[videoblogging] Looking for a video podcast hostess
Sian Reynolds
video podcast hostess. What would be the most effective way to spread
the word about this opportunity? Or do you know anyone who might be
interested?
Thanks,
Sian Reynolds
TravelGolf.com is looking for a video hostess to do video podcasts from
her own home studio. This casting call is not region specific, (expats
welcome)
We will be launching a daily and a weekly video series. These videos
will be syndicated to many other portals throughout the world.
We reach over 2.4 million golfers a month via 40 online golf
publications, We are the world's largest network of golf publications.
If you are vivacious, hot, attractive and you have ability to get
viewership, well, you could be famous. For examples of what we like, go
to 88slide.com.
To apply go to....
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Josh Leo
What is the main reason you are looking for a woman to host?
is it sex appeal?
why not someone with knowledge of golf?
why not anyone with a passion for golf or an exciting video-presence?
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You should try some of these for casting:
http://mandy.com/
http://onemodelplace.com/
http://craigslist.com
Is knowledge of golf a prerequisite?
I have a couple female golfer friends back in Indiana that I could forward this to, if so.
You would have to be the judge of their h0ttness.
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Can anyone out there help me with this? ....... We are looking to hire a
video podcast hostess. What would be the most effective way to spread
the word about this opportunity? Or do you know anyone who might be
interested?
Thanks,
Sian Reynolds
TravelGolf.com is looking for a video hostess to do video podcasts from
her own home studio. This casting call is not region specific, (expats
welcome)
We will be launching a daily and a weekly video series. These videos
will be syndicated to many other portals throughout the world.
We reach over 2.4 million golfers a month via 40 online golf
publications, We are the world's largest network of golf publications.
If you are vivacious, hot, attractive and you have ability to get
viewership, well, you could be famous. For examples of what we like, go
to 88slide.com.
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> What is the main reason you are looking for a woman to host?
>
> is it sex appeal?
> why not someone with knowledge of golf?
> why not anyone with a passion for golf or an exciting video-presence?
Boobs trumphs golf.
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"Boobs trumphs golf."
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>Can anyone out there help me with this? ....... We are looking to hire a
>video podcast hostess. What would be the most effective way to spread
>the word about this opportunity? Or do you know anyone who might be
>interested?
I can put on a pretty good girly voice, and I know that golf involves
a club, a ball and a hole. I'm also an equal opportunity employee.
Please reply off list if interested.
Regards,
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Casey McKinnon
are over 40... they love being in the company of a young woman. My
bet is that this video-podcast will cater to middle age men... so I
can understand their marketing strategy for looking for a young
attractive woman.
Besides, don't men eventually lose the whole boob fascination eventually?
Casey
http://www.galacticast.com/
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> > why not someone with knowledge of golf?
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Most people (both men and women) find women much more appealing to
look at than a man. A sweet voice and smooth skin is easier to
"relate" to than a deep voice coming out of a hairy being.
Of course, there are always exceptions but this is the general theory
for radio, print and TV. Hence why most advertising is done w/ women
models rather than men.
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> Comon you guys, quit being so coy. You know why they want a
"vivacious, hot,
> attractive" woman. There are plenty of examples of how this model works.
> It's a TV thing that's spreading to videoblogging. It's all about
reaching
> that target demographic.
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> > > Looking for someone a wee bit less vivacious, Heath. Thanks, though.
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Richard BF wrote:
At 17:46 +0200 10/5/06, Sian Reynolds wrote:Can anyone out there help me with this? ....... We are looking to hire a video podcast hostess. What would be the most effective way to spread the word about this opportunity? Or do you know anyone who might be interested?I can put on a pretty good girly voice, and I know that golf involves a club, a ball and a hole. I'm also an equal opportunity employee. Please reply off list if interested. Regards, Richard
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Can anyone out there help me with this? ....... We are looking to hire a
Thanks,
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> Now, I'm not sure if it's the beer or the girl, but if I were running
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objects" thing........... :)
I don't know I still think I look pretty sexy, maybe the last photo
didn't do me justice.......maybe this one is better
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I'm the one in the wig...
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The boob is a metonym. :o)
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boooobies
*grunt*
Lose the boob fascination? When I aint breathing any more.
