LOOKING FOR OLD HACKS - help us find old colleagues.

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Carl Robinson

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Jul 24, 2009, 4:26:41 AM7/24/09
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We need your continued assistance tracking down more "old hacks" from
Vietnam War, plus Cambodia and Laos. Please use -- and regularly
check -- this "discussion" topic to help us track down our former
colleagues. Even if you're just providing a name and period, others
might well know where they are and how to reach them. (Sadly, we
might also be hearing of those who have already passed on.) So, this
is an "active" site.

As a general statement, we seem to be short of newspaper types. NY
Times, Wx Post and others. Any idea where Woody Dickerman of Newsday
might be ? Radio and TV also need beefing up. UPI has done well
but we need more ex-AP folks. (Where is John Wheeler, for example?
Lynn Newland? Willis Johnson? )

At the same time, we are short on non-American "old hacks." We need
more Brits, French, Germans and other nationalities. In Asia, where
are the Japanese correspondents, cameramen and photographers?
Koreans?

We now have over 135 members, but these also include those who covered
Indochina after 1975, family members, those with a strong interest in
the region and others who are mutual friends. (Please assist by
creating "profiles" and uploading a picture.) Hopefully, you can
read the "members" list but please advise if not.

We look forward to your continued assistance with this amazing
project.

For personal communications, please contact "robinso...@gmail.com"
and/or "der...@gmail.com".

Holger Jensen

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Jul 24, 2009, 8:34:21 AM7/24/09
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How about Morita-san, the AP photo who went on to become a big shot,
perhaps even editor-in-chief, at one of the big Japanese papers? Big
friend of Terry Khoo in Vietnam.
Holger
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Keith Kay

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Jul 24, 2009, 10:26:20 AM7/24/09
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Did you snag Loren Jenkins yet? He is broadcast now but was legit
once at WP then Newsweek. LJen...@npr.org
Cheers,
Keith Kay
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don kirk

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Jul 24, 2009, 10:42:17 AM7/24/09
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Woody has been living for years in Key West, summering in Squirrel Island, Maine.
Don

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don kirk

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Jul 24, 2009, 10:50:06 AM7/24/09
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If you're still looking for journos who were in Laos, Tammy Arbuckle, who was stringing for number of people, including WashStar, has been back in Edinboro, Scotland, sorry for misspelling the place. T.D. Allman, ex-WashPost and NYTimes stringer, has a place in Brooklyn Heights, written books, articles for Vanity Fair, others. Believe Estelle Holt passed away. Tony Yared, who believe was in Laos for AP before moving on to Jakarta in mid-60s, died a couple years ago -- wife Bobbie, formerly UPI Jakarta, still living in Bethesda. (They were good friends of the late Arthur Dommen and his wife, Loan.)
Don

--- On Fri, 7/24/09, Keith Kay <barn...@verizon.net> wrote:

From: Keith Kay <barn...@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: LOOKING FOR OLD HACKS - help us find old colleagues.
To: vietnam-...@googlegroups.com
Date: Friday, July 24, 2009, 10:26 AM


Did you snag Loren Jenkins yet?  He is broadcast now but was legit 
once at WP then Newsweek. LJen...@npr.org
Cheers,
Keith Kay
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On Jul 24, 2009, at 3:26 AM, Carl Robinson wrote:

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Alli...@aol.com

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Jul 24, 2009, 1:14:29 PM7/24/09
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During the Iran-Iraq war, when we all were scrambling for some reason to get from Baghdad to Basra, Loren Jenkins stopped off enroute to "visit" the alleged site of the Garden of Eden, somewhere around the confluence of the Tigris and Euphrates.  Loren ignored the warning signs that he was read something to the effect of "Do Not Enter" and was prompted apprehended and quite forcibly ejected.
 
When he arrived at Basra (at the grimly terribly awful Hamdan Hotel that served as a sort of makeshift press hdq for us), he typed for the WP what I thought was one of the best leads of that rather silly war:
 
   "I was thrown out of the Garden of Eden today..."
 
   Hope he joins up with us.
 
alwebb
 
 
 
 

Lew Simons

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Jul 24, 2009, 4:07:27 PM7/24/09
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Keith, Carl, others...

Loren Jenkins is foreign editor at NPR. Saw him last week. He's at:
LJen...@npr.org

Also, Barry Hillenbrand, retired from TIME, here in DC:
BarryHil...@aol.com

Assume you're in touch with Denis Gray, but haven't seen his name yet.
He's still in Bangkok with AP: Dg...@ap.org

Not a hack but author of the estimable War Comes to An Loc, Jeff Race,
living in Bangkok: <jr...@attglobal.net>

David Shipler, EX NYT, writing books and living in suburban DC:
dshi...@comcast.net

The latest address I have for TD Allman is: Allm...@aol.com

Cheers,

Lew Simons
> For personal communications, please contact "robinsoncar...@gmail.com"
> and/or "dere...@gmail.com".

Carl Robinson

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Jul 24, 2009, 4:47:56 PM7/24/09
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Thank you for all these names, folks !  Keep 'em coming.   I'll send out personal invites and tell 'em their mates are waiting for a drink or two!  By the way, i did contact Loren but got one of those dreaded 'out of office' replies so he must be on holiday/vacation right now.     Regards, Carl

don kirk

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Jul 24, 2009, 7:24:27 PM7/24/09
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Lew,
Race book is "War Comes to Long An."  Believe there is, however, another book entitled "War Comes to An Loc" -- by one Juan Ramirez, I think.
Best,
Don

--- On Fri, 7/24/09, Lew Simons <simply...@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Lew Simons <simply...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: LOOKING FOR OLD HACKS - help us find old colleagues.

derek maitland

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Jul 24, 2009, 9:26:32 PM7/24/09
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Kurt Rolfe, John Donnelly -- last saw Kurt crouching behind a fallen
tree in a firefight outside Da Nang in the Tet Offensive. Donnelly
left the war with me in March or April 1968 and we partied heavily for
days in Hong Kong. Last saw him in London around 1970 with a beautiful
young blonde wife from California. Anyone seen or heard of them?
> For personal communications, please contact "robinsoncar...@gmail.com"
> and/or "dere...@gmail.com".

Martin Stuart-Fox

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Jul 24, 2009, 10:18:27 PM7/24/09
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Don,

Do you have anything more on whereabouts of Tammy Arbuckle. I’ve been trying to track him down for ages.

Estelle is no longer with us; and Tony Yared was AP Laos, as was Estelle (stringing).

Thanks,

Martin

 


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Mort Rosenblum

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Jul 25, 2009, 1:42:09 AM7/25/09
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kurt had a good business in singers making corporate photos, off oil
rigs and indonesia and such, and doing booming-voice commercials and
dubbing jobs. then he vanished back to america. more later.

