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Lew Simons
Jul 27, 2024, 6:54:43 PM (yesterday) Jul 27
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Many thanks to all who responded to my request for Indochine travel expertise on behalf of my cousins. I'm passing along your messages to them so that they can follow up directly as they see fit.
lew
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Lew Simons <simply...@gmail.com>: Jul 26 05:26PM -0400
Carl and other fellow OH's:
My cousin and his wife are planning a 2-3-week Indochina sojourn this
autumn and are asking for guidance. Carol and I were in Vietnam last
November, but it was a cruise/speaking gig and we didn't see much. I
haven't been in Cambodia or Laos for donkey's years and am very out of
touch. I'd greatly appreciate help from those of you who are more current.
Following is part of my cousin's request:
I have books and other information on these areas but I can’t seem to sort
out the logistics or the nuances of each place we’d like to visit. Of
course, we’d like to understand the unique history and culture of the
places we visit and see the most compelling sites with knowledgeable guides
but we’d also like to explore places that are off the beaten path and
therefore less touristy. We love good food and restaurants, beautiful
beaches/mountains/water, and interesting art and architecture. We do not
want to make this trip too hectic where we don’t get the feel for each
place because we’re too busy running to the next. Any input you can share
would be super-helpful.
Thanks and cheers,
Lew
Catherine Karnow <catheri...@yahoo.com>: Jul 26 02:43PM -0700
Lew,
I have an excellent list where to visit, eat, shop and stay in Hanoi, Hue and Hoi An, if you want to send me your personal email address.
Let me know of you want me to include Siem Reap.
Thanks,
Catherine
Based in San Francisco & Provence
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On Jul 26, 2024, at 2:26 PM, Lew Simons <simply...@gmail.com> wrote:
Carl and other fellow OH's:
My cousin and his wife are planning a 2-3-week Indochina sojourn this autumn and are asking for guidance. Carol and I were in Vietnam last November, but it was a cruise/speaking gig and we didn't see much. I haven't been in Cambodia or Laos for donkey's years and am very out of touch. I'd greatly appreciate help from those of you who are more current. Following is part of my cousin's request:
I have books and other information on these areas but I can't seem to sort out the logistics or the nuances of each place we'd like to visit. Of course, we'd like to understand the unique history and culture of the places we visit and see the most compelling sites with knowledgeable guides but we'd also like to explore places that are off the beaten path and therefore less touristy. We love good food and restaurants, beautiful beaches/mountains/water, and interesting art and architecture. We do not want to make this trip too hectic where we don't get the feel for each place because we're too busy running to the next. Any input you can share would be super-helpful.
Thanks and cheers,
Lew
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Exclusive: US, Vietnam discuss supplying Hanoi with C-130 military transport planes, sources say | Reuters - 1 Update
Exclusive: US, Vietnam discuss supplying Hanoi with C-130 military transport planes, sources say | Reuters
Carl Robinson <robinso...@gmail.com>: Jul 26 02:28PM +1000
Interesting, if true. The North certainly inherited some in '75 from VNAF
and I Recall used to airlift troops up north during China's invasion in
'79. Pricier than Russian equivalent and a bit surprising US would
transfer the aircraft's latest version and technology to Vietnam.
Carl
https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/us-vietnam-discuss-supplying-hanoi-with-c-130-military-transport-planes-sources-2024-07-25/
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paul...@yahoo.com: Jul 26 05:32PM -0500
Don't think they'll be getting any of these gems.
pjh
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On Jul 26, 2024, at 16:44, 'Catherine Karnow' via Vietnam Old Hacks <vietnam-...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
Lew,
I have an excellent list where to visit, eat, shop and stay in Hanoi, Hue and Hoi An, if you want to send me your personal email address.
Let me know of you want me to include Siem Reap.
Thanks,
Catherine
Based in San Francisco & Provence
Tel 415.383.3328
Mobile 415.305.8181
www.catherinekarnow.com
• Available for Assignments
• San Francisco & International Photo Workshops
• Photo Consultations
• Speaking Presentations
• Two brand new books on the beauty of Provence!
Represented by:
Art Vietnam Gallery Hanoi
www.artvietnamgallery.com
National Geographic: The Photo Society
www.thephotosociety.org/member/catherine-karnow
On Jul 26, 2024, at 2:26 PM, Lew Simons <simply...@gmail.com> wrote:
Carl and other fellow OH's:
My cousin and his wife are planning a 2-3-week Indochina sojourn this autumn and are asking for guidance. Carol and I were in Vietnam last November, but it was a cruise/speaking gig and we didn't see much. I haven't been in Cambodia or Laos for donkey's years and am very out of touch. I'd greatly appreciate help from those of you who are more current. Following is part of my cousin's request:
I have books and other information on these areas but I can't seem to sort out the logistics or the nuances of each place we'd like to visit. Of course, we'd like to understand the unique history and culture of the places we visit and see the most compelling sites with knowledgeable guides but we'd also like to explore places that are off the beaten path and therefore less touristy. We love good food and restaurants, beautiful beaches/mountains/water, and interesting art and architecture. We do not want to make this trip too hectic where we don't get the feel for each place because we're too busy running to the next. Any input you can share would be super-helpful.
