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I have slightly updated it according to the suggestions, and replaced Brams email address in a few more places (e.g. the license and for reporting bugs). Hope you all find that okay.


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In runtime/doc/version9.txt:

> @@ -43,6 +43,17 @@ when the release was being prepared.  Sven was a long time supporter of Vim.
 He registered the vim.org domain and created the first Vim website.  We will
 remember him!
 
+							*Bram-Moolenaar* *Bram*
+Vim version 9.1 is dedicated to Bram Moolenaar, who passed away August 3rd 2023

You mean adding "," between the date and the year?


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In runtime/doc/version9.txt:

> @@ -43,6 +43,17 @@ when the release was being prepared.  Sven was a long time supporter of Vim.
 He registered the vim.org domain and created the first Vim website.  We will
 remember him!
 
+							*Bram-Moolenaar* *Bram*
+Vim version 9.1 is dedicated to Bram Moolenaar, who passed away August 3rd 2023

@k-takata he means remove the word "on"


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Christian Brabandt

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  • de3f65f Remove Bram from any Maintainer role

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K.Takata

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In runtime/autoload/ccomplete.vim:

> +# Maintainer: The Vim Project <https://github.com/vim/vim>
+# Former Maintainer:   Bram Moolenaar <Br...@vim.org>
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-# Maintainer: The Vim Project <https://github.com/vim/vim>
-# Former Maintainer:   Bram Moolenaar <Br...@vim.org>
+# Maintainer:   The Vim Project <https://github.com/vim/vim>
+# Former Maintainer: Bram Moolenaar <Br...@vim.org>

How about aligning "Language:", "Maintainer:" and "Last Change:"?
Not sure if "Former Maintainer:" should be also aligned.


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In runtime/doc/version9.txt:

> @@ -43,6 +43,17 @@ when the release was being prepared.  Sven was a long time supporter of Vim.
 He registered the vim.org domain and created the first Vim website.  We will
 remember him!
 
+							*Bram-Moolenaar* *Bram*
+Vim version 9.1 is dedicated to Bram Moolenaar, who passed away August 3rd 2023

English is not my native language. I suggest.

Vim version 9.1 is dedicated to Bram Moolenaar, who passed away on August 3rd 2023


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Christian Brabandt

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In runtime/autoload/ccomplete.vim:

> +# Maintainer: The Vim Project <https://github.com/vim/vim>
+# Former Maintainer:   Bram Moolenaar <Br...@vim.org>

okay, will adjust later.


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  • 3984169 it's mailing list not mailinglist

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are we okay including this?


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On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 7:47:20 AM UTC-4 Christian Brabandt wrote:
> +# Maintainer: The Vim Project <https://github.com/vim/vim>

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I’m curious, with “The Vim Project” pointing to github will contributions still be available via email patches to vim...@vim.org?

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say something in `readme` as well, and something may need modification too.

// bram used to announce something via vim_announce, (not much people in vim_dev for some reason seems e.g dup mails from itself and github), we may should keep that tradition as well.

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Christian Brabandt

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Am 2023-08-12 01:02, schrieb Devin Weaver:
> I’m curious, with “The Vim Project” pointing to github will
> contributions still be available via email patches to vim...@vim.org?

Yes we will accept patches sent to vim-dev.

However, creating PRs is prefered for the following reasons:
- it runs the CI test suite
- they do not get lost so easily
- you need to be subscribed to the vim-dev mailing list

Thanks,
Chris

Christian Brabandt

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Merged #12749 into master.


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@Christian you would modify readme.md for the contact of bram, and say something there, right?

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Yeah, should mention it there as well..ThanksAm 13.08.2023 um 11:33 schrieb Shane-XB-Qian ***@***.***>:
@Christian you would modify readme.md for the contact of bram, and say something there, right?

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In src/message.c:

> @@ -1114,7 +1114,7 @@ ex_messages(exarg_T *eap)
 	    msg_attr(
 		    // Translator: Please replace the name and email address
 		    // with the appropriate text for your translation.
-		    _("Messages maintainer: Bram Moolenaar <Br...@vim.org>"),
+		    _("Messages maintainer: The Vim Project"),

Maybe you should add an email address vim...@vim.org


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This change modified the Vim license file. I'm just assuming that's an ok thing to do (was previously going to ask about this on a separate discussion as license issues can be tricky), but wondering if this affects other things like the GitHub license detection (it still seems to work so far), and the spdx entry: https://spdx.org/licenses/Vim.html, as well as https://vim-license.dev/.

Pinging @othree who filed #5458 and also did a lot of work on getting the Vim license recognized.


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Thanks for pinging me, I can help to communicate and send the PR. There are two major repos we need to send PR:

  • SPDX
  • choosealicense, which is the source for license recognization.

But I think it will cause some issue if we change the text in choosealicense directly. Which will cause the existing repo uses the Vim license to become unrecognized. The ideal case is we have a new version of the license, such as Vim License 1.1. Then we didn't need to worry the existing repo affected. But it also will cause another issue. The choosealicense only accepts widely used license. Vim License 1.1 will be a new license and is not widely used at this moment. So there will be a period of time that GitHub won't recognize it.


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When you say "existing repo", do you mean this one itself (https://github.com/vim/vim/)? It seems like GitHub is still recognizing it despite this PR being merged already, but I wonder if there is a time delay in rescanning done by GitHub. If that's the case that means GitHub will soon stop recognizing the license?


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The "existing repo" means every repo uses Vim License such as "tpope/vim-pathogen". "vim/vim" is one of them. I will try to verify my assumption later(maybe next week). GitHub has a special cache for the result of license detection. So it is possible that the license result is not changed now. I am not sure when it will be invalid.


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I was a bit hesitant to change the license file directly, but I did not see any alternatives. Surely, just changing the maintainer line should be allowed and okay, since we did not touch the actual license clauses. But if you think of a different solution, please let me know.


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A quick update:

The Licensee can recognize the new version of the Vim License text

vim-license-licensee

The similarity is 98.45%. The threshold is 98%, so there is not much space for other differences. I will spend some time checking other projects using the Vim License and have the software name correctly modified. Currently, I feel positive about the results. It seems Licensee has a better algorithm to compare the license text with substitutions than before.

If the result is good. We don't need to worry about the existing software in the wild. We just need to:

  1. Discuss how to deal with this case with the SPDX
  2. Update the license text or create a new version of the license based on the answer of 1
  3. Update the license text on choosealicense.com if necessary


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that are good news, thanks!


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