Dirck Halstead

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Jul 25, 2009, 9:54:24 AM7/25/09
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Have you guys put a notication of our list on the UPI downhold list?

don kirk

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Jul 25, 2009, 2:29:37 PM7/25/09
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Checked sometime ago while in London, confirmed Tammy in Edinburgh (yup, finally got the spelling). Wasn't able to get in touch. Anyway, trust he's still there. He shd definitely be on the list -- lotta reflections, views, stories to tell
Don
-- How about your brother, Donald? Seem to recall that byline too.


--- On Fri, 7/24/09, Martin Stuart-Fox <m.stu...@uq.edu.au> wrote:

From: Martin Stuart-Fox <m.stu...@uq.edu.au>
Subject: RE: LOOKING FOR OLD HACKS - help us find old colleagues.
To: vietnam-...@googlegroups.com
Date: Friday, July 24, 2009, 10:18 PM

Don,

Do you have anything more on whereabouts of Tammy Arbuckle. I’ve been trying to track him down for ages.

Estelle is no longer with us; and Tony Yared was AP Laos, as was Estelle (stringing).

Thanks,

Martin

 


From: vietnam-...@googlegroups.com [mailto: vietnam-...@googlegroups.com ] On Behalf Of don kirk
Sent: Saturday, 25 July 2009 12:50 AM
To: vietnam-...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: LOOKING FOR OLD HACKS - help us find old colleagues.

 

If you're still looking for journos who were in Laos, Tammy Arbuckle, who was stringing for number of people, including WashStar, has been back in Edinboro, Scotland, sorry for misspelling the place. T.D. Allman, ex-WashPost and NYTimes stringer, has a place in Brooklyn Heights, written books, articles for Vanity Fair, others. Believe Estelle Holt passed away. Tony Yared, who believe was in Laos for AP before moving on to Jakarta in mid-60s, died a couple years ago -- wife Bobbie, formerly UPI Jakarta, still living in Bethesda . (They were good friends of the late Arthur Dommen and his wife, Loan.)


Don

--- On Fri, 7/24/09, Keith Kay <barn...@verizon.net> wrote:


From: Keith Kay <barn...@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: LOOKING FOR OLD HACKS - help us find old colleagues.
To: vietnam-...@googlegroups.com
Date: Friday, July 24, 2009, 10:26 AM


Did you snag Loren Jenkins yet?  He is broadcast now but was legit 
once at WP then Newsweek. LJen...@npr.org
Cheers,
Keith Kay
barn...@verizon.net
Skype: ruralhelpnet
http://barnwoodtx.multiply.com
cell: 512 470 7707

216 W Meadow, Wimberley , TX 78676


hat: 7  1/2
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On Jul 24, 2009, at 3:26 AM, Carl Robinson wrote:

>
> We need your continued assistance tracking down more "old hacks" from

> Vietnam War, plus Cambodia and Laos .  Please use -- and regularly


> check -- this "discussion" topic to help us track down our former
> colleagues.  Even if you're just providing a name and period, others
> might well know where they are and how to reach them.  (Sadly, we
> might also be hearing of those who have already passed on.)  So, this
> is an "active" site.
>
> As a general statement, we seem to be short of newspaper types.  NY
> Times, Wx Post and others.  Any idea where Woody Dickerman of Newsday
> might be ?   Radio and TV also need beefing up.   UPI has done well
> but we need more ex-AP folks.   (Where is John Wheeler, for example?
> Lynn Newland?  Willis Johnson? )
>
> At the same time, we are short on non-American "old hacks."    We need

> more Brits, French, Germans and other nationalities.   In Asia , where


> are the Japanese correspondents, cameramen and photographers?
> Koreans?
>
> We now have over 135 members, but these also include those who covered
> Indochina after 1975, family members, those with a strong interest in
> the region and others who are mutual friends.   (Please assist by
> creating "profiles" and uploading a picture.)   Hopefully, you can
> read the "members" list but please advise if not.
>
> We look forward to your continued assistance with this amazing
> project.
>

Martin Stuart-Fox

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Jul 26, 2009, 7:59:52 AM7/26/09
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Don,

You mean my brother, David. He dropped out of journalism after Cambodia and spent sixteen years in Bali working on various projects, including a PhD on the great temple of Besakhi. There he met a Dutch lady and they and their two children now live in Leiden, where they both work at the ethnographic museum (which probably has the best collection of Indonesian art in the world.)

You can find half a dozen of his books on Amazon.

Cheers,

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don kirk

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Jul 26, 2009, 3:34:53 PM7/26/09
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Thanks for the update, and name -- wd be interesting to hear some of his views too.
Don


--- On Sun, 7/26/09, Martin Stuart-Fox <m.stu...@uq.edu.au> wrote:

From: Martin Stuart-Fox <m.stu...@uq.edu.au>
Subject: RE: LOOKING FOR OLD HACKS - help us find old colleagues.
To: vietnam-...@googlegroups.com
Date: Sunday, July 26, 2009, 7:59 AM

Don,

You mean my brother, David. He dropped out of journalism after Cambodia and spent sixteen years in Bali working on various projects, including a PhD on the great temple of Besakhi . There he met a Dutch lady and they and their two children now live in Leiden , where they both work at the ethnographic museum (which probably has the best collection of Indonesian art in the world.)

You can find half a dozen of his books on Amazon.

Cheers,

Martin

 


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Sent: Sunday, 26 July 2009 4:30 AM
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Subject: RE: LOOKING FOR OLD HACKS - help us find old colleagues.

 

Checked sometime ago while in London , confirmed Tammy in Edinburgh (yup, finally got the spelling). Wasn't able to get in touch. Anyway, trust he's still there. He shd definitely be on the list -- lotta reflections, views, stories to tell

tony clifton

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Jul 26, 2009, 9:02:28 PM7/26/09
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From Clifton: I'm drowning under all the names, dates and suggestions, so I
probably have missed some stuff, but has anyone thought of contacting David
Greenway, who was a frightening competitor of mine when he worked for Time,
and one of the very few hacks to be awarded a Bronze Star for bravery in
Vietnam. Last I heard, he had a column in the Boston Glove, after years of
full time editing and commenting there.




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>

John Giannini

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Jul 26, 2009, 9:19:12 PM7/26/09
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These days Greenway is listed as a contributing correspondent to an online news service called the The Global Post. They don't list the personal email addresses of the correspondents, but you might try sending a message through their Contact Us link at the bottom of the Home page and ask them to onpass to Greenway.

Cheers, JG

John Giannini
Spaghetti Farm Productions
1330 S. Harvard Ave.
Arlington Heights, IL 60005 USA
Hong Kong: +852 8127 7597
Skype name: johngiannini


Ted Marks

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Jul 26, 2009, 10:45:18 PM7/26/09
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Dave Greenway retired a couple of years as the editorial page editor of the Boston Globe;  I believe he has since joined with Phil Balboni (ex-UPI editor in Boston who went onto establish the New England News Service) to create the Global Post, which is an online feature service that provides content to newspapers and online sites. It has a network of correspondents around the Globe, but not sure how well they are doing....tough market out there these days.