Thanks and cheers,
Lew
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Exclusive: US, Vietnam discuss supplying Hanoi with C-130 military transport planes, sources say | Reuters
Carl Robinson <robinso...@gmail.com>: Jul 26 02:28PM +1000
Interesting, if true. The North certainly inherited some in '75 from VNAF
and I Recall used to airlift troops up north during China's invasion in
'79. Pricier than Russian equivalent and a bit surprising US would
transfer the aircraft's latest version and technology to Vietnam.
Carl
https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/us-vietnam-discuss-supplying-hanoi-with-c-130-military-transport-planes-sources-2024-07-25/
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Jack van Ommen <vanomm...@gmail.com>: Jul 27 10:11AM +0200
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Dear Lew,
Your cousin may find some useful information by reading through my blogs of
spending 3 months traveling through Indo-China in 2010. I realize much has
changed since, but the hotels, modes of transport and sights remain. I
served in Vietnam from late 1961 until early 1963. And I also visited
Vietnam in 2006. My story starts on January 2nd 2010 :
https://cometosea.us/?p=837 For a 2 to 3 week trip I would recommend a day
or overnight local tour from Saigon to My Tho on the Mekong. Bus or speed
boat to Phnom Penh, Angkor Wat, Luang Prabang (skip time in Vientiane),
overnight train trip from Hanoi to Sapa, bus trip to Ninh Binh, probably
skip Ha Long Bay according to Carl's reports, and Hoi Anh another overdone
spot. Hue is a must. For the beach, I'd consider Nhatrang. Skip Dalat.
Regards,
Jack van Ommen
Denis Gray <denis...@gmail.com>: Jul 27 05:01PM +0700
Hi Lew,
Hope all goes better these days on the political scene in Washington.
Love to help out but I also have not been to Laos and Cambodia for a
long time although I do plan trips to see old friends this year.
Not to be too negative but there are not many off-the-beaten,
untouristed places left in these countries and some, like Angkor and Luang
Prabang, are heaving with tourists although of course still beautiful and
your cousin should put them on their itinerary. On the positive side, both
countries now have some excellent restaurants, better than in our day. One
or two restaurants in Siem Reap are often cited as among the best in Asia.
I think if your cousin wants to avoid tourists, then a trek of several
days into some remote corner of these countries is the way to go. AS far
as beaches, the Cambodian coast still has some lovely relatively
tourist-free ones. If they head that way from Phnom Penh, an overnight in
Kampot would be good. It is one of the very few places in Cambodia that
has done a very good job in preserving its colonial-Sino heritage. Phnom
Penh too has some excellent food but the old atmosphere has been all but
killed off by a Chinese-fueled boom in highrises, shopping malls, etc. One
recent development is a high-end residential enclave that tries to
reproduce Paris, complete with an Arc of Triumph and expensive boutiques.
Pol Pot must be turning in his grave.
I think we were lucky to have seen these places in our day.
All best!
Denis
John.Gottberg Anderson <johngo...@gmail.com>: Jul 27 07:22PM +0700
Lew,
Here's a story I recently published with David DeVoss' East-West News
Service. There may be something helpful in here.
Cambodia’s Capital, Phnom Penh, Embraces A New Generation - Travel &
Cultural Analysis From Around the World | East-West News Service
(eastwestnewsservice.com)
<https://www.eastwestnewsservice.com/phnom-penh-cambodias-progressive-capital-embraces-a-new-generation/#google_vignette>
Best,
John
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David Brown <nwo...@gmail.com>: Jul 27 07:01AM -0700
Dear Lew et al., Replying to a similar query last year, I wrote:
*. . . Almost all of the Vietnam tours offered to Westerners are clones of
the same model and itinerary. For these, the tour sponsors and the bios of
the leaders are your best clue to quality. *
*. . . I urge you to study the trips offered by Handspan Travel Indochina.