Seriously though...golf is boring to watch. Plain and Simple. I'm a
golfer and I cant stand watching it on TV. Now...combine some bewbies
into the mix and...
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I hate having to defend myself about shit like this. Funnytheworld, eh?
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Josh, you say fight the boob, I say embrace the boob.
Boob marketing is a fact of life.
If I were running a golf show, a hot young lady might be a necessity. I don't know how many of you golf, but I have been on several occasions, and one of the highlights of the day is 4 guys chatting up the beer cart girl.
LeanBackVids.com
and simply asked for help finding a "video podcast hostess".
Rather than being freindly and helpful, many users would rather flame
his business plan. That is not very communal.
Adam Quirk was the only one who provided a helpful response by
providing the following sites.
Why try to make this into some big "women as objects" argument?
It is his site and he knows what he wants. Making Sian look like some
sexist person trying to exploit women is rude.
I highly doubt anything said about women in advertising will change
the fact that women "sell" to more people than men.
-Matt
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> Let's rephrase the original proposal for what it is:
>
> Can anyone out there help me with this? ....... We are looking to hire a
> an object that is sexually arousing to our main demographic to host
our show
> avout golf. What would be the most effective way to spread the word
about
> this opportunity to continue to treat women as objects, use their
bodies as
> marketing tools, and perpetuate this practice in new forms of media?
Or do
> you know anyone who might be interested in selling their good looks for
> financial gain?
> Thanks,
>
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thought of was Streaming Beer.
You are a true visionary!
Perhaps we should define early: beelogging v beercasting
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check out craigslist, that is what Andrew of Rocketboom did and it seems to have worked for him!
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Josh Leo wrote:
ok then, well I will keep my ideas/opinions to myself and say
LeanBackVids.com
anyone who reads between the lines well see your opinion.
I want to hear your opinions!... but it is sad to see an innocent
question/person get flamed. It proves yet another example of why
newbies may not post here.
If you or I had asked the question, we may be able to take the heat
since we know the regulars here. However, for a new person to get
crap from multiple people is the quickest way to lose a member.
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Steve Garfield and I participated in a beercast in Cambridge about a
year ago; I think he even vlogged it.
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Why try to make this into some big "women as objects" argument?
Because humans as a race are generally very bitter beings and enjoy harrassing the hell out of the ones whose ideas they don't agree with.
And yeah, please by all means voice your opinion, but keep the flames away from the fresh meat.
This group consistently brings Douglas Adams quotes to my mind:
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I guess we all have a little troll in us. - Matt
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Now who's trying to turn this into an argument it is not? :o)
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> If I were running a golf show, a hot young lady might be a necessity. I
> don't
> know how many of you golf, but I have been on several occasions, and one
> of the
> highlights of the day is 4 guys chatting up the beer cart girl.
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> http://www.golfpublisher.com/channel_detail.html?ch=63
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On Wed, 10 May 2006 19:19:21 +0200, Charles HOPE <cha...@blip.tv> wrote:If I were running a golf show, a hot young lady might be a necessity. I don't know how many of you golf, but I have been on several occasions, and one of the highlights of the day is 4 guys chatting up the beer cart girl. http://www.golfpublisher.com/channel_detail.html?ch=63WTF, I thought Ron was using a figure of speech. Now I want video.
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in the least. Well, maybe a little, but it's all in fun.
I hope you have luck finding a hottie for your golfcast.
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being treated as an object. And if I gain a little weight my boobs
fill out quite nicely.
I need a boob scotch.
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so I
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> > > eventually?
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host?
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> > > > > why not someone with knowledge of golf?
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I have no desire to "lose the whole boob fascination".
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> Besides, don't men eventually lose the whole boob fascination
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Yes they do, when they die. Except for Josh Leo who apparently finds
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On May 10, 2006, at 2:02 PM, Andy Carvin wrote:
> fyi...
>
> http://beercasting.com/
>
> Steve Garfield and I participated in a beercast in Cambridge about a
> year ago; I think he even vlogged it.
>
> andy
>
>
> --- In videob...@yahoogroups.com, Ron Watson <k9disc@...> wrote:
>>
>> Beercasting, my GOD, MAN! You're really onto something. And all I
>> thought of was Streaming Beer.