Carl Robinson

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Jul 27, 2009, 4:03:48 AM7/27/09
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Thank you for all your suggestions. I have sent out personal invites
and even have a phone number for a T Arbuckle in Edinburgh whom i'll
call ! New members today are ex-Time Peter Range and ex-NBC's Dennis
Troute. Welcome ! We're now pushing 150 members.

Would apc help with following:

-A better name or contact hints for "Woody" Dickerman, ex-Newsday?
(Phone search shows no Dickerman in Key West or Squirrel Island,
Maine!)
-Ex-VOA Wayne Corey, who was Peter Collins predecessor in Saigon.
(Peter's on board, by the way.)
-David Stuart-Fox. I've asked him but no reply so perhaps Martin can
prod. (tnx)
-Wallace "Wally" Terry of Time magazine's first, and believe only,
black correspondent in Vietnam. Wrote Bloods. Any ideas?
-David Greenway, i'll upfolo via The Global Post
-This "UPI dowload list" that Dirck mentions. Please advise further
how we can put something up on that site.
-Ex-NY Times correspondents: Craig Whitney, Gene Roberts (later
Phillie Enquirer), Fox Butterfield. (Is Malcolm Browne around?) I
also recall an Arthur Sulzberger Jr who had that flash yellow Citroen
convertible and never sure he was working or playing ?! (He's
probably running the company now, right?!)
-Ex-Washington Post correspondents Bob Kaiser, Peter Osnos. (Is
Ward Just around?)
-Wall Street Journal's Peter Kahn.

Any help much appreciated. Plus more names, of course. Thanks,
Carl



peter oloughlin

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Jul 27, 2009, 5:28:00 AM7/27/09
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Carl:   Does anyone know if George McArthur is still with us?
 
> Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 01:03:48 -0700>

Sylvana Foa

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Jul 27, 2009, 5:40:32 AM7/27/09
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Re black correspondents -- do not forget Jim Giggans who was working for ABC.  He and Patti had this fabulous apartment in Saigon with a central courtyard.


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Mort Rosenblum

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Jul 27, 2009, 5:55:48 AM7/27/09
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dave greenway is at the boston globe which, as of this morning, is still appearing. peter osnos runs public affairs, a division of random house. gene roberts is around, but i think not on email, grand traditionalist that he is; i'll find coordinates but likely someone out there has them.

Mort Rosenblum

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Jul 27, 2009, 6:00:31 AM7/27/09
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carl

    yes, sulzberger jr. is running the company and a lot of people still aren't sure whether he's working or playing.

    m
On Jul 27, 2009, at 11:40 AM, Sylvana Foa wrote:

Carl Robinson

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Jul 27, 2009, 6:36:31 AM7/27/09
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Gotta' laugh here, folks ! I've just spoken to Tammy Arbuckle in
Edinburgh, Scotland, and he regrets to announce that he's regretably
not on e-mail. "I'm retired now, so I don't need that anymore," he
sez. So, snail mail it is to: 29 Mentone Tce, Flat 2/F1, Edinburgh,
EH9 2DF, UK. Tel. 0011-44-131-667-6028. Tammy sends his best to old
colleagues ! Best, Carl

Carl Robinson

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Jul 27, 2009, 7:09:21 AM7/27/09
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And sad news, too, for those who were not aware of the passing of
Wallace "Wally" Terry, a renowned black war correspondent with Time
Magazine.

This from his former colleague Peter Range:

Yes. I have a vague recollection of hearing that he may have died.
Yep, now I’ve found it on Wikipedia….died 2003. here’s the home page
for his book, etc.

http://www.wallaceterry.com/




Don Hirst

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Jul 27, 2009, 7:23:08 AM7/27/09
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Here's another link about Wally Terry on the National Association of
Black Journalists:
http://www.nabj.org/resources/books/index.php

Just scroll down until you find his name.

Don Hirst

Jon Swain

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Jul 27, 2009, 7:37:21 AM7/27/09
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Good for Tammy. He is clearly still on Lao time! Jon

Sent from my iPhone

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wrote:

peter m herford

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Jul 27, 2009, 9:19:41 AM7/27/09
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Ward lives on the Isle St Louis in Paris where he has been writing books for the last 20 years - and still doesn't speak French. That said I don't have a contact for him.

cheers

peter
--
peter m herford
243 Da Xue Road
shantou university
shantou, guangdong 515063
China
mobile (86) 13536836196
fax (86) 754 8290 3518
Hong Kong mobile (852) 64715873
US mobile 206 409 5878

David Lamb

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Jul 27, 2009, 10:33:06 AM7/27/09
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Carl, a couple of other old-hack names which I don't believe are on your
list:
Al Shuster alvin....@latimes.com (NYT's '60s)
Peter Osnos peter...@publicaffairsbooks.com (WashPost '60s)
I may be every wrong--and hope I am--but I have a recollection of reading
an obit on Woody Dickerman several years ago. Woody used to file through
UPI/Saigon.
David Lamb

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don kirk

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Jul 27, 2009, 11:00:52 AM7/27/09
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Sorry to bear sad news again, but Wally Terry passed away several years ago. Craig Whitney remains on the NYT masthead. Peter Osnos runs Public Affairs Books in NY. (His son Evan was corr in Beijing for ChiTrib, believe now with New Yorker.) Peter Kahn presumably ruminating over Rupert Murdoch's takeover of WSJ.
Best,
Don


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don kirk

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Jul 27, 2009, 11:06:06 AM7/27/09
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I got a number for Woody somewhere,will make big effort to find what became of him. (Thought we talked couple years ago, may have been longer.) Isn't Kaiser still writing for WashPost?
Don

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From...@aol.com

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He is living in suburban Virginia, approaching the age of 90.
For anyone interested, Frank McCulloch, the great Time Magazine bureau chief in SE Asia (Hong Kong and Vietnam) is living in Santa Rosa, California, about the same age.

From...@aol.com

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Jul 27, 2009, 11:33:29 AM7/27/09
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Carl- While you're to be commended for establishing the Vietnam Old Hacks site, the fact is that I can't take the time to digest all the individual inquiries and comments that appear to be coming up every day.I'm doing a final edit on a book and starting another one, as well as blogging for the Huffington Post. You need an editor desperately. Since that seems unlikely, I must ask to be discontinued except in the event of major developments. I hope we can cross paths some place in the next year, perhaps the talked-about Saigon reunion. What I fear is that most of your subscribers are from the post-Tet era since I do not recognize them.
Regards,
Murray Fromson

Derek Williams

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Jul 27, 2009, 11:42:08 AM7/27/09
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Hi Murray: you can always change your settings so that you only receive one daily email with a digest of the days' message traffic.  Much easier to handle if you feel overloaded.

cheers

Derek

Dave

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Jul 27, 2009, 11:45:19 AM7/27/09
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Hi Derek

How does one do that?

Brgds
Dave

"Sent via CSL BlackBerry."


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Derek Williams

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Jul 27, 2009, 12:01:29 PM7/27/09
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There are 4 options regarding incoming email for members. You should be able to log in and make your choice.

