looking to find an old Unicolor 8 x 10 drum for a rotary base....

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allan edgar

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Feb 19, 2014, 11:43:37 AM2/19/14
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Mine is seriously leaking , and its extra gasket  leaks even more,
 They don't make these anymore  and  its  a little hard to find ..
If you hear, see, or even a rumour of one , please message me -
Thanks !
Allan

Jim Salt

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Feb 19, 2014, 11:52:25 AM2/19/14
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Allan:
    I've been looking for these for years, and so if you find more than one, let me know.
Jim

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allan edgar

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Feb 19, 2014, 1:43:30 PM2/19/14
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Hi Jim ,
here's a link to a whole set coming up on Ebay in the next few hours -
I don't have the cash or credit card  to get/bid on these.
If the larger ones interest you more, I'd  be happy to trade a larger one I have 
 for the smallest if you  succesfully  follow through with this ..
I'm thinking of giving classes for 2/3 students in 4/5 and don't have a working tank now....
 regardless, Good Luck 
Allan

Don Wilkes

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Feb 20, 2014, 4:07:59 PM2/20/14
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Hello, all;

 

The computer I use for Photoshop recently had major problems booting: while it seemed to do a POST, it did not produce anything onscreen—complete blank. After one false diagnosis, the tech had another, more thorough go at my computer, and is convinced there is something wonky with the connector for the secondary video card. When he pulls the card, it boots fine and produces video on screen from the motherboard’s video subsystem. Huh. The real solution, I suppose,  would be a whole new motherboard, but that would be such a hassle that I’m avoiding it for the nonce.

 

I’ve hauled it home and plugged everything back in, leaving it on the counter for now, but I’m wondering what difference using the onboard video will make to Photoshop. Do any of you have any experience in running P/S with what one might call a ‘generic’ video system? 

 

Is this going to be intolerably slow on half-gig files?

 

Am I going to have to do a big recalibration on my colour management system?

 

I haven’t been able to test this yet, as I started running  backup software immediately after I had it boot. Let’s just say that this experience was a not-so-gentle reminder from the gods that getting an external drive and running a backup would be a “very good idea”...

 

\donw

 

Jim Salt

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Feb 20, 2014, 4:48:08 PM2/20/14
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Don:
    You did not say WHAT computer you have. If it's a MAC then they are notorious for having video card or video section problems - in my Macbook Pro I had the video part of the board re-flowed two or three times, and it finally burned out permanently. Even so, I could get a replacement board for about 1/3rd the price of a new board. But laptop Macs are under-produced, they can't take the extra current of video work, and even my old G5 had the video card go on it - fortunately I was able to find a used one and put it in; cost $0.
If it's a laptop you can however try to get the board redone, IF that's what it is.
    As for the screen speed etc. that depends also on what went wrong in the first place. It also depends upon whether you have a desk-top with an external screen or a laptop with built-in, and are perhaps using an external screen? Any chance of finding out more about the set-up?
Jim


Walter Ash

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Feb 20, 2014, 4:59:52 PM2/20/14
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Hi Don (et al):

An onboard graphics chip should be more than adequate for editing photos in photoshop. If you calibrated your screens using the drivers for your old card you might have to recalibrate for the onboard one, but I think the monitor is the bigger determinant when it comes to calibration.  I'm just thinking that your settings may have to be reconfigured since they may have been associated with the old card / driver.

However, there are some features of photoshop that make use of the GPU (graphics processing unit) on your video card, and these may benefit from a higher end card.  Modern high end cards have power for high quality 3D graphics (most commonly video games) and I don't think photoshop comes even close to needing what games need (not even for those features do make use of GPU acceleration)... but for your reference here's a list of features that photoshop does use the GPU for (CS6 specific, but lists some older features that use it too):

http://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/kb/photoshop-cs6-gpu-faq.html

If your onboard card is relatively recent (say the last 3 or 4 years) I don't think you're going to notice a huge difference between using the onboard video and going with a stand-alone GPU.

I guess since you've got it working as-is you can try out your normal workflow and if things seem a lot slower than normal you might add a card, but I would be very surprised if you found you needed this for most photo editing.

-Walter

Don Wilkes

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Feb 20, 2014, 5:35:34 PM2/20/14
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Jim: it’s a desktop PC system, with the three drives (system/pgms, data, cache), with a 19” LG monitor. Sorry I didn’t make that clear; I’ve always lived in a PC world, so Macs generally aren’t top-of-mind.

 

>An onboard graphics chip should be more than adequate for editing photos in photoshop.

Whew—thanks, Walter; that’s great news for me.

>  I'm just thinking that your settings may have to be reconfigured since they may have been associated with the old card / driver.