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>> You are a true visionary!
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That's not how I read his comments, but okay. :)
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It's the "we've got a show that needs a face, or something in front of it...talking"...."I know, let's get a hottie"...as some have mentioned, that's their prerogative, if that's what they want, I guess that's what they want.
I (as I am assuming Josh was) was surprised that here we have this new media, this new chance to try to avoid the pitfalls of traditional media and we have those who are going for the easy hook...skin, sex, whatever.
Personally, it would be great to watch a vodcast, episodic style videoblog that didn't have the trophy hottie...if for no other reason than to prove to some women that we do actually watch for the content.
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> I (as I am assuming Josh was) was surprised that here we have this new
> media, this new chance to try to avoid the pitfalls of traditional
media and
> we have those who are going for the easy hook...skin, sex, whatever.
Pitfalls? Many "shows" are built with the intended goal of getting a
large viewership. Are they in the wrong for using a proven method of
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humans find a female more visually appealing than a male.
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vlog, his name is Al Lien. Now tell me he's not sexy--and he always
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--- In videob...@yahoogroups.com, Devlon <duthied@...> wrote:
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> For what it's worth, since this thread has totally gone awry
anyway...I
> don't think it's boobs that are the offensive thing here. I am a
big fan of
> boobs myself....and all them other parts.
>
> It's the "we've got a show that needs a face, or something in
front of
> it...talking"...."I know, let's get a hottie"...as some have
mentioned,
> that's their prerogative, if that's what they want, I guess that's
what they
> want.
>
> I (as I am assuming Josh was) was surprised that here we have this
new
> media, this new chance to try to avoid the pitfalls of traditional
media and
> we have those who are going for the easy hook...skin, sex,
whatever.
>
> Personally, it would be great to watch a vodcast, episodic style
videoblog
> that didn't have the trophy hottie...if for no other reason than
to prove to
> some women that we do actually watch for the content.
>
> On 5/10/06, Bill Streeter <bill@...> wrote:
> >
> > --- In videob...@yahoogroups.com, "Casey McKinnon" <mskitka@>
> > wrote:
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> > > Besides, don't men eventually lose the whole boob fascination
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Charles HOPE
Why are you generalizing our culture's devaluation of masculinity as a broad human condition? The ancient Greeks, for instance...
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> I (as I am assuming Josh was) was surprised that here we have this new
> media, this new chance to try to avoid the pitfalls of traditional
media and
> we have those who are going for the easy hook...skin, sex, whatever.
Pitfalls? Many "shows" are built with the intended goal of getting a
large viewership.
Of course, or they wouldn't be putting the effort into creating it. The effort of creating content that is compelling. Some take the high road, they focus on the content, not the fancy wrapping.
Are they in the wrong for using a proven method of
marketing? It is a business decision and that is it. Again, most
humans find a female more visually appealing than a male.
Don't blame traditional media...
I can't find anyone else that is more responsible for it.
people like it and it works.
Yup, people love it, especially those young girls who are growing up in a world that tells them that they can't be famous, or on tv, or such things unless they are 'hot'. They love it while they loathe themselves when they look in the mirror and compare themselves to what traditional media has taught us women should look like....yeah, they love it ;)
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> I (as I am assuming Josh was) was surprised that here we have this new
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media and
> we have those who are going for the easy hook...skin, sex, whatever.
Pitfalls? Many "shows" are built with the intended goal of getting a
large viewership.
Are they in the wrong for using a proven method of
marketing? It is a business decision and that is it. Again, most
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Don't blame traditional media...
people like it and it works.
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to say that women are above being influenced in a similar way. We
are all human beings after all--who at our core are basically just
big hairless horny apes who just like to think we're pretty clever.
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<monique@...> wrote:
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> I have to add one thing. I am a woman. I consider myself a
feminist. But I
> still think that this thread is too funny.
>
> Men are very simple creatures - it's a fact of life. I interact
with lots
> of high level execs. And let me tell you weather a guy is 14 or
67, blue
> collar or highly educated, he's got a soft spot for pretty women.