Subscription type


John Giannini

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Jul 27, 2009, 12:07:28 PM7/27/09
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Dave,

The selections Derrick is talking about are under the 'Edit my membership' tab in the upper right of the group's home page.

Cheers, JG

David Lamb

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George MacArthur is in Vienna, VA kimpa...@aol.com

 

David Lamb

 


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He is living in suburban Virginia, approaching the age of 90.

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Don Hirst

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Jul 27, 2009, 1:50:41 PM7/27/09
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Carl,

Don't see Richard Threlkeld, who was with CBS in Vietnam, on the list.
Here's his e-mail. I think he would appreciate an invite to join. E-
mail: threl...@gmail.com

Cheers,

Don Hirst
formerly of Overseas Weekly

On Jul 24, 4:26�am, Carl Robinson <robinsoncar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> We need your continued assistance tracking down more "old hacks" from
> Vietnam War, plus Cambodia and Laos. �Please use -- and regularly
> check -- this "discussion" topic to help us track down our former
> colleagues. �Even if you're just providing a name and period, others
> might well know where they are and how to reach them. �(Sadly, we
> might also be hearing of those who have already passed on.) �So, this
> is an "active" site.
>
> As a general statement, we seem to be short of newspaper types. �NY
> Times, Wx Post and others. �Any idea where Woody Dickerman of Newsday
> might be ? � Radio and TV also need beefing up. � UPI has done well
> but we need more ex-AP folks. � (Where is John Wheeler, for example?
> Lynn Newland? �Willis Johnson? )
>
> At the same time, we are short on non-American "old hacks." � �We need
> more Brits, French, Germans and other nationalities. � In Asia, where
> are the Japanese correspondents, cameramen and photographers?
> Koreans?
>
> We now have over 135 members, but these also include those who covered
> Indochina after 1975, family members, those with a strong interest in
> the region and others who are mutual friends. � (Please assist by
> creating "profiles" and uploading a picture.) � Hopefully, you can
> read the "members" list but please advise if not.
>
> We look forward to your continued assistance with this amazing
> project.
>
> For personal communications, please contact "robinsoncar...@gmail.com"
> and/or "dere...@gmail.com".

David Lamb

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Don,
Dick Threlkeld is in Tucson and you're got his email right--th...@gmail.com . His wife, Betsy Aaron, was also with CBS, but I'm not sure if she was in VN. At any rate, her email is baar...@gmail.com
David Lamb

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 1:51 PM
To: Vietnam Old Hacks
Subject: Re: LOOKING FOR OLD HACKS - help us find old colleagues.


Mort Rosenblum

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betsy qualifies and would be a good addition to the list.

m

Ray H.

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Jul 27, 2009, 4:57:00 PM7/27/09
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Sorry to report that Wally Terry, who was a close friend for many
years, died some years ago. His last book, Missing Pages--Black
Journalists of Modern America--was published posthumously in 2007 by
his widow, Janice, with an assist from Zalen "Zip" Grant, who is
reachable at zgr...@wanadoo.fr. Zip lives on a farm in Southern
France.

Keith Kay

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Jul 27, 2009, 5:34:55 PM7/27/09
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Have already forgotten Ed Bradley?

Cheers,
Keith Kay
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Don Hirst

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Jul 27, 2009, 5:56:06 PM7/27/09
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Dave, somehow part of the e-mail address didn't appear on this site.
It's threl...@gmail.com.
The d37 fell out and was replaced by a lowbar.

Good to hear from you. Hope life is treating you well.

Cheers,

Don Hirst, formerly of Overseas Weekly

On Jul 27, 3:02�pm, "David Lamb" <lam...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Don,
> Dick Threlkeld is in Tucson and you're got his email right--threlkel...@gmail.com . His wife, Betsy Aaron, was also with CBS, but I'm not sure if she was in VN. At any rate, her email is baaro...@gmail.com
> David Lamb
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: vietnam-...@googlegroups.com [mailto:vietnam-...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Don Hirst
> Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 1:51 PM
> To: Vietnam Old Hacks
> Subject: Re: LOOKING FOR OLD HACKS - help us find old colleagues.
>
> Carl,
>
> Don't see Richard Threlkeld, who was with CBS in Vietnam, on the list.
> Here's his e-mail. I think he would appreciate an invite to join. E-
> mail: threlkel...@gmail.com
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Carl Robinson

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Good morning from Australia -- and it looks like Tuesday will be a
lovely day.

Thanks all your help. We've now cracked 152 members with latest
signed up overnight: Tom Corpora; Ed Fouhy; Peter Osnos; Drew Pearson;
Barry Hillenbrand; Craig Whitney; Bill Stubbs; Bill Snead; Dick
Threlkeld; John Balaban. Re Murray's Complaint, i've adjusted him
to a "daily digest" -- and you're having probs with that just advise
me. And yes, George McArthur kicks on and has been signed up for a
while now. Great to hear of Frank McCullogh whom I've also invited.
I believe he is now our 'doyen' with McA running second.

I continue to issue invites -- and handling sign-ups. Someone said
the real joy is simply in discovering how many of us are still around
-- and care too, of course ! Cheers, Carl

Bill Cunningham

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Jul 27, 2009, 6:23:22 PM7/27/09
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Carl,

Been lookig around for Canadian "Old Hacks." Recommend, Micheal MacLear "Ten
Thousand Day War"(ref Peter Arnett)and Joe Shclesinger ex CBC. I'm sure
you've already included Morely Safer.I don't have their emails but have
their phone numbers. If you wish to add to the Canadian group they certainly
should be included.
Cunningham

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[mailto:vietnam-...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Carl Robinson
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 6:15 PM
To: Vietnam Old Hacks
Subject: Re: LOOKING FOR OLD HACKS - help us find old colleagues.


David Lamb

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Thanks, Don. I remember you well. I took a buyout from LATimes in 2004 after 34 years--just before the roof fell in. My wife and I live in Alexandria, VA, near DC. I do some free lancing for Smithsonian magazine and other, but am careful not to work too hard. Best, Dave Lamb

Carl Robinson

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Jul 27, 2009, 6:56:51 PM7/27/09
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Yes, Bill, by all means, let's get some Canadians on board.   Any trouble with using a phone -- what ?!! -- to track 'em down ?   But maybe they're still on telex.   Cheers, Carl

tony clifton

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Jul 27, 2009, 8:05:23 PM7/27/09
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Carl says he's glad so many of us are still around- and as beautiful as
ever, if the pictures mean anything.

We obviously all retain a certain charisma (or one of those other Asian
STDs.). When I summon up the website, I first get a warning from Google.
which is headed, "Adult Content Warning". and continues, "The page you are
about to view may contain content only suitable for adults", and you have to
hit a Wish to proceed" before you go on.

"Adult content". Does this mean some of us have grown up at last.....?



----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 8:14 AM
Subject: Re: LOOKING FOR OLD HACKS - help us find old colleagues.


