cost of a Burning Man trip
John Stoner
One question I'm getting a lot: how much will it cost? They're young, lots of college students, lots marginally employed, one a government employee. It look ambitious to them.
I know a lot depends on what you do once you get there. What's a good baseline answer? They mostly want to make it a road trip. I think I spent a few hundred on camping gear the first year I went, less the second. But my casual sense of 'a few hundred bucks' is not going to help them budget this.
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From from the Arizona board. The eligibility has been extended t anyo anyone east of the Mississippi.
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Attention!
Are you from the east coast?
Wanna go to Burning Man?
Don't think you'll get the $$ together?
Ever wish the Burning Man org would think of travel expenses when giving out their low income/scholarship tix?
Do you REALLY like to answer A LOT of ridiculous questions?
WELL THEN…..
Announcing the Official Cookieman Burning Man Scholarship!
This is NOT a joke or a prank!
i am very serious about my cookie...
i am very serious about my cookie scholarship...
Now accepting applications!
Here's the scoop:
We are sending one super awesome east coast would-be-burner-artist to the Burning Man Art Festival.
Ticket, travel cost, & supply funds up to…but not defiantly $1000!
REQUIERMENTS:
-you must be from the east coast or from farther away from the playa
than me. (NOTE: Jason lives in New Hampshire, but the scholarship has
been extended out to include anyone EAST of the Mississippi)
-you HAVE to answer the scientifically selected 1000 question application (heehee).
-that's it I think. Until I think of something else.
How do you start?
Email us at burntco...@hotmail.com
We will send you the application very quickly!
TELL YOUR FRIENDS AND YOUR FRIENDS' FRIENDS!!!!
PASS THIS ON WHERE EVER YOU LIKE...
Any questions? Email at the above address… thanks!
DEADLINE: APRIL 30!
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Who is the Cookieman and why is he giving away money?
In the fall of 2008 some guy brought 526 fresh baked chocolate chip
cookies to the Playa del Fuego festival in Odessa, Delaware. He
proceeded to make LOTS of friends giving them away all weekend. He
earned himself the name "Cookieman." In the spring of 2009 he and his
minions baked up 777 CCCs and gave them away at PDF. More friends were
made. This got Cookieman thinking. "Maybe I should sell these cookies
at my pizza shop" he said to himself. But Cookieman just couldn't bring
himself to charge people for the cookies…even at his pizza shop in far
away NH. "The cookies have been a gift and should remain a gift."
Somewhere in the summer of 2009 while planning his Burning Man trip
Cookieman got the idea to sell the cookies for $1.25 each and save the
$1 profit to go into a scholarship fund to send one lucky east coast
burner to Burning Man 2010! Thus making each cookie sold a most
fantastic gift!
The average cost of a burning man trip from the east coast is about
$1000. With ticket cost, flight, food, &supplies...it's easy to
spend that and more… trust us! So 1000cookies gets you $1000! So why
not 1000 questions on the application for this scholarship?
Yup…1000 questions! These questions were collected mostly at Burning
Man 2009 and at PDF Fall 2009 and some collected from friends and
relatives and anyone else that would pay attention. You can imagine the
`interesting' nature of some of these questions. Basically the only
requirement for a questions was that it end with a ? so yeah.. good
luck!
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Kathleen Ellis
Road tripping can be more expensive. Back when I was their age I did
Burning Man for (what I estimate now would be) around $1500. Buying plane
tickets about 6-8 weeks in advance usually hits a sweet spot for fares.
Pack as efficiently as possible, weigh the bags you're taking on the
plane in advance, ship artwork and some camping supplies out on the
container, and purchase food and water in Reno.
Investigate rideshare options from Reno to BRC. If they don't look viable
(they never have to me) compare the expense of driving to BRC vs. renting
a car for the duration of your stay there plus the air fare.
Somebody should make a spreadsheet for all this :)
On Wed, 20 Jan 2010, John Stoner wrote:
> I've been recruiting some friends to come out to the Burn this year. I'm
> very excited for them and I think they'll have a great time.
>
> One question I'm getting a lot: how much will it cost? They're young, lots
> of college students, lots marginally employed, one a government employee. It
> look ambitious to them.
>
> I know a lot depends on what you do once you get there. What's a good
> baseline answer? They mostly want to make it a road trip. I think I spent a
> few hundred on camping gear the first year I went, less the second. But my
> casual sense of 'a few hundred bucks' is not going to help them budget this.
>
>
>
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Kathleen Ellis
Yay Playa del Fuego people!! Them's my people!
On Thu, 21 Jan 2010, Christopher Breedlove wrote:
> I got forwarded this recently:
>
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>
> From from the Arizona board. The eligibility has been extended t anyo anyone
> east of the Mississippi.
>
> MJ
>
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>
> Attention!
> Are you from the east coast?
> Wanna go to Burning Man?
> Don't think you'll get the $$ together?
> Ever wish the Burning Man org would think of travel expenses when giving out
> their low income/scholarship tix?
> Do you REALLY like to answer A LOT of ridiculous questions?
> WELL THENů..
>
> Announcing the Official Cookieman Burning Man Scholarship!
>
> This is NOT a joke or a prank!
> i am very serious about my cookie...
> i am very serious about my cookie scholarship...
>
> Now accepting applications!
> Here's the scoop:
> We are sending one super awesome east coast would-be-burner-artist to the
> Burning Man Art Festival.
> Ticket, travel cost, & supply funds up toůbut not defiantly $1000!