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I am not even debating whether boobs are cool or not (they are of course...I am close personal friends with a certain pair actually)
My point is that regardless of how powerful sex can be as a sales tool, as a hook...why do we need to perpetuate it? Especially in a time when we as content creators have the greatest power.
Why point at stats and figures and say 'hey it works...' instead of saying 'hm...that really doesn't work, how can we do it different'?
Wikipedia has a good page on how "sexuality is considered one of the
most powerful tools of marketing and particularly advertising."
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Anyway - this is what the panel I'm organizing for vloggercon will be about. Should be interesting.
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On 5/10/06, Devlon <dut...@gmail.com> wrote:I (as I am assuming Josh was) was surprised that here we have this new media, this new chance to try to avoid the pitfalls of traditional media and we have those who are going for the easy hook...skin, sex, whatever.You know what Devlon, I'm not surprised at all. This is a subject that I've thinking and talking about for a while now. Here we have this new medium and all people want to do is copy what's come before.
Yeah, I guess It's because it's easy, it's proven, as Matt pointed out. Instead of coming up with creative ways to get someone's attention we slip into the 'norm' instead of blazing a trail.
It would be great to overhear 'watercooler' talk about the latest video because of the message (remember that, the message?) or how it was presented not because of the size of the rack the prominant female had.
Anyway - this is what the panel I'm organizing for vloggercon will be about. Should be interesting.
Cool, can't wait.
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Thanks Josh :)
I for one never used to pay attention to this type of thing, I was a sheep, show me something cool and I'll dumbly watch. But after you talk to people that see through this and are aware of the social impact that this has, and start seeing the effect yourself in people you know and care about...that's when it really hits home.
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>
> Anyway - this is what the panel I'm organizing for vloggercon will
be about.
> Should be interesting.
Crazy how an simple question of "where can i find a hostess" turns
into an all-day discussion of sexism in media.
Of course no body should stop that conversation for people who want to
argue theories, but will new people ever post again after igniting
themselves on fire?
Most likely a person will revert to being a "lurker" and not subject
themselves to the heat again. Don't get me wrong, I love this group
and enjoy hearing the opinions of others. (If you haven't noticed
yet, I like to vocalize my opinions too.)
But there is a side-effect to having such an intense group. It
doesn't feel as warm and cozy as it once did.
Maybe we can all bring matches and rocks to the Vloggercon panel so
that we can really burn and stone the people we disagree with.
Just kidding... hopefully there is still a sense of humor.
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On 5/10/06, Josh Leo <jos...@gmail.com> wrote:Devlon, a man after my own heart
Thanks Josh :)
I for one never used to pay attention to this type of thing, I was a sheep, show me something cool and I'll dumbly watch. But after you talk to people that see through this and are aware of the social impact that this has, and start seeing the effect yourself in people you know and care about...that's when it really hits home.
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>> Anyway - this is what the panel I'm organizing for vloggercon will
be about.
> Should be interesting.
Crazy how an simple question of "where can i find a hostess" turns
into an all-day discussion of sexism in media.
But that's exactly where it starts Matt.
Of course no body should stop that conversation for people who want to
argue theories, but will new people ever post again after igniting
themselves on fire?
I thought it was a very tame conversation. I was being very polite :) ...maybe a bit smart-assed, but that's just my way.
Most likely a person will revert to being a "lurker" and not subject
themselves to the heat again. Don't get me wrong, I love this group
and enjoy hearing the opinions of others. (If you haven't noticed
yet, I like to vocalize my opinions too.)
But there is a side-effect to having such an intense group. It
doesn't feel as warm and cozy as it once did.
I thought it was a very good discussion, I'd hate to exclude anyone from it. I think it's an important issue that bears a ton of discussion.
People weighed in on one side, and some on the other...this is how discussion works. It would have been great to have the person that posted the question participate more. Maybe there could have been ways that we as a group could have suggested to get the viewership they want without depending on window dressing?
Maybe we can all bring matches and rocks to the Vloggercon panel so
that we can really burn and stone the people we disagree with.
meh that'd just get too messy after a while.
My problem wasn't with the original person that posted the question (sorry can't remember who that was) but the school of thought that the idea was coming from. That school of thought desrves all the rocks and fire it can get.
Just kidding... hopefully there is still a sense of humor.