>

Martin Stuart-Fox

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Jul 27, 2009, 9:32:54 PM7/27/09
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Carl,
David is on holiday. His email is stuar...@planet.nl
Well done finding Tammy Arbuckle. I will write to him.
Martin

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:vietnam-...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Carl Robinson
Sent: Monday, 27 July 2009 6:04 PM
To: Vietnam Old Hacks
Subject: Re: LOOKING FOR OLD HACKS - help us find old colleagues.


ronald steinman

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Jul 27, 2009, 10:22:52 PM7/27/09
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> You gotta do for me what you did for Murray for more reasons than I have time
to write. I do not have time enough in the day or space in my mailbox to keep up
with stuff that doesn't seem to die. So, please put me on a daily digest.
Thanks, Ron Steinman

Neal Ulevich

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Jul 27, 2009, 10:24:00 PM7/27/09
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Carl,

Famous Fotog of Canada Boris Spremo is delighted to hear about Old Hacks
and would like to join the "Vietnam Geezers."

His email is:

boris...@rogers.com

Best,

NU


Derek Williams

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Jul 27, 2009, 11:12:39 PM7/27/09
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Done!

Derek

Kimpa...@aol.com

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Jul 28, 2009, 12:31:21 AM7/28/09
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peter,
 
    Just celebrated my 85th birthday with a few surviving friends. Prospects for 86 dim but that has been the case for all previous anniversaries.Hope you doing as well.Your email address indicates you too are enjoying the fruits of the grape.keep it up. mcarthur


Keith Kay

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Jul 28, 2009, 3:14:19 AM7/28/09
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Alright, friends, try this one--Joe Fried, NY Daily News, gadfly of
the five o'clock follies and a great addition to the long list of hacks.
Cheers,
Keith Kay
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jon swain

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Jul 28, 2009, 5:08:38 AM7/28/09
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Hi Carl,
 
I know Nick Proffitt is no longer with us but do we have Kevin Buckley of Newsweek on board? Apart from earning his spurs over many nights at Chantal's he did fantastic work exposing the Phoenix Programme.
 
Cheers Jon

On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 9:26 AM, Carl Robinson <robinso...@gmail.com> wrote:

We need your continued assistance tracking down more "old hacks" from
Vietnam War, plus Cambodia and Laos.  Please use -- and regularly
check -- this "discussion" topic to help us track down our former
colleagues.  Even if you're just providing a name and period, others
might well know where they are and how to reach them.  (Sadly, we
might also be hearing of those who have already passed on.)  So, this
is an "active" site.

As a general statement, we seem to be short of newspaper types.  NY
Times, Wx Post and others.  Any idea where Woody Dickerman of Newsday
might be ?   Radio and TV also need beefing up.   UPI has done well
but we need more ex-AP folks.   (Where is John Wheeler, for example?
Lynn Newland?  Willis Johnson? )

At the same time, we are short on non-American "old hacks."    We need
more Brits, French, Germans and other nationalities.   In Asia, where
are the Japanese correspondents, cameramen and photographers?
Koreans?

We now have over 135 members, but these also include those who covered
Indochina after 1975, family members, those with a strong interest in
the region and others who are mutual friends.   (Please assist by
creating "profiles" and uploading a picture.)   Hopefully, you can
read the "members" list but please advise if not.

We look forward to your continued assistance with this amazing
project.

For personal communications, please contact "robinso...@gmail.com"
and/or "der...@gmail.com".




jon swain

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Jul 28, 2009, 5:21:59 AM7/28/09
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Also Ron Moreau of Newsweek?

Carl Robinson

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Jul 28, 2009, 5:28:05 AM7/28/09
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Yes, Kevin Buckley's on board -- but mighty quiet ! (Perhaps he's
found Chantal.) An e-mail's gone out to Ron Moreau. Cheers,
Carl

David Lamb

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Jul 28, 2009, 7:10:26 AM7/28/09
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Joe died a good many years ago. Dave Lamb

Bill Cunningham

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Carl
 
You could add Mike MacLear to the list. I believe Peter Arnett worked with him on his book and TV Series "The Ten Thousand Day War." MacLear made three contraversial trips to North Viet during the war and produced the series post war. His email is >micheal...@gmail.com.  I will get back to you on CBC correspondent Joe Schlesinger. Another Canadian who was there for CBC a while early was Tom Gould and another is Peter Kent who is the Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs in Ottawa.  I am away early tomorrow and won't be back in Canada for a couple of weeks. 
cunningham   


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don kirk

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And another Canadian, David Van Praagh, one-time Toronto Globe and Mail, based in Delhi and Singapore, in and out of Vietnam. Also wrote for WashStar. Last heard from teaching at Carleton or some such, writing occasionally for Ottawa Citizen.
Don

--- On Tue, 7/28/09, Bill Cunningham <billcun...@sympatico.ca> wrote:

Boris Spremo

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And another Canadian, David Van Praagh, one-time Toronto Globe and Mail, based in Delhi and Singapore, in and out of Vietnam. Also wrote for WashStar. Last heard from teaching at Carleton or some such, writing occasionally for Ottawa Citizen.
Don


Hi Don,I am another Canadian working as photographer for TORONTO STAR in 1972 using AP Bureau at Saigon.
My question is: Are you tracking only living people. Two reporters working with me are dead now.

Cheers,
Boris SPREMO,C.M.
Toronto

www.borisspremo.com

Bill Cunningham

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Don
 
Van Praagh still at Carlton as far as I know but will check.
cunningham


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Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 9:25 AM
To: vietnam-...@googlegroups.com

Bill Cunningham

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Jul 28, 2009, 10:16:33 AM7/28/09
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Boris,
 
Who was the guy who mistook the symbols on the ICC group?  I remember him clearly as a sailor and really nice guy but can't for the life of me remember his name?
cunningham


From: vietnam-...@googlegroups.com [mailto:vietnam-...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Boris Spremo
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 10:09 AM

To: vietnam-...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: LOOKING FOR OLD HACKS - help us find old colleagues.

Bill Cunningham

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Jul 28, 2009, 11:43:08 AM7/28/09
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Carl,
 
CBC's Joe Schlesinger wants to come aboard. His email. joe-sch...@sympatico.ca
cunningham  


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Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 6:57 PM
To: vietnam-...@googlegroups.com

Derek Williams

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Jul 28, 2009, 11:49:34 AM7/28/09
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Hi Bill: Joe has been sent an invitation.
It'll be great to have him on board!
cheers
Derek

Boris Spremo

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on 7/28/09 10:16 AM, Bill Cunningham at billcun...@sympatico.ca wrote:

Boris,

Who was the guy who mistook the symbols on the ICC group?  I remember him clearly as a sailor and really nice guy but can't for the life of me remember his name?
cunningham



Hi Bill,

Wow! You still remember that! That was Ausi Jack Cahill...he pas a way 3-4 yrs. a go. Before Jack it was Mark Geyan.

How are you? Are you in retirement now? I retire in 2000 and now I have more fun then ever.Playing tennis,boating,cottage,travel,photography,visiting friends e.c.t. It was beautifull 40 years doing something that I was always wondering why I am getting pay for.

