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Hello, how would I download videos from muse.ai? Right now, the video is not shown as a possible download.
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Aug 26, 2023, 7:26:44 AM8/26/23
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I went to your page & indeed the VDH menu was empty. But I didn't see a video on the
page either. So of course I just shrugged my shoulders & gave up.
No no no. That's what about 99% of the people participating in this forum would have
done. But you have to be resourceful. I . . . guess what? . . . I scrolled the page
down. What a concept! About a third of the way down the page I discovered a video
labelled “To Scale: The Solar System.” But the VDH menu was still empty. So what do you
do? Do you actually read what it says on the VDH menu? Or do you once again shrug your
shoulders & close the page, saying VDH doesn't support this web site?
No. It says on the VDH menu to “Click play on video to help detect files...” Why do you
suppose it says that on the VDH menu when it hasn't detected anything on the page? Is it
just there as decoration? Is it a trap to lure you into some nefarious scam?
I clicked play on the video. Repeat after me. What a concept! Even more astonishing.
That made 4 variants appear on the VDH menu. Inspecting them, I saw that 3 of them were
of sizes measured in K & one was measured in M. Now which one do you think might be a
video? Are videos generally small? Come on now, think.
So I told VDH to download the one that was some number of M. VDH was quite happy to
download it. VLC was quite happy to play it. But there was no sound.
At this point, 99% of the participants in this forum would come in here & post a
complaint that VDH was getting a video without audio. They would all be lazy &
inattentive. This issue has been discussed to death in here.
At this point, someone who has been paying attention to activity in this forum, or
someone who actually managed to realize that this forum has a search facility, would have
known or found the advice directing you to do what I did next.
I downloaded one of the 3 other remaining variants on the VDH menu. It turned out to be
another video without audio.
Did I give up? You should be recognizing a pattern here. In case you missed it, the
pattern is that you keep guessing. Keep guessing. Guessing is your most powerful tool.
There were 4 variants on the VDH menu & the 2 I had downloaded were video without audio.
There were only 2 variants left. So I flipped a coin & downloaded the smallest variant.
Then I played the silent video I had downloaded first & the small variant I had just
downloaded synchronously in VLC. You don't know what that is? Have I ever mentioned
that there is a search facility in this forum?
Finally, I had a video of duration 7:06 that included audio. Pretty interesting, too.
Guess. Keep guessing. Think. Think again. Think a few times. Engage your brain. Do
what it tells you to do on the VDH menu. Actually read what appears in front of you.
Don't be so quick to give up & come rushing in here like a helpless baby. Do for
yourself.
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Aug 26, 2023, 2:12:30 PM8/26/23
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Let me pretend I did not see your patronizing and condescending tone. I guess it gives you some kind of good feeling to act like you do.
Here's the actual video I want: https://muse.ai/v/EPRpDBo. The interesting thing is that the video that is downloaded indeed has no sound, but that's not a problem, like you mention. The real problem is that the downloaded video is only 178x100 pixels, and when playing it using VLC it appears to play in some kind of "slow motion", for lack of a better word.
Now, can you solve this puzzle? Does following the menu indeed tell us I'm a helpless baby, Mr. KnowItAll?
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That page acted a bit weird. When it first started to render, there was a video player.
But when it finished rendering, there was no video player & it said the channel is empty.
That would surprise me if it were true. Maybe it's because I don't have a logon ID
there. Despite all of that, VDH did offer me one variant to download, which did come in
OK in a few seconds. It had no audio & it's kind of like claymation , stop action, not a
proper video. Plus it's a putrid resolution, 178x100. Normally, if a player is
available on the web page, it has a button for settings. Clicking that usually gives you
the option of changing resolutions. That pretty much always causes new variants to
appear on the VDH menu. Maybe the site will give you a video player. I'm assuming you
have a logon there. Like I say, it didn't give me one.
I tried opening the Network Monitor & reloading the page but no media objects appeared.
No MP4s, no m3u8 files, no mpd files, nothing. The one JSON that did appear was
essentially empty. This one is an enigma.
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Aug 27, 2023, 12:47:42 AM8/27/23
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I can't give a good explanation why I visited this video again. But I did. The page is
now completely different from what I got earlier. The video player actually stayed
visible on the page after it finished rendering. It gave me 4 variants & I downloaded
both the largest & smallest ones as reported by VDH. I then played them synchronously in
VLC. It was still the putrid resolution but at least now it had an audio track. The
thing is about 1 hour 50 minutes long so I wasn't about to sit through it.
Unfortunately, skipping in VLC wasn't working properly. I managed to skip through a bit
less than half an hour when the skipping completely stopped functioning. I've seen this
before & mentioned it elsewhere in this forum. The solution is to merge the 2 tracks
into a single MP4. I did that using a .bat script I posted here within a thread whose
title is "How to download from YouTube." That is a command script that will work on
Windows. You haven't said what system you're running so if it's Windows, great.