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I say, let's start from scratch, not do the same shit over again
Monique Danielle
to say that women are above being influenced in a similar way. We
are all human beings after all--who at our core are basically just
big hairless horny apes who just like to think we're pretty clever."
You guys really crack me up - I'm love this thread. It seems to me likes
it's all in good fun. I didn't think there was any flaming going on.
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>
> I have to add one thing. I am a woman. I consider myself a
feminist. But I
> still think that this thread is too funny.
>
> Men are very simple creatures - it's a fact of life. I interact
with lots
> of high level execs. And let me tell you weather a guy is 14 or
67, blue
> collar or highly educated, he's got a soft spot for pretty women.
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--- In videob...@yahoogroups.com, Devlon <duthied@...> wrote:
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> I am not debating the power of sex to sell, not debating whether
women are
> nice to look at either....
> I am not even debating whether boobs are cool or not (they are of
course...I
> am close personal friends with a certain pair actually)
>
> My point is that regardless of how powerful sex can be as a sales
tool, as a
> hook...why do we need to perpetuate it? Especially in a time when we as
> content creators have the greatest power.
>
> Why point at stats and figures and say 'hey it works...' instead of
saying
> 'hm...that really doesn't work, how can we do it different'?
>
> On 5/10/06, LeanBackVids.com <leanbackvids@...> wrote:
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it's all in good fun. I didn't think there was any flaming going on."
correction - it seems to me like I need to retake english 101 - ;)
I"m the queen of typos.
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> From: "Adam Quirk" bulle...@gmail.com
> Date: Wed May 10, 2006 10:17am(PDT)
> Subject: Re: Looking for a video podcast hostess
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> You're taking me way out of context. I was just trying to say that a tech
> group isn't the place to cast for actors or actresses. I would have said
> the same about a post seeking an attractive male model.
>
> I hate having to defend myself about shit like this. Funnytheworld, eh?
>
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>>>> This may not be the best place to cast for attractive female models,
>> although I guess it couldn't hurt.<<
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One thing I've learned about working at an organization where most men
are over 40... they love being in the company of a young woman. My
bet is that this video-podcast will cater to middle age men... so I
can understand their marketing strategy for looking for a young
attractive woman.
Besides, don't men eventually lose the whole boob fascination eventually?
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> On Wed, 10 May 2006 18:11:54 +0200, Josh Leo <joshleo@...> wrote:
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> > What is the main reason you are looking for a woman to host?
> >
> > is it sex appeal?
> > why not someone with knowledge of golf?
> > why not anyone with a passion for golf or an exciting video-presence?
>
> Boobs trumphs golf.
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Can anyone out there help me with this? ....... We are looking to hire a
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1. Yes, the medium will be invaded by the usual pretty people because all humans are "lookist" - part of that is genetic and will never be entirely eradicated, part of it is culture - so there's some hope.
2. However, because we can self-publish, Just Plain Folks can also put themselves in front of the camera and some of them will have a hook that draws us in and we'll watch them even if they aren't pretty. I hope that as a result we'll all subconsciously get used to the idea that you don't have to be gorgeous to be worth watching, and lookism will tone down in the general culture. After all, we already watch lots of famous people who aren't particularly attractive because they are instead funny or talented.
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Josh Leo wrote:
I have a knack for starting these explosive threads I guess. First it was Veoh, now the sexism debate... I think I might tackle the whole "show vs personal" debate next month!
On 5/11/06, Deirdre Straughan <deirdre....@gmail.com> wrote:
I suspect it's going to play out both ways as "citizen video" continues to grow.
1. Yes, the medium will be invaded by the usual pretty people because all humans are "lookist" - part of that is genetic and will never be entirely eradicated, part of it is culture - so there's some hope.
2. However, because we can self-publish, Just Plain Folks can also put themselves in front of the camera and some of them will have a hook that draws us in and we'll watch them even if they aren't pretty. I hope that as a result we'll all subconsciously get used to the idea that you don't have to be gorgeous to be worth watching, and lookism will tone down in the general culture. After all, we already watch lots of famous people who aren't particularly attractive because they are instead funny or talented.