> REQUIERMENTS:
> -you must be from the east coast or from farther away from the playa than
> me. (NOTE: Jason lives in New Hampshire, but the scholarship has been
> extended out to include anyone EAST of the Mississippi)
> -you HAVE to answer the scientifically selected 1000 question application
> (heehee).
> -that's it I think. Until I think of something else.
>
> How do you start?
> Email us at burntco...@hotmail.com <burntcookie2010%40hotmail.com>
>
> We will send you the application very quickly!
>
> TELL YOUR FRIENDS AND YOUR FRIENDS' FRIENDS!!!!
> PASS THIS ON WHERE EVER YOU LIKE...
>
> Any questions? Email at the above addressů thanks!
>
> DEADLINE: APRIL 30!
>
> **************************************************************
>
> Who is the Cookieman and why is he giving away money?
>
> In the fall of 2008 some guy brought 526 fresh baked chocolate chip cookies
> to the Playa del Fuego festival in Odessa, Delaware. He proceeded to make
> LOTS of friends giving them away all weekend. He earned himself the name
> "Cookieman." In the spring of 2009 he and his minions baked up 777 CCCs and
> gave them away at PDF. More friends were made. This got Cookieman thinking.
> "Maybe I should sell these cookies at my pizza shop" he said to himself. But
> Cookieman just couldn't bring himself to charge people for the cookiesůeven
> at his pizza shop in far away NH. "The cookies have been a gift and should
> remain a gift." Somewhere in the summer of 2009 while planning his Burning
> Man trip Cookieman got the idea to sell the cookies for $1.25 each and save
> the $1 profit to go into a scholarship fund to send one lucky east coast
> burner to Burning Man 2010! Thus making each cookie sold a most fantastic
> gift!
>
> The average cost of a burning man trip from the east coast is about $1000.
> With ticket cost, flight, food, &supplies...it's easy to spend that and
> moreů trust us! So 1000cookies gets you $1000! So why not 1000 questions on
> the application for this scholarship?
>
> Yupů1000 questions! These questions were collected mostly at Burning Man
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Jef
There are intangibles you should weigh into the formula as well. How well rested will you be after driving out there? To get there in the time we had allotted, we slept very little (like, 2 hours a day!) and ended up paying for it during the week of Burning Man by being dog tired almost the whole time we were there. I don't think I will do that again. Ever ever ever.
I understand many east coast Burners maintain permanent storage spaces for their gear in Reno. It can be cheaper if you are an annual burner to just keep BM gear there and duplicate your camping gear that you would use for conventional camping and other festivals.
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Kathleen Ellis
> Thanks Kathleen. I've wondered myself, after the aggravation of driving out
> there last year, whether we wouldn't have been much better off flying.
>
> There are intangibles you should weigh into the formula as well. How well
> rested will you be after driving out there? To get there in the time we had
> allotted, we slept very little (like, 2 hours a day!) and ended up paying
> for it during the week of Burning Man by being dog tired almost the whole
> time we were there. I don't think I will do that again. Ever ever ever.
Agreed - driving is a lot of work. I was fried the times I arrived
by car, though I only had one person to share the driving. It might
be better with multiple people. Though I recall the time I flew out I
was up so late packing and getting ready the nights before my flight I was
still pretty wasted my first few days. I know some folks who rode Amtrak
to the playa a few years ago from Chicago. That'd be a nice way to go if
it's cost-competitive, and you can bring more freight with you (and
probably some contraband) than if you're flying.
Driving does have the advantage that you can be more flexible with your
departure times and how you arrange your cargo. For instance, sure you can
probably snap up a semi-ok bicycle at a Reno thrift shop (or maybe not!)
but it's really, really nice to be able to bring a bike you know to the
playa. Then when you fly and rent a car, you don't have a lot of cargo
space for such things - it's never easy.
> I understand many east coast Burners maintain permanent storage spaces for
> their gear in Reno. It can be cheaper if you are an annual burner to just
> keep BM gear there and duplicate your camping gear that you would use for
> conventional camping and other festivals.
Some people have done this if they have large-scale projects or villages
they undertake on the playa. IMHO not that practical - often your gear and
artwork needs to spend some time in a shop being reconditioned, cleaned,
broken parts replaced, etc between burns, so it's worth bringing it home
post-burn. Storage is cheaper in Nevada than it is on the east coast but
not free, you wind up paying through the year to store something that may
or may not get used the following year, and if you stop paying you risk
losing it.
John Stoner
On Jan 21, 11:41 am, Kathleen Ellis <k...@thleen.org> wrote:
> On Thu, 21 Jan 2010, Jef wrote:
> Agreed - driving is a lot of work. I was fried the times I arrived
> by car, though I only had one person to share the driving. It might
> be better with multiple people. Though I recall the time I flew out I
> was up so late packing and getting ready the nights before my flight I was
> still pretty wasted my first few days. I know some folks who rode Amtrak
> to the playa a few years ago from Chicago. That'd be a nice way to go if
> it's cost-competitive, and you can bring more freight with you (and
> probably some contraband) than if you're flying.
>
I took Amtrak when I went in 2008. Quite nice, close in cost to
flying. Though I did see authorities with dogs board late one night.
Not sure if they were drug sniffing or bomb sniffing, but I wouldn't
take chances with carrying anything illegal that dogs could smell.
Glenn Powers
I'm fairly certain that Amtrak dogs are bomb sniffers.
-glenn
John Stoner
convention was that week. Someone reminded me off list.