Cheers,

Boris

Don Hirst

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Jul 28, 2009, 1:08:57 PM7/28/09
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Thanks for the update, Dave. Glad things are going well for you and
your wife.

Quick update on me: Married for 30 years in January 2010. Wife is
special education vision teacher. We have two children, both grown,
with youngest just earning her BA in education (also in special ed--
vision) and should start teaching this fall. Son graduated from The
Citadel in 2006 and now works for Verizon. Strong chance he will
become member of Maryland National Guard in near future, with ultimate
aim of helicopter pilot training.

As for myself, after Vietnam, set up Overseas Weekly bureau in
Okinawa, then decamped for job with Army Times newspaper, where I
remained for nearly 12 years as an associate editor. (Nominated for,
but didn't win, 1979 Pulitzer for national reporting; broke story
about highly secret intel estimates of North Korean military strength
that ultimately led to President Carter backing away from campaign
promise to remove U.S. ground forces from South Korea.)

Lured away to create and run Salute Magazine, which I did for 20 years
or so. Then tried hand at real estate, but left to return to
journalism (had assistant editor job for about two years with a small
paper that was part of the Tribune empire). Landed a federal job in
2008, departing Tribune some months before the chapter 11 implosion.
Work nights in DC with the Government Printing Office, helping to
proofread the Congressional Record (it's a daily, so deadlines can be
fun). We hope to be able to retire and head south in about four years
or so (with luck, the real estate market for existing home sales will
improve by then).

This site is great -- and it's nice to see that so many of us are
still around.

All the best,

Don Hirst, formerly of Overseas Weekly

On Jul 27, 6:45�pm, "David Lamb" <lam...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Thanks, Don. I remember you well. I took a buyout from LATimes in 2004 after 34 years--just before the roof fell in. My wife and I live in Alexandria, VA, near DC. I do some free lancing for Smithsonian magazine and other, but am careful not to work too hard. Best, Dave Lamb
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: vietnam-...@googlegroups.com [mailto:vietnam-...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Don Hirst
> Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 5:56 PM
> To: Vietnam Old Hacks
> Subject: Re: LOOKING FOR OLD HACKS - help us find old colleagues.
>
> Dave, somehow part of the e-mail address didn't appear on this site.
> It's threlkel...@gmail.com.

Philip Scheffler

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In case you don't already have it, Morley Safer's email is M...@cbsnews.com

ps

don kirk

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Thanks. Sorry about the ones who've passed away. I wd certainly like to know about them -- though not sure what the list is doing about the deceased. You thinking of Mark Gayn of Toronto Star, whom I encountered all over East Asia, from Japan to Indonesia, assume must have made it to Vietnam?
Don

--- On Tue, 7/28/09, Boris Spremo <boris...@rogers.com> wrote:

From: Boris Spremo <boris...@rogers.com>
Subject: Re: LOOKING FOR OLD HACKS - help us find old colleagues.

wagne...@aol.com

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Jul 28, 2009, 3:54:14 PM7/28/09
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Derek:

May I please become a daily digest participant as well? 

Cheers,

Dick



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Sent: Mon, Jul 27, 2009 11:12 pm
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Holger Jensen

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Jul 28, 2009, 5:41:54 PM7/28/09
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Carl or anyone else in the group,
Can someone recognize this guy? He was a freelance photog wounded with
me at Dong Ha during the North Vietnamese invasion of Quang Tri
Province. I took this picture on the medevac to Da Nang. Other Pic is
of Vo Nguyen of CBS or NBC, can't remember which.
Holger

Dong Ha 10.jpg
Dong Ha 9.jpg

Bill Cunningham

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Jul 28, 2009, 5:48:25 PM7/28/09
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Don,
 
I was in Hong Kong while Mark Gayn was there. Our wives were both Hungarians so we saw a lot of each other even after we both came back to Toronto. He has passed away but either my wife or I have seen or heard of his wife since then. 
cunningham  


From: vietnam-...@googlegroups.com [mailto:vietnam-...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of don kirk
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 3:19 PM
To: vietnam-...@googlegroups.com

Subject: Re: LOOKING FOR OLD HACKS - help us find old colleagues.
Thanks. Sorry about the ones who've passed away. I wd certainly like to know about them -- though not sure what the list is doing about the deceased. You thinking of Mark Gayn of Toronto Star, whom I encountered all over East Asia, from Japan to Indonesia, assume must have made it to Vietnam?
Don

--- On Tue, 7/28/09, Boris Spremo <boris...@rogers.com> wrote:

From: Boris Spremo <boris...@rogers.com>
Subject: Re: LOOKING FOR OLD HACKS - help us find old colleagues.
To: vietnam-...@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, July 28, 2009, 10:08 AM





And another Canadian, David Van Praagh, one-time Toronto Globe and Mail, based in Delhi and Singapore, in and out of Vietnam. Also wrote for WashStar. Last heard from teaching at Carleton or some such, writing occasionally for Ottawa Citizen.
Don


Hi Don,I am another Canadian working as photographer for TORONTO STAR in 1972 using AP Bureau at Saigon.
My question is: Are you tracking only living people. Two reporters working with me are dead now.

Cheers,
Boris SPREMO,C.M.
Toronto

www.borisspremo.com


peter m herford

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Vo was NBC and brilliant. Don't I know it as a CBSer.

cheers

peter

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Haney Howell

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Jul 28, 2009, 6:13:30 PM7/28/09
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Steve Bell of ABC retired from a second life at Ball State University
in 2007. I once had his email but it doesn't come to hand. I'll keep
digging.

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Fredbr...@aol.com

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Jul 28, 2009, 6:26:16 PM7/28/09
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Dear Bill,
 
    Just skimming  "old hacks" messages, I just saw that your wife is Hungarian? If so, we have something in common, as I am married to Zsuzsa Beres, a Hungarian, and presently spend most of the year in Budapest (visiting Santa Barbara regularly).
 
    Did we know each other in the old days? Your name is somehow familiar. I was in Laos.
 
    Sincerely,
 
    Fred Branfman
 

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Jul 28, 2009, 9:17:20 PM7/28/09
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Let's try to get the last name of the great NBC cameraman spelled correctly.
 
It's Vo Huynh (pronounced Win), and is not Nguyen.
 
He gave me his card and that's the spelling. Last heard living in New Jersey.
 
We should also try to find Garrick Utley.
 
Jack Laurence

Bill Cunningham

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Fred,
 
I'm sorry I dont recall meeting you in Laos. I was only there a couple of times and about the only one I remember of our group was Ms.  Holt. My wife was a 56er coming to Canada in 57.
we live in toronto but spend about six months a year in florida. would be glad to get together for a glass of "Bulls Blood" in either place. 
phone 416 925 2909 
20 scrivener sqr
toronto 
 
cant give you florida address yet going down tomorrow to finalize purchase of new house and we have yet to install phones etc. will pass this info on to group when it is all set up which should be shortly.
 
bill cunningham  

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don kirk

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Fred,
Remember you well from Laos -- may have been around when TD Allman was terrorizing the American establishment there. Wasn't Jerry Doolittle the press attache at the time? (He's since written high-selling novels.) Good to see where you are these days.
Don

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Fredbr...@aol.com

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Dear Bill,
 
    I'll take you up on your offer in the unlikely event I come through Toronto or Florida. Ditto if you come through Budapest - has your wife ever been back?
 