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> Man - Josh, I think you just opened a can there with the "woman as
> objects" thing........... :)
>
>
> I don't know I still think I look pretty sexy, maybe the last photo
> didn't do me justice.......maybe this one is better
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/88273739@N00/126089870/
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> --- In videob...@yahoogroups.com, "Josh Leo" <joshleo@> wrote:
> >
> > Let's rephrase the original proposal for what it is:
> >
> > Can anyone out there help me with this? ....... We are looking to
> hire a
> > an object that is sexually arousing to our main demographic to host
> our show
> > avout golf. What would be the most effective way to spread the word
> about
> > this opportunity to continue to treat women as objects, use their
> bodies as
> > marketing tools, and perpetuate this practice in new forms of
> media? Or do
> > you know anyone who might be interested in selling their good looks
> for
> > financial gain?
> > Thanks,
> >
> >
> >
> > On 5/10/06, Ron Watson <k9disc@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Josh, you say fight the boob, I say embrace the boob.
> > > Boob marketing is a fact of life.
> > >
> > > If I were running a golf show, a hot young lady might be a
> necessity. I
> > > don't know how many of you golf, but I have been on several
> occasions, and
> > > one of the highlights of the day is 4 guys chatting up the beer
> cart girl.
> > >
> > > Now, I'm not sure if it's the beer or the girl, but if I were
> running a
> > > golf show, you can bet I would be looking for an attractive host.
> I would be
> > > racking my brain to figure out how to deliver streaming beer over
> a T1.
> > >
> > > Ron Watson
> > >
> > > Pawsitive Vybe Canines
> > > 12 E Bridge St Suite G
> > > Rockford, MI 49341
> > > k9disc@
> > > 301.524.6670
> > > http://pawsitivevybe.com
> > > http://k9disc.com
> > > http://k9disc.blip.tv
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On May 10, 2006, at 12:33 PM, Josh Leo wrote:
> > >
> > > Fight the boob marketing!
> > >
> > > On 5/10/06, Casey McKinnon <mskitka@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > One thing I've learned about working at an organization where
> most men
> > > > are over 40... they love being in the company of a young
> woman. My
> > > > bet is that this video-podcast will cater to middle age men...
> so I
> > > > can understand their marketing strategy for looking for a young
> > > > attractive woman.
> > > >
> > > > Besides, don't men eventually lose the whole boob fascination
> > > > eventually?
> > > >
> > > > Casey
> > > > http://www.galacticast.com/
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> > > > > On Wed, 10 May 2006 18:11:54 +0200, Josh Leo <joshleo@> wrote:
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> > > > > >
> > > > > > is it sex appeal?
> > > > > > why not someone with knowledge of golf?
> > > > > > why not anyone with a passion for golf or an exciting
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> ok then, well I will keep my ideas/opinions to myself and say
>
> check out craigslist, that is what Andrew of Rocketboom did and it
seems to
> have worked for him!
>
> On 5/10/06, LeanBackVids.com <leanbackvids@...> wrote:
> >
> > Josh, this is a little unfair. Sian has a marketing plan for his site
> > and simply asked for help finding a "video podcast hostess".
> >
> > Rather than being freindly and helpful, many users would rather flame
> > his business plan. That is not very communal.
> >
> > Adam Quirk was the only one who provided a helpful response by
> > providing the following sites.
> >
> > http://mandy.com/
> > http://onemodelplace.com/
> > http://craigslist.com
> >
> > Why try to make this into some big "women as objects" argument?
> >
> > It is his site and he knows what he wants. Making Sian look like some
> > sexist person trying to exploit women is rude.
> >
> > I highly doubt anything said about women in advertising will change
> > the fact that women "sell" to more people than men.
> >
> > -Matt
> >
> >
> > --- In videob...@yahoogroups.com, "Josh Leo" <joshleo@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Let's rephrase the original proposal for what it is:
> > >
> > > Can anyone out there help me with this? ....... We are looking
to hire a
> > > an object that is sexually arousing to our main demographic to host
> > our show
> > > avout golf. What would be the most effective way to spread the word
> > about
> > > this opportunity to continue to treat women as objects, use their
> > bodies as
> > > marketing tools, and perpetuate this practice in new forms of media?
