mig, can you try to download LIVE baseball game streams from these sites?

[johnny begood]

I installed VDH on Firefox.  

When I tried to download LIVE sports games, I gets errors, (red dot)

Can you try to download LIVE games from these sites?

It is MLB(Major League Baseball) playoffs now in USA.

There are 4 games a day, EST(Eastern Standard Time), starting around 1pm till 10pm.

You can google search MLB schedule and see the game times.

These are websites where LIVE games are broadcasted.

https://www.vipleague.st/baseball-sports-stream 

http://ht.freestreams-live1.com/mlb-stream2/

There are other sites, google "MLB live stream".

I can download videos like from youtube BUT I can NOT download LIVE broadcast streams like LIVE sports games

[mjs]

I'm not the developer but I tried on a cricket game and it gives a 403 forbidden on vipleague , this is not a problem of VDH as the manifest for

the live stream keeps giving a 403. You  should try finding other sites where it works or use a screen recording software.

[Wild Willy]

I don't follow baseball.  I had no idea the playoffs were going on, what teams were in it, who was playing who, when, nothing.  But the web is a wonderful resource:

Those times are expressed for the GMT -0400 time zone, since that's where I am.  There are only 2 games being played today, contrary to what you said.  Also they don't start at 1:00 PM, also contrary to what you said.  The Philadelphia-Atlanta game is being played in Atlanta, which is also in the GMT -0400 time zone.  But the San Diego-Los Angeles game is being played in Los Angeles, which is in the GMT -0700 time zone, which means that game will start at 5:37 PM Los Angeles time.  All of which is to say that I can't check this out for a few hours yet.

So if I don't give a rip about baseball, why am I even interested in this?  It turns out your sites also offer NHL livestreams & I sure am interested in that.  Specifically the games of le Club de Hockey Canadien de Montréal.  So if I find I can record the baseball, I will be very happy about that.  And I will thank you for those links.  I already have a site that carries the hockey livestreams but it's larded down with ads.  So if your sites are a bit friendlier, I'll start using them instead for my Habs games.  I have to note that the site I've been using for hockey is not amenable to recording, at least, not reliably.  Sometimes I can get things with VDH, sometimes I can't.  This is not surprising.  Web sites have an array of techniques at their disposal for thwarting downloaders.  Besides DRM, there's also password protection on manifests & simply not supporting the commands that downloaders need to execute.  So even though I am hopeful I'll be able to record the baseball, I'm not particularly optimistic.

[Wild Willy]

Nope. Your first site is larded down with ads. It's even worse than the site I already
use for hockey. I didn't think that was possible but apparently I was wrong. But once I
got to the point of perhaps actually getting the livestream to open, it demanded that I
sign up for something. Not happening. At least my hockey site doesn't make me create a
user ID. So if you can't get VDH to download from here, too bad. It's one of the many
sites on which VDH does not work. You'll have to leave it at that.

I'm not sufficiently motivated to try your second site.

Just for completeness, I've been getting my hockey livestreams from here:

http://onhockey.tv/

[johnny begood]

games and starting times change, so don;t lock me into those times I gave.  It was approximate. You wrote an entire a PARAGRAPH but wrong timing, so AM I IN A DOG HOUSE NOW? OMG, LOL.

BUT you are smart enough to find the times for certain dates.

[johnny begood]

FYI, those sites are FREE, all "borrowed" signals(haha, wink wink).

I use ad blockers, Firefox.  99.99% ad free, SMOOTH streaming.  Maybe ad filters within Firefox?

  BUT you seem SMART person, try them?

I think it depends where you are accessing them in the world.

we are in middle of Pacific, we watch Super Bowl, NFL, NBA, UFC, soccer, rugby, etc.. Even get ESPN, ESPN2, NBC gold channels, etc..

There are other sites besides vipleague, 

[johnny begood]

It's safe to say VDH can NOT record LIVE broadcast streams(now I know), ONLY pre recorded videos. and there are many other programs besides VDH that can record pre recorded videos,  VDH is nothing special,

Good luck to all,  we are moving on.....

[Wild Willy]

I have used VDH to record livestreams from NBC Sports, both Golf Channel & the main NBC
network. I recorded the NFL game livestream with VDH this past Sunday night. I am also
able to use VDH to record my local CBS affiliate, although I prefer to use ffmpeg on that
one. Still VDH can do it & I've posted about it here. My local ABC affiliate as well as
ESPN, which are both owned by Disney, use DRM so downloading is out of the question for
them. VDH is able to record livestreams from Medici TV. Those are available a little
less often so you can't verify that on any old day. So VDH is perfectly capable of
recording livestreams. It's just not capable of recording every livestream there is out
there. There are measures web sites take to thwart downloaders. In addition to the
obvious one of DRM, they can also protect their content with passwords that only their
embedded video players know. They can also simply not support the API a downloader needs
to request a livestream. So it's not at all safe to say VDH can't record broadcast
livestreams. It just seems to be unable to record the particular ones you're interested
in on the sites you are looking at. I have to say that for my hockey livestreams, many
don't record with VDH but there is the occasional one that does. It just depends on the
way the livestream is presented. You are certainly free to use whatever tool suits your
preference. Like I mentioned above, sometimes I prefer to use ffmpeg directly instead of
VDH. It's a decision I make for each case.