    Sincerely,
 
    Fred
 

Fred Branfman
Hungary- 3620-234-8470
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U.S.- 27 W. Anapamu St., #352
Santa Barbara, CA 93101
805-284-4018
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peter m herford

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Jul 29, 2009, 12:21:51 AM7/29/09
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gar...@rcn.com this is the email I have for Garrick
cheers

peter

Jim Laurie

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Jul 29, 2009, 1:08:00 AM7/29/09
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Jack et al
 
Just flew into Hongkers from New York.
 
Great to see so many names out of the past coming together.
I belong to two of these forums - Chinapol for the China watching gang and this one - and vietnam-old-hacks is
much more fun.
 
Garrick Utley is at the State University of New York, appears on WNET's World in Focus
regularly and can be reached through the Levin institute at SUNY.
 
A few others who might be interested in joining.   Julian Manyon - still dodging bullets for ITN,
George Lewis of NBC - still churning out stories in LA, and maybe Bill Dowell now living in Switzerland.
And a footnote to the great Walter's passing - a few years back I ran into Eric Cavaliero - who brought the
news of Saigon's surrender to the Cronkite broadcast on April 30, 1975.  
 
The list goes on...
 
bests
 
 
 
Jim Laurie
Director of Broadcasting
Journalism Media Studies Centre
University of Hong Kong
852 2219 4013
852 096 3416

don kirk

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Jul 29, 2009, 1:16:33 AM7/29/09
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Jim,
Eric, a wandering Brit hack who'd worked for half a dozen papers before pitching up in Saigon, also wrote for a Honolulu paper, stayed on for a year and a half after "the fall," was kicked out, then gravitated to Hong Kong, where he worked as editorial writer for the Standard for number of years until retirement. Wonder if he's still there.
Don

--- On Wed, 7/29/09, Jim Laurie <jla...@pacific.net.hk> wrote:

jla...@pacific.net.hk

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Jul 29, 2009, 1:30:53 AM7/29/09
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hi Don - Eric left the HK Standard about five years ago.
BTW - speaking of the after-the-fall period... recently came across a photo of my mentor - the late Neil Davis and the late Frances Starner sipping c&agrave; ph&ecirc; s&#7919;a &#273;&aacute;
at Givrals in May 1975. If I knew how - I'd post it ...

>
> From: don kirk <kir...@yahoo.com>
> Date: Jul 29, 2009 01:16 PM
> To: vietnam-...@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: LOOKING FOR OLD HACKS
>
> Jim,
> Eric, a wandering Brit hack who'd worked for half a dozen papers before pitching up in Saigon, also wrote for a Honolulu paper,?stayed on for a year and a half after "the fall," was kicked out, then gravitated to Hong Kong, where he worked as editorial writer for the Standard for number of years until retirement. Wonder if he's still there.
> Don
>
> --- On Wed, 7/29/09, Jim Laurie <jla...@pacific.net.hk> wrote:
>
>
> From: Jim Laurie <jla...@pacific.net.hk>
> Subject: Re: LOOKING FOR OLD HACKS
> To: vietnam-...@googlegroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, July 29, 2009, 1:08 AM
>
>
>
>
>
> Jack et al
> ?
> Just flew into Hongkers from New York.
> ?
> Great to see so many names out of the past coming together.
> I belong to two of these?forums - Chinapol for the China watching gang and this one - and vietnam-old-hacks is
> much more fun.
> ?
> Garrick Utley is at the State University of New York, appears on WNET's World in Focus
> regularly and can be reached through the Levin institute at SUNY.
> ?
> A few others who might be interested in joining.?? Julian Manyon - still dodging bullets for ITN,
> George Lewis of NBC - still churning out stories in LA,?and maybe Bill Dowell now living in Switzerland.
> And a footnote to?the great Walter's passing - a?few years back I ran into Eric Cavaliero - who brought the
> news of Saigon's surrender to the Cronkite broadcast on April 30, 1975.??
> ?
> The list goes on...
> ?
> bests
> ?
> ?
> ?
> Jim Laurie
> Director of Broadcasting
> Journalism Media Studies Centre
> University of Hong Kong
> 852 2219 4013
> 852 096 3416
> jla...@hku.hk
> ?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Philoso...@aol.com
> To: vietnam-...@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 9:17 AM
> Subject: Re: LOOKING FOR OLD HACKS - Anyone recognize this guy?
>
>
> Let's try to get the last name of the great NBC cameraman spelled correctly.
> ?
> It's Vo Huynh (pronounced Win), and is not Nguyen.
> ?
> He gave me his card and that's the spelling. Last heard living in New Jersey.
> ?
> We should also try to find Garrick Utley.
> ?
> Jack Laurence
>
>
> >
>
>

don kirk

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Jul 29, 2009, 1:45:08 AM7/29/09
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Sounds like a great one. A lot of people remember Neil Davis but maybe not so many knew Frances Starner, displaced college professor who took up writiing for Far Eastern Review from Saigon, Bangkok, elsewhere.  (I last saw her in Cambodia in 1985, tenth anniversary visit. She passed away a few years later.) I'm sure Carl -- and others -- will know how to get it on there, they've posted a lot already. (Me, I'm lucky to know how to look up the site.)
Don

--- On Wed, 7/29/09, jla...@pacific.net.hk <jla...@pacific.net.hk> wrote:

From: jla...@pacific.net.hk <jla...@pacific.net.hk>
Subject: Re: Re: LOOKING FOR OLD HACKS
To: vietnam-...@googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, July 29, 2009, 1:30 AM


hi Don -  Eric left the HK Standard about five years ago.
BTW - speaking of the after-the-fall period...  recently came across a photo of my mentor - the late Neil Davis and the late Frances Starner sipping c&agrave; ph&ecirc; sữa đ&aacute;

Carl Robinson

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Jul 29, 2009, 1:57:44 AM7/29/09
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Hi, Jim -- and welcome back to HK. (i've wondered you've been!)
Yes, for photos, that's easy. Go to "files" and uplift your photo
with a slug line like JimLaurie-1 and -2 etc. (You'll see the format
i'm trying to implement there, mainly to keep various collections
together.) Frances helped George & Co keep the AP Saigon Bureau
going after the Fall of Saigon in '75.

Re others, we've got George Lewis but need contact info on Julian
Manyon (ITN) and Bill Dowell, if you can track down.