> > Or do
> > > you know anyone who might be interested in selling their good
looks for
> > > financial gain?
> > > Thanks,
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--- In videob...@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Streeter" <bill@...> wrote:
>
> Yes biology is a wacky thing isn't it? But I wouldn't go so far as
> to say that women are above being influenced in a similar way. We
> are all human beings after all--who at our core are basically just
> big hairless horny apes who just like to think we're pretty clever.
>
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> --- In videob...@yahoogroups.com, "Monique Danielle"
> <monique@> wrote:
> >
> > I have to add one thing. I am a woman. I consider myself a
> feminist. But I
> > still think that this thread is too funny.
> >
> > Men are very simple creatures - it's a fact of life. I interact
> with lots
> > of high level execs. And let me tell you weather a guy is 14 or
> 67, blue
> > collar or highly educated, he's got a soft spot for pretty women.
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Now how am I going to know you're wearing it...LOL
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>
> I'm there!! I'm not above selling my body for a little cash and
> being treated as an object. And if I gain a little weight my boobs
> fill out quite nicely.
>
> I need a boob scotch.
>
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> --- In videob...@yahoogroups.com, "Josh Leo" <joshleo@> wrote:
> >
> > Let's rephrase the original proposal for what it is:
> >
> > Can anyone out there help me with this? ....... We are looking to
> hire a
> > an object that is sexually arousing to our main demographic to
> host our show
> > avout golf. What would be the most effective way to spread the
> word about
> > this opportunity to continue to treat women as objects, use their
> bodies as
> > marketing tools, and perpetuate this practice in new forms of
> media? Or do
> > you know anyone who might be interested in selling their good
> looks for
> > financial gain?
> > Thanks,
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> > Besides, don't men eventually lose the whole boob fascination
eventually?
>
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I'm another female who is inspired by this discussion rather than
humiliated or enflamed by it.
I think Josh has a lot of valid points--I agree with what he is
*thinking,* but I think he may not be getting it out/slash/across in
the greatest of ways.
Sex sells, sure--because men stare at the boobs--while women stare at
the price. That's why men as hosts of a product don't matter. ;)
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> --- In videob...@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Verdi" <michael@> wrote:
> >
> > Anyway - this is what the panel I'm organizing for vloggercon will
> be about.
> > Should be interesting.
>
> Crazy how an simple question of "where can i find a hostess" turns
> into an all-day discussion of sexism in media.
>
> Of course no body should stop that conversation for people who want to
> argue theories, but will new people ever post again after igniting
> themselves on fire?
>
> Most likely a person will revert to being a "lurker" and not subject
> themselves to the heat again. Don't get me wrong, I love this group
> and enjoy hearing the opinions of others. (If you haven't noticed
> yet, I like to vocalize my opinions too.)
>
> But there is a side-effect to having such an intense group. It
> doesn't feel as warm and cozy as it once did.
>
> Maybe we can all bring matches and rocks to the Vloggercon panel so
> that we can really burn and stone the people we disagree with.
>
> Just kidding... hopefully there is still a sense of humor.
>
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--- In videob...@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Streeter" <bill@...> wrote:
>
> I have fallen into this trap myself, I have a trophy hottie on my
> vlog, his name is Al Lien. Now tell me he's not sexy--and he always
> shows his nipples.
>
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> --- In videob...@yahoogroups.com, Devlon <duthied@> wrote:
> >
> > For what it's worth, since this thread has totally gone awry
> anyway...I
> > don't think it's boobs that are the offensive thing here. I am a
> big fan of
> > boobs myself....and all them other parts.
> >
> > It's the "we've got a show that needs a face, or something in
> front of
> > it...talking"...."I know, let's get a hottie"...as some have
> mentioned,
> > that's their prerogative, if that's what they want, I guess that's
> what they
> > want.
> >
> > I (as I am assuming Josh was) was surprised that here we have this
> new
> > media, this new chance to try to avoid the pitfalls of traditional
> media and
> > we have those who are going for the easy hook...skin, sex,
> whatever.
> >
> > Personally, it would be great to watch a vodcast, episodic style
> videoblog
> > that didn't have the trophy hottie...if for no other reason than
> to prove to
> > some women that we do actually watch for the content.