Otherwise, you'll have to figure out a way to transform that script for your platform. I
don't know Linux or Mac so I would be no help whatsoever in those environments. In any
case, the merged MP4 played fine in VLC & I had no trouble skipping all the way to the
end. But it's still that weird claymation, stop action junk. The Windows Properties for
the file claimed it had a frame rate of 2fps. That is utterly ridiculous but the
claymation effect might actually be evidence to support a 2fps frame rate.
The tool in the player on the web page for changing resolution didn't work for me. When
I clicked it, it popped up a small menu, one of whose entries appeared to be for changing
resolution. But when I clicked that, nothing further opened.
So I dropped back 10 & punted. I tried to see whether I could get this thing with
ffmpeg. I have a tutorial in this forum on ffmpeg. It's under the title "VDH can't
download it? Maybe ffmpeg can." I used the approach described in that tutorial to
discover that there was a whole lot of information now available in the Network Monitor
that I was not seeing earlier. Under the rather unlikely type of
application/octet-stream, there was a file named dash.mpd. This is exactly what you need
to download this. It's a DASH master manifest. I ran it through ffprobe & I've attached
those results here as file ffprobe.txt. I used that information to download something
that had a much better resolution (and of course included audio). I've attached the log
file from that here as file Jones Plantation (via DASH manifest) mp4 Log.txt. You can
see in that log what commands I used to download this. You can also see that even though
the site was giving me a pretty decent download speed, it still took nearly half an hour
to complete. At 1:50, I suppose that's pretty good. It played fine in VLC, no issues,
looked like a normal video, crisp visuals, acceptable sound, no problems skipping around
in it since once again, I was not about to sit & watch this all the way through. The
only slightly odd thing was that there were black horizontal borders above & below the
image. But then, the resolution is, as you can see in the ffmpeg log, 4096x1716. Full
4K would be 4096x2160. So you have to say that the black borders are intentional.
2160-1716=444 so I guess each black border was 222 pixels high, and of course 4096 pixels
wide.
I scoured the Network Monitor for any evidence of subtitles & saw none. Then I
remembered the tool menu within the video player had something about that. So I started
playback again (I had paused it earlier) & opened the tool menu again. This time, it
allowed me to change resolutions. I have no idea why it allowed me to do it this time
but not earlier. Maybe going into fullscreen helped. I also enabled captions. When I
resumed playback, captions were displayed. But the Network Monitor still didn't show
anything that looked like captions. Those would typically be files of type vtt or srt.
Really digging deep, I did find one json with an inscrutable name that did appear to show
the captions. But they were in the weirdest format I've ever seen. Each word of any
given subtitle appeared to be on a line by itself. I'm also rather suspicious that they
may have been machine generated. There seemed to be a lot of places where there were
question marks where there ought to have been words. My guess is these captions probably
leave a lot to be desired. But then, I haven't watched the whole movie beginning to end
so maybe they're not so bad. Assuming you're interested in this movie, maybe you could
give a more informed assessment of the captions.
Now, to the question of why VDH can't handle this thing. VDH is known to be unable to
handle DASH streams & that's what this is. But even worse, a DASH manifest is supposed
to be a file that shows up in the Network Monitor as type dash, not octet-stream. In
other words, this content appears to be in a non-standard format. So even if VDH did
handle DASH streams, I have my doubts it would handle this case because of its
non-standard nature. I am, of course, speculating since I don't work for VDH & I'm not
privy to whatever might be going on now or might be planned. I did encounter one DASH
stream that I was surprised to get with VDH. This was right after the 8.0.0.0 release of
VDH for Firefox came out. I don't encounter DASH streams too often, HLS is more likely,
so I haven't had a chance to test it against another known DASH stream. But like I say,
I would expect VDH to handle a DASH stream only if it adhered to a standard. It is my
understanding that the standard requires the DASH master manifest to be of type dash.
We've encountered a number of cases of non-standard DASH streams & VDH doesn't handle any
of them properly. Then there's the subtitles. Those don't appear to be standard,
either. But VDH has never handled captions so this is kind of an aside. However, ffmpeg
has always been able to get subtitles if they were in some sort of standard format, like
vtt or srt for example. With all these non-standard things going on, I might be tempted
to conclude this site is trying rather hard to thwart downloaders. But if they really
wanted to thwart downloaders, they would just go ahead & implement DRM & be done with it.
Instead, they make it so only shade-tree mechanics can get their content.
So it looks like your only recourse here is to learn how to use ffmpeg.
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You can also get this video from the developer tools,
the video & audio appear in the network. Open them in new tabs & save video/audio as.
On the video player itself click quality then use the mouse wheel to scroll up or down for your resolution.
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Nice one! I checked page source and noticed the url after "embed_domains", which gave me the 42GB data file. Downloading the 1080p version using your method was a lot quicker, thanks!
Op zondag 27 augustus 2023 om 07:32:23 UTC+2 schreef mjs: