version8.txt wrongly says that :wsverb command was added in vim-8.2

[Dominique Pellé]

Hi

In :help version-8.2 (section "Added commands")
I see that command :wsverb was added.
However, I don't see anything about :wsverb in
help files or in Vim source code.

It looks like a mistake in :help version-8.2.

The only thing I find is in version6.txt which says:

Added the :wsverb command to execute debugger commands.

But that must be deprecated since it was for
the Visual Workshop, which is removed.

Regards
Dominique

[Bram Moolenaar]

Right, it wasn't added, it was removed. I took a diff of the old and
the new list of commands, must have missed the reverse change.

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[John Little]

Just noticed that :help patches gives version8.txt, which lists all the patch descriptions since 7.4.1, 6,600 of them, but stops at 8.1.2424; there's no list for the 50 or so 8.2 patches. 

Now, version8.txt has become unwieldy; at 1.6 MB it's by far the largest file in the repo, and github grumbles about it:

    (Sorry about that, but we can’t show files that are this big right now.)

[Bram Moolenaar]

Complain at github?

I think it's nice to be able to search for changes, but perhaps we don't
need to keep it in the distribution. At least it's also on the ftp
server: https://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/vim/patches/8.1/

Opinions?

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[Christian Brabandt]

On Mo, 30 Dez 2019, Bram Moolenaar wrote:

>
> John Little wrote:
>
> > Just noticed that :help patches gives version8.txt, which lists all the
> > patch descriptions since 7.4.1, 6,600 of them, but stops at 8.1.2424;
> > there's no list for the 50 or so 8.2 patches.
> >
> > Now, version8.txt has become unwieldy; at 1.6 MB it's by far the largest
> > file in the repo, and github grumbles about it:
> >
> > (Sorry about that, but we can’t show files that are this big right now.)

Just click on raw.

>
> Complain at github?
>
> I think it's nice to be able to search for changes, but perhaps we don't
> need to keep it in the distribution. At least it's also on the ftp
> server: https://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/vim/patches/8.1/

I'd vote for keeping it.

Best,
Christian
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[John Little]

On Tuesday, December 31, 2019 at 12:18:01 AM UTC+13, Bram Moolenaar wrote:

>Opinions?

I agree the info is useful; I noticed because I didn't find the 8.2.00* patch details. 

Just as there is presently version4.txt, 5, 6, 7, I suggest version7.4.txt, version8.0.txt, version8.1.txt and version8.2.txt, since support for 8.3 filenames is no longer needed.

Separating the discussion about each significant release from the list of patches would be sensible too. I imagine that would make maintaining them easier.

Regards, John Little

[Christian Brabandt]

On Mo, 30 Dez 2019, Bram Moolenaar wrote:

>

> John Little wrote:
>
> > Just noticed that :help patches gives version8.txt, which lists all the
> > patch descriptions since 7.4.1, 6,600 of them, but stops at 8.1.2424;
> > there's no list for the 50 or so 8.2 patches.
> >
> > Now, version8.txt has become unwieldy; at 1.6 MB it's by far the largest
> > file in the repo, and github grumbles about it:
> >
> > (Sorry about that, but we can’t show files that are this big right now.)
>
> Complain at github?
>
> I think it's nice to be able to search for changes, but perhaps we don't
> need to keep it in the distribution. At least it's also on the ftp
> server: https://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/vim/patches/8.1/
>
> Opinions?

I just noticed, that version8.txt contains all patches from version 7.4
as well.

So how about moving all patch descriptions from Version 7.4 onwards to
version7.txt?

Best,
Christian
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[Dominique Pellé]

Christian Brabandt <cbl...@256bit.org> wrote:

> On Mo, 30 Dez 2019, Bram Moolenaar wrote:
>
> >
> > John Little wrote:
> >
> > > Just noticed that :help patches gives version8.txt, which lists all the
> > > patch descriptions since 7.4.1, 6,600 of them, but stops at 8.1.2424;
> > > there's no list for the 50 or so 8.2 patches.
> > >
> > > Now, version8.txt has become unwieldy; at 1.6 MB it's by far the largest
> > > file in the repo, and github grumbles about it:
> > >
> > > (Sorry about that, but we can’t show files that are this big right now.)
> >
> > Complain at github?
> >
> > I think it's nice to be able to search for changes, but perhaps we don't
> > need to keep it in the distribution. At least it's also on the ftp
> > server: https://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/vim/patches/8.1/
> >
> > Opinions?
>
> I just noticed, that version8.txt contains all patches from version 7.4
> as well.
>
> So how about moving all patch descriptions from Version 7.4 onwards to
> version7.txt?

That would be wrong. There was no version 7.5.
So the first stable release which includes patches 7.4.*
is Vim-8.

Dominique

[Bram Moolenaar]

Christian wrote:

> > John Little wrote:
> >
> > > Just noticed that :help patches gives version8.txt, which lists all the
> > > patch descriptions since 7.4.1, 6,600 of them, but stops at 8.1.2424;
> > > there's no list for the 50 or so 8.2 patches.
> > >
> > > Now, version8.txt has become unwieldy; at 1.6 MB it's by far the largest
> > > file in the repo, and github grumbles about it:
> > >
> > > (Sorry about that, but we can’t show files that are this big right now.)
> >
> > Complain at github?
> >
> > I think it's nice to be able to search for changes, but perhaps we don't
> > need to keep it in the distribution. At least it's also on the ftp
> > server: https://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/vim/patches/8.1/
> >
> > Opinions?
>
> I just noticed, that version8.txt contains all patches from version 7.4
> as well.
>
> So how about moving all patch descriptions from Version 7.4 onwards to
> version7.txt?

We have always mentioned the fixes that leads up to a release at that
release. All the changes on top of 7.4 is what made Vim 8.0. It would
be confusing to change that now.

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