[johnny begood]

humm?? so you have record LIVE streams...Can you share links?

you said " I have used VDH to record livestreams from NBC Sports, both Golf Channel & the main NBC

network. I recorded the NFL game livestream with VDH this past Sunday night. I am also
able to use VDH to record my local CBS affiliate"

What were the website links that you used to record LIVE?

Also we tried to use ffmpeg to record LIVE, but not successful yet.

So can you share what ffmpeg command lines did you use to record LIVE streams?

[johnny begood]

FYI...

Recording LIVE sports stream is NICE BUT there are other ways to enjoy LIVE sports.

There are sites where they upload REPLY of games few hours after games are finished.  NFL. NBA, MLB, NHL, etc..(BUT NOT GOLF replays yet).

Also torrents sites, download in HD then watch later.

Trick is NOT to listen and watch for final score for few hours after games are finished,  Then when watching REPLY sites, for the audience is like LIVE experience (since you don;t know what happened during the game).  Also skipping commercials is nice feature. LOL

So instead is getting caught up on technical details of VDH trying to record LIVE, look for OTHER ways to accomplish one's final goal.

Thinking like this makes programs like VDH pretty useless.

[johnny begood]

FYI, IMHO...just a request.

You wrote a LENGTHY ONE paragraph sharing several ideas.

I am sure you are proficient and confident in your presentation of ideas, BUT it would help the reader a LOT, IF you could breakup ONE large paragraph into few smaller paragraphs focusing on ONE idea at a time.

Maybe consider most of us are NOT as SMART as you, and proficient trying to READ every words in your ONE LONG paragraph.

For most of us English is second, third, fourth, etc...language.

BUT HEY? who knows? Maybe most people here are SMART like you and have NO problem reading your paragraph. so maybe it's US who need to step up to the game and READ your WONDERFUL ONE LONG paragraph.  LOL

On Thursday, October 13, 2022 at 7:01:56 PM UTC+8 Wild Willy wrote:

[Wild Willy]

https://www.nbcsports.com/live

That's the page where NBC Sports lists their livestreams.  The page is constantly changing depending on what events may be occurring at any given moment.  They also list what they have on their schedule for the next few days.  The Golf Channel livestreams are listed there since Golf Channel is part of NBC.  There is nothing live going on at the moment I am writing this.  But later today there will be golf from several different tours, car racing, soccer, rugby, & college football.  Looking further down the page I see sports talk shows, an NFL game, motorcycle racing, & figure skating.  During the Olympics, they had countless links to various events.  They also carry Peacock programming, but that's behind its own paywall so that's essentially a separate category.  The trick is, they require you to authorize access through your cable TV provider.  Since I am in the US & I subscribe to a cable system, I can get into any of the streams offered there.  Then I can record them with VDH & make sure not to accidentally learn the outcome of the game before I play back my MP4 recorded by VDH.  If you live elsewhere, you probably can't get access to this content.

https://medici.tv

That is a site that is not restricted.  You can live anywhere & get in there.  You do need to register a user ID & password with them, but that is totally free.  They do have a lot of their content behind a paywall, but most (not all) of their livestreams are available to anybody who has one of their free accounts.  VDH works quite well on that site.

As for my local network TV affiliates, they are here:

https://abc.com/watch-live/abc
https://www.cbs.com/live-tv/stream/
https://www.nbc.com/live?brand=nbc

Those are unlikely to be of any use to anybody who does not have a cable TV subscription in the US.  I don't know if a subscription to any cable system in the US would work or if you have to actually be here.  Since I'm here, I'm unable to experiment with that.  Maybe somebody in another city reading this can try it & report how it goes.

On the subject of ffmpeg, I'm not going to spoonfeed you.  You will have to do some learning on your own.  I have posted a tutorial on ffmpeg in this forum.  If you are sufficiently motivated, you will read it.  I will, however, spoonfeed you how to find that tutorial.  Click this:

https://groups.google.com/g/video-downloadhelper-q-and-a/c/BzPLK2YyL-s

Within that page, do a text search with "cannot download" as your search key.  That will reposition the page on a reference that contains a link.  Click that link.  Read what you find.  If you are sufficiently patient & motivated, that tutorial will teach you how to use ffmpeg in cases that VDH fails to do the download.  Not all cases.  There are things that simply can't be downloaded.  But there are many cases in which VDH fails but ffmpeg succeeds.  It's up to you whether you wish to make the effort to learn what is there.

VDH has its uses.  You just need to be sufficiently insightful to recognize its usefulness.  You are, of course, free to move on to other tools & other topics.