> >
> > On 5/10/06, Bill Streeter <bill@> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In videob...@yahoogroups.com, "Casey McKinnon" <mskitka@>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Besides, don't men eventually lose the whole boob fascination
> > > eventually?
> > > >
> > >
> > > Yes they do, when they die. Except for Josh Leo who apparently
> finds
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--- In videob...@yahoogroups.com, "Susan" <kitykity@...> wrote:
>
> A little cash, huh? Wear one of those lofistl thongs you sell to
one
> of the nights-out at Vloggercon, and I'll give you a twenty on the
spot.
>
> Now how am I going to know you're wearing it...LOL
>
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--- In videob...@yahoogroups.com, "LeanBackVids.com"
<leanbackvids@...> wrote:
>
> I'm not sure this is a "TV thing", but rather a human thing.
>
> Most people (both men and women) find women much more appealing to
> look at than a man. A sweet voice and smooth skin is easier to
> "relate" to than a deep voice coming out of a hairy being.
>
> Of course, there are always exceptions but this is the general theory
> for radio, print and TV. Hence why most advertising is done w/ women
> models rather than men.
>
> -Matt
> -----------------------
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>
>
> --- In videob...@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Verdi" <michael@> wrote:
> >
> > Comon you guys, quit being so coy. You know why they want a
> "vivacious, hot,
> > attractive" woman. There are plenty of examples of how this model
works.
> > It's a TV thing that's spreading to videoblogging. It's all about
> reaching
> > that target demographic.
> >
> > -Verdi
> >
> >
> > On 5/10/06, Josh Leo <joshleo@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I am curious to know your logic behind this whole woman thing
> though... I
> > > know it was brought up in another thread, but it never got answered.
> > >
> > > What is the main reason you are looking for a woman to host?
> > >
> > > is it sex appeal?
> > > why not someone with knowledge of golf?
> > > why not anyone with a passion for golf or an exciting
video-presence?
> > >
> > >
> > > On 5/10/06, MN < sian@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Looking for someone a wee bit less vivacious, Heath. Thanks,
though.
> > > >
> > > > --- In videob...@yahoogroups.com, "Heath" <heathparks@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I am hot and attractive, here is a link to my photo
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/88273739@N00/126075640/
> > > > >
> > > > > Heath
> > > > >
> > > > > http://batmangeek.blogspot.com
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--- In videob...@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Sullivan"
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>
> practice here -
>
> http://www.mskitka.com/2006/05/11/a-bronchial-reply/
>
> ;-) hoohahah
>
> On 5/12/06, Jan McLaughlin <jannie.jan@...> wrote:
> >
> > Yes, bring it on, Mr. Leo. This is a discussion worth having, IMHO.
> >
> > XOX,
> > Jan
> >
> > --
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> > On May 11, 2006, at 11:06 AM, Michael Sullivan wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Bring it!
> > >
> > >
> > > On 5/11/06, Josh Leo <joshleo@...> wrote: I have a knack for
> > > starting these explosive threads I guess. First it was Veoh, now the
> > > sexism debate... I think I might tackle the whole "show vs personal"
> > > debate next month!
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On 5/11/06, Deirdre Straughan <deirdre.straughan@...> wrote: I
> > >> suspect it's going to play out both ways as "citizen video"
continues
> > >> to grow.
> > >>>
> > >>> 1. Yes, the medium will be invaded by the usual pretty people
> > >>> because all humans are "lookist" - part of that is genetic and
will
> > >>> never be entirely eradicated, part of it is culture - so there's
> > >>> some hope.
> > >>>
> > >>> 2. However, because we can self-publish, Just Plain Folks can also
> > >>> put themselves in front of the camera and some of them will have a
> > >>> hook that draws us in and we'll watch them even if they aren't
> > >>> pretty. I hope that as a result we'll all subconsciously get
used to
> > >>> the idea that you don't have to be gorgeous to be worth watching,
> > >>> and lookism will tone down in the general culture. After all, we
> > >>> already watch lots of famous people who aren't particularly
> > >>> attractive because they are instead funny or talented.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> --
> > >>> best regards,
> > >>> Deirdré Straughan
> > >>>
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> > >>> www.tvblob.com (work)
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