Re: Rokfin IS NOT YouTube!!!!!

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John Moore

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Jul 2, 2022, 5:20:44 PM7/2/22
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There should be a way to alert buyers and users of this extension that Chrome is the worst option, have purchased this extension firstly for chrome then again for Firefox ... Was happy to support the development as at this time it's the best option ... Firefox has been the best option between the two and I am able to download most things, sometimes Realplayer works where this does not and other extensions on rare occasions work, there's a heap of ways to stop downloading of streaming video if a developer wants to implement them and many do, so nothing is perfect and those posting here need to know that ... considering that chrome and youtube are both owned by the same company ... you' expect this ... wouldn't you? as extensions need to be approved by the browsers developers!

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I was shocked and disgusted when I attempted to download my weekly show from a Rokfin channel using Chrome and an alert popped up stating that downloading YouTube videos is not allowed on the Chrome Extension. Is this glaring mistake getting fixed??? Rokfin will not load using Firefox 56 so I can't use VDH there.

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John Moore

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Jul 2, 2022, 5:27:33 PM7/2/22
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What is Firefox 56? the latest release is 102

The most recent Rofkin video I found was ?

Eddie Bravo Launches "Look Into It" On Rokfin After 7-Year Hiatus From Content Creation

? and it downloaded in firefox for me

John Moore

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Jul 2, 2022, 5:30:22 PM7/2/22
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It failed in VDH but was successful in Realplayer

John Moore

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Jul 2, 2022, 5:32:44 PM7/2/22
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A link to your failed video would help?

Jaymo

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Jul 2, 2022, 6:04:32 PM7/2/22
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You may want to specify what you are on about, and explanation and link, you are an angry SOB and don't deserve help!
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Wild Willy

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Jul 2, 2022, 6:29:44 PM7/2/22
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Yes, John. Quite.

Firefox 56 was, if I'm not mistaken, the last version that did not use the Quantum
architecture. Many of us remember the upheaval the Quantum architecture caused. Mozilla
unilaterally yanked the rug out from under nearly every plug-in (as they used to be
called) & forced them to be rewritten. I delayed my own upgrade of Firefox for several
months while Michel scurried around getting VDH 7 to work in an adequate number of
situations. Quantum is the reason we now have a CoApp. The CoApp is new with VDH 7,
never having existed in prior versions. If you're on such an old release of Firefox, you
must be using VDH 6. There is no possibility you're going to get any support for that.
If you have somehow managed to install VDH 7.anything (I'm running 7.6.3a1 beta), then
you're still in an unsupported environment. Your complaints have fallen on deaf ears.

Nevertheless, Rokfin is a site unknown to me. So I went there & scrounged around. What
follows here is what you should have posted. It's called a proper problem report.

I'm on Windows 7 64-bit, Firefox 102 64-bit, licensed VDH 7.6.3a1 beta, CoApp 1.6.3. I
found this page:

https://rokfin.com/post/91405/Kyven-Gadson-Finishing-Touches-Off-Lat-Drop

It was something short (barely a minute long) & it didn't have a Premium flag on it.
When I went to the page, the video automatically started playing. I guess the site does
that. Annoying. I wasn't expecting that. If I had known that, I would have gone into
about:config & changed media.autoplay.blocking_policy from 1 to 2 before visiting the
site. I opened the VDH menu. It offered me 1 HLS variant. YouTube doesn't deal in HLS
content. I downloaded it. I got a 4.86M MP4 of duration 0:1:16, resolution 472x272. It
played perfectly fine in VLC.

You will want to bookmark this link:

https://groups.google.com/g/video-downloadhelper-q-and-a/c/BzPLK2YyL-s

There are many useful references in there, one of them describing how to make a proper
problem report. But everything is predicated on your getting on the current versions of
the software. If you refuse to get the current Firefox & the current VDH/CoApp, then
don't bother filing a problem report. In any case, my test shows there's absolutely
nothing wrong with VDH. It handles this site just fine, at least for free content.
Maybe the paid content is a problem. If anybody on the current software can post a
proper problem report about the paid content, we can discuss that. But for the time
being, this thread appears to be a dead end until you get on the latest versions of the
software.

Wild Willy

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Jul 2, 2022, 6:39:34 PM7/2/22
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Take your shock & disgust to a place where people welcome that sort of thing. It's most
definitively not welcome here.
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Wild Willy

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Jul 2, 2022, 9:16:02 PM7/2/22
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I see there have been some messages deleted from this thread. This appears to be
something the Google automatic bots are doing. The VDH folks aren't doing it. But I
have 2 thoughts on this.

Elsewhere in this Forum, this problem has occurred & I offered the advice to E-mail your
posts to the group. That seemed to do the trick. I explain how to do that. Click here:

https://groups.google.com/g/video-downloadhelper-q-and-a/c/BzPLK2YyL-s

Then do a string search for "e-mail your posts" in there. That will give you a link to
click, & that will explain in detail how to E-mail posts to a thread. This post was
E-mailed to this thread. Since our original poster apparently lost his appetite for
abuse, he deleted his original post. That changed the name of the thread & put a Re: in
front of the thread title. So I wrote this E-mail with this Subject header:

Re: Re: Rokfin IS NOT YouTube!!!!!

While you are in the Table of Contents thread finding the instructions for how to E-mail
posts to a thread, look at the link right below that one. I describe it as something you
should be doing as a habit. Click that link as well & read that. I have a suspicion
about why posts are getting censored. I believe that when the ratio of useful text to
stealth quoted text gets low enough, the Google bots think it's spam & just won't allow
your post to go through. So you need to eliminate the stealth quote bloat, as I describe
in this second thread. I may be wrong that this is the cause of the inappropriate
censorship. Nevertheless, you should be deleting the stealth quotes on general
principles, as I advise in this second thread.
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