And for Bill & Fred, i'm glad we're getting the Hungarian wives
together -- that's a most unexpected bonus !!! Best, Carl

Carl Robinson

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Jul 29, 2009, 2:01:58 AM7/29/09
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Re to famous Vo Brothers of NBC Fame. There was Vo Suu and Vo Huynh,
as I recall. We must include them -- or at least advise them of our
group and what we're up to after all these years. Any other Viet
staffers around ? AP's Mr Trinh died in California some years back
but we're trying to find Thai who helped me cover domestic politics &
stuff, last heard from in Minneapolis-St Paul area Cheers, Carl

Bob Davis

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Jul 29, 2009, 2:12:47 AM7/29/09
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Hi Jim,
My first boss Neil Davis centre at the Department of Film Department Hobart
David Brill and I used to sting for him when he went to ABC usually at
weekends when he wanted to play footie.
Best
Bob Davis
see you round the club.
Neil Davis Photo Bob Davis©.tif
Neil Davis Photo Bob Davis©.tif

tony clifton

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Jul 29, 2009, 4:03:38 AM7/29/09
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Talking of Brit hacks.. Michael Nicholson... from ITN in those days, I
think, was there and has done various commemorative programs since (I
babbled on one). He would be well known to Brit hacks reading this...I also
wonder whether we should contact Phil Knightley,. who takes some pride in
the fact that he has never heard a shot fired in anger, but who wrote the
definitive book on warcos, called memorably, "The first casualty", and is
still a major player in the doings of our trade...


----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 3:57 PM
Subject: Re: LOOKING FOR OLD HACKS


>

Philoso...@aol.com

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Jul 29, 2009, 5:40:31 AM7/29/09
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Phillip Knightley, an Aussie, has not seen Vietnam or SE Asia at war, nor heard a shot fired in anger on any battlefield. I see him in London from time to time and he's in fine, aging fettle like all of us.
 
 
 

Carl Robinson

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Jul 29, 2009, 6:10:03 AM7/29/09
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From Mort Rosemblum -- and me:

Re Knightley,

horst was furious with knightley for years, probably still is, for
quoting him seriously as describing his motive for covering war: "i
like ze boom-boom, oh yas." it was a tongue-in-cheek remark referring
to something other than artillery fire.

mort

And Carl adds: Yes, that was from an interview with Horst Faas that
appeared in an article by Oriana Fallaci where she didn't quite get
what he was really saying over that long eye-rolling lunch at the
Royale Hotel -- as in perhaps some other sort of boom-boom. (A
nooner, perhaps? ) When the article came out, he was furious, of
course -- and then even more so when Knightley quoted him in his
book. The quote made him look like a war freak and he thought
seriously of suing. Say, i like Phillip and know him from his
visits down here, but he's really more of a "hack watcher" isn't
he ??! Cheers.

Tracy Wood

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Jul 29, 2009, 12:13:13 PM7/29/09
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UPI's Nguyen Anh Tuyet has been a reporter for DPA for many years,
covering the UN. Carl, could you invite him to join? His contact info
is:
J. Tuyet Nguyen
UN Correspondent
German Press Agency dpa
United Nations Room 352
Tel: 212-319-6626
Fax: 212-753-6168
Email: Nat...@aol.com

Tracy Wood


John Giannini

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Jul 29, 2009, 12:24:54 PM7/29/09
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Looking at the members list, which can be tough to decipher, it
appear that neither Bernie Kalb, Barry Kalb (no relation to Bernie)
or Stanley Karnow are on the list. Bernie and Stanley are in DC.
Barry is in HK.

Cheers, JG

Derek Williams

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Jul 29, 2009, 12:39:55 PM7/29/09
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Hi John: Bernie Kalb already has a standing invitation, so the software will not let me issue a new one.

FYI his email address is < bk...@earthlink.net >

cheers

Derek

mike

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Jul 29, 2009, 7:02:17 PM7/29/09
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Speaklng of Brits, and going waaay back in Laos, I wonder if
anybody knows what happened to Brian Doody, who strung for Reuters
around 1960 or so. Reuters stringers were even more poorly paid than
UPI staffers; Doody lived in a kind of hut on the roof of the
Constellation.
From the same time and place, does anybody know what happened to
Peter and Sanda Simms? This green, gauche, college dropout thought
they were the most gracious and cultured people he had even met. And
Sanda was one of the prettiest.
Peter worked for a couple of British outfits. He and Sanda later
wrote a couple of books about Laos. Sanda was a Shan princess and
daughter of the first president of Burma. I was startled to see her a
couple of years ago, smiling from the front row of a picture of the
royal family, in the palace (now a museum) in Keng Tung.
Another Brit I'd like to see hear about some day is Adam Raphael.
He worked in Saigon for Reuters, I think it was, in the mid-sixties,
and had an amazing, trained cat. I heard he was with the BBC in
London, quite a few years ago.
Mike




On Jul 24, 4:26 am, Carl Robinson <robinsoncar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> We need your continued assistance tracking down more "old hacks" from
> Vietnam War, plus Cambodia and Laos.  Please use -- and regularly
> check -- this "discussion" topic to help us track down our former
> colleagues.  Even if you're just providing a name and period, others
> might well know where they are and how to reach them.  (Sadly, we
> might also be hearing of those who have already passed on.)  So, this
> is an "active" site.
>
> As a general statement, we seem to be short of newspaper types.  NY
> Times, Wx Post and others.  Any idea where Woody Dickerman of Newsday
> might be ?   Radio and TV also need beefing up.   UPI has done well
> but we need more ex-AP folks.   (Where is John Wheeler, for example?
> Lynn Newland?  Willis Johnson? )
>
> At the same time, we are short on non-American "old hacks."    We need
> more Brits, French, Germans and other nationalities.   In Asia, where
> are the Japanese correspondents, cameramen and photographers?
> Koreans?
>
> We now have over 135 members, but these also include those who covered
> Indochina after 1975, family members, those with a strong interest in
> the region and others who are mutual friends.   (Please assist by
> creating "profiles" and uploading a picture.)   Hopefully, you can
> read the "members" list but please advise if not.
>
> We look forward to your continued assistance with this amazing
> project.
>
> For personal communications, please contact "robinsoncar...@gmail.com"
> and/or "dere...@gmail.com".

keith kay

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Jul 29, 2009, 7:24:59 PM7/29/09
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"Adam, introduced me to CBS News when I returned to VN after the army got their two year pound of flesh from me.

If not for Adam I might be living in a travel trailer in Wimberley, TX .

For me, Adam was last seen/heard on BBC radio.

Keith
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

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Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 16:02:17
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Subject: Re: LOOKING FOR OLD HACKS - help us find old colleagues.



David Lamb

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Jul 29, 2009, 8:47:53 PM7/29/09
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Carl,
Very good suggestion on adding Vietnamese to the group. Would you
invite Loc Pham, UPI's Saigon bureau manager for many years, from the '60s
to '75, I think. He was a huge help to all of us in bureau and did
reporting, even though that wasn't in his job title. He lives in Frederick
MD loc.p...@gmail.com
Another colleague to offer in invitation to: Bob Kaylor, UPI/Saigon
'60s, who lives in Chevy Chase, MD bobk...@msn.com
Thanks. David Lamb

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