Well, that wouldn’t be all that huge a chore, I suppose, and it’s probably time for a monitor recalibration anyways. The one thing that struck terror in my heart is when it didn’t boot and there was no backup—ohmigawd—the thought of starting completely from scratch was more than a bit daunting :}

>If your onboard card is relatively recent (say the last 3 or 4 years)

And there’s the rub...it dates from 2006, which is Neolithic in computing time.  I guess I shall just have to wait until the backup finally completes, and give P/S a go, and see what happens.  I’m a pretty conservative user, not needing 3-D rendering and such, so I have great hopes I’ll be okay, apart from the video-ram .

> if things seem a lot slower than normal you might add a card,

I would have gotten a new card, but it’s the connector that we think is the problem: the shop tried a different card, and it still refused to send a signal to the monitor on bootup.  Urgh.  So, the only way to truly resolve it would be a new motherboard. And that creates complications of its own, as P/S will likely scream that it’s being pirated.  That is resolvable too, I’m sure, but it seems to pile hassle upon hassle <g>.

Anyhoo, we’ll see what happens tomorrow, I guess.  The backup will take a long time, and I’ve got choir tonight. 

À demain.

 

Jim Salt

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Feb 20, 2014, 6:46:11 PM2/20/14
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Don:
    What version of PS? They have put somewhat revised versions of the early PS (CS2 etc.) on-line so you can download and install them without all the screaming. I did this recently on my replacement MAC and the thing is running very well.
Good luck

Don Wilkes

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Feb 21, 2014, 2:34:32 PM2/21/14
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>What version of PS? They have put somewhat revised versions of the early PS (CS2 etc.) on-line so you can download and install them without all the screaming.

 

I’m running version CS6.  Are you saying that the more modern versions, such as 6, do not whine heavily about a new motherboard?

 

By the way, the backup software (or my computer) completely seized during the backup. I had to physically shut down the power.  Today, I cleaned up the main drive, turned off all power-saving options, and have started Windows’ own backup program. It reports that this will run for about 7 hours.  Ugh.

 

 

\d

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Lillian Sly

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Feb 21, 2014, 2:58:14 PM2/21/14
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Haven't read through all this. Makes my head hurt and my anxiety levels shoot up even skimming it. This is why I'll happily keep my darkroom and breathe fix fumes for the rest of my life. 

Lillian

Jim Salt

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Feb 21, 2014, 3:59:29 PM2/21/14
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Don, I can't say about the more modern("") versions; I have PS CS2 and when my Macbook crashed for the last time, I had of course a problem with reinstalling the PS. Partly this was because I have some self-made software which requires OS 10.5 or earlier to run, and so I had to get a replacement computer which would run 10.5. This I did, and then I discovered that Adobe has set up a site with some of the earliest PS editions in a new version which does not require verification. I reinstalled the CS2 and it is working fine. Originally if I reinstalled CS2 I had to phone them to explain that the MAC I had it on had crashed and that I had a newer - but still old - Mac to replace it; thehn they would give me a serial number or a reactivation # etc. etc.
This probably does not apply to you and the PC, I don't know. But it is encouraging to find that Abode is aware of such problems as reinstallation of old versions after a crash.
Good luck with CS6


Jim Salt

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Feb 21, 2014, 4:00:51 PM2/21/14
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Fooo! Another purist. (Do you note the hint of envy in my voice?) But darkrooms have their drawbacks, as do computers and scanners.

Walter Ash

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Feb 22, 2014, 1:23:20 AM2/22/14
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Allan, I have a couple of them; one is an older style unicolor and the other is a different brand, but both have a similar design and can take 8x10 or 4x5 and you can use them with sheet film or paper.

You can choose which one you prefer and all I would ask in return would be a print or two of yours to add to my collection ;)

-Walter

Walter Ash

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Feb 22, 2014, 1:24:01 AM2/22/14
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Caveat: I have not used either of them in awhile so I cannot guarantee seals are 100%.

Jim Salt

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Feb 22, 2014, 1:38:42 AM2/22/14
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Walter:
    If you're trying to get rid of them I'll take one!
Jim

Walter Ash

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Feb 22, 2014, 1:46:10 AM2/22/14
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Well, I have two surplus ones (I want to keep my third one for myself).  Same deal if you want one; one or two of your prints, your choice, unmounted is fine. 

-Walter


Jim Salt

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Feb 22, 2014, 1:48:52 AM2/22/14
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What size prints?

Walter Ash

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Feb 22, 2014, 1:54:16 AM2/22/14
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Not important...



allan edgar

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Feb 22, 2014, 10:38:21 AM2/22/14
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That sounds great Walter. A super kind gesture on your part.
Thanks again, you  really made my day.
 Allan 


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