Handspan is particularly good on the northern half of Vietnam. You could
consider the 21 day Grand Vietnam Discovery Tour, or take a more a la carte
approach, stitching together about five days in Hanoi & the Red River
Delta, a foray into the spectacular mountains north of Hanoi (e.g., An Epic
Expedition to Ha Giang and Ba Be), two nights on Ha Long Bay, and then
several days each in and around Saigon (check into our favorite Spring
Hotel on duong Le Thanh Ton in district 1 and do your own exploring or
maybe join Handspan's walking tours) and in the Mekong Delta (perhaps
Handspan's 2 day 'Mekong Exploration -- a Classic Renewed). Re Ha Long
Bay, you absolutely want to avoid a one day trip -- choose a one or two
night cruise so you will get deep into the nicest parts of the bay, perhaps
as far as Bai Tu Long.*
*See also my Aussie friend Mark Bowyer's fine Vietnam travel
website, www.rustycompass.com <http://www.rustycompass.com/>. Mark
(ma...@rustycompass.com <ma...@rustycompass.com>) spends about half the year
in Saigon; it would be great if you can connect with him there.*
*. . . the best times to travel are from Thanksgiving until the end of
January. You'll notice that I have not mentioned central Vietnam (CVN --
Hue/Danang/Hoi An). For this, there are two reasons. First, CVN is well
worth a stand-alone seven to ten day visit at some other time. Second,
when the weather's best in the north and south (December to March), it is
perversely the (torrentially) rainy season in the center.*
Your cousins can send me a note if they have more specific questions:
*nwo...@gmail.com
<nwo...@gmail.com>*. Regards, David Brown
John Burgess <johnb...@outlook.com>: Jul 27 05:50PM
And concerning a trip to Angkor, the best guide there to my mind is Saron Soeun. His email is saron...@gmail.com<mailto:saron...@gmail.com>. Very knowledgeable, good English, and an all-around good guy.
John
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Dear Lew et al., Replying to a similar query last year, I wrote:
. . . Almost all of the Vietnam tours offered to Westerners are clones of the same model and itinerary. For these, the tour sponsors and the bios of the leaders are your best clue to quality.
. . . I urge you to study the trips offered by Handspan Travel Indochina. Handspan is particularly good on the northern half of Vietnam. You could consider the 21 day Grand Vietnam Discovery Tour, or take a more a la carte approach, stitching together about five days in Hanoi & the Red River Delta, a foray into the spectacular mountains north of Hanoi (e.g., An Epic Expedition to Ha Giang and Ba Be), two nights on Ha Long Bay, and then several days each in and around Saigon (check into our favorite Spring Hotel on duong Le Thanh Ton in district 1 and do your own exploring or maybe join Handspan's walking tours) and in the Mekong Delta (perhaps Handspan's 2 day 'Mekong Exploration -- a Classic Renewed). Re Ha Long Bay, you absolutely want to avoid a one day trip -- choose a one or two night cruise so you will get deep into the nicest parts of the bay, perhaps as far as Bai Tu Long.
See also my Aussie friend Mark Bowyer's fine Vietnam travel website, www.rustycompass.com<http://www.rustycompass.com/>. Mark (ma...@rustycompass.com<mailto:ma...@rustycompass.com>) spends about half the year in Saigon; it would be great if you can connect with him there.
. . . the best times to travel are from Thanksgiving until the end of January. You'll notice that I have not mentioned central Vietnam (CVN -- Hue/Danang/Hoi An). For this, there are two reasons. First, CVN is well worth a stand-alone seven to ten day visit at some other time. Second, when the weather's best in the north and south (December to March), it is perversely the (torrentially) rainy season in the center.
Your cousins can send me a note if they have more specific questions: nwo...@gmail.com<mailto:nwo...@gmail.com>. Regards, David Brown
On Fri, Jul 26, 2024 at 2:26 PM Lew Simons <simply...@gmail.com<mailto:simply...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Carl and other fellow OH's:
My cousin and his wife are planning a 2-3-week Indochina sojourn this autumn and are asking for guidance. Carol and I were in Vietnam last November, but it was a cruise/speaking gig and we didn't see much. I haven't been in Cambodia or Laos for donkey's years and am very out of touch. I'd greatly appreciate help from those of you who are more current. Following is part of my cousin's request:
I have books and other information on these areas but I can’t seem to sort out the logistics or the nuances of each place we’d like to visit. Of course, we’d like to understand the unique history and culture of the places we visit and see the most compelling sites with knowledgeable guides but we’d also like to explore places that are off the beaten path and therefore less touristy. We love good food and restaurants, beautiful beaches/mountains/water, and interesting art and architecture. We do not want to make this trip too hectic where we don’t get the feel for each place because we’re too busy running to the next. Any input you can share would be super-helpful.
Thanks and cheers,
Lew
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Carl Robinson <robinso...@gmail.com<mailto:robinso...@gmail.com>>: Jul 26 02:28PM +1000
Interesting, if true. The North certainly inherited some in '75 from VNAF
and I Recall used to airlift troops up north during China's invasion in
'79. Pricier than Russian equivalent and a bit surprising US would
transfer the aircraft's latest version and technology to Vietnam.
Carl
https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/us-vietnam-discuss-supplying-hanoi-with-c-130-military-transport-planes-sources-2024-07-25/
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So, presume you got my separate message, Lew?
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