Karina Wright reneging on deal
HarpoonX
victoria, saanich, esquimalt etc
so do not speak of that which you do not understand
In article <Daas2.6113$q57....@news.rdc1.bc.wave.home.com>,
mi...@NOSPAMseaprompt.com says...
>
>I can tell you know little or nothing about doing business in BC. You only
>require a business license if your are 1.) in a part of town that requires
>one (the CRD does not!!) 2.) You require a business license ONLY if you are
>buying and selling as a BUSINESS and NOT as an individual - albeit, this is
>a fine line and MOST communities will deem you guilty BEFORE innocent. YOU
>DO NOT REQUIRE A PST NUMBER if you are not charging PST!! I think 'tis YOU
>that should call for verification before shooting off your fingers.
>
>
>HarpoonX wrote in message
><6E1s2.5117$q57....@news.rdc1.bc.wave.home.com>...
>>if you are buying AND selling
>>you REQUIRE a business license and tax # otherwise you are acting
>illegally.
>>your motives are irrelevant
>>phone revenue canada or city hall for clarification
>>simply stating you are not a commercial enterprise... is ALSO irrelevant.
>>you are doing BUSINESS......of course you could also register as a
>non-profit
>>organization....have you done THAT?
>>
>>HarpoonX
>>
>>In article <36B09CE4...@home.com>, "pctrader says...
>>>
>>>Thankyou to all of you who have contribute to my original posting, but
>>>lets give it a rest guys. I merely wanted people to make note of someone
>>>who may not be the best in terms of deals. I suspect she was broke and
>>>needed the money. While I was pissed off, it needn't go on forever.
>>>
>>>RE: HARPOONx comments on "Integrity and Commercial ventures":
>>>
>>>Who says I'm a commercial venture anyway. Just because my email is
>>>PCTRADER doesnt mean I'm a commercial venture. Just for the record, I am
>>>a student trying to put some decent pcs together for a home network so I
>>>can study for my Microslop and Novell exames. I am trading, bartering,
>>>swaping, buy and selling etc mainly to make enough to upgrade my
>>>existing systems to full blown servers. So, I would check out the facts
>>>before you ass-ume your personal "beliefs" are actual reality. Have you
>>>ever heard of just asking the poster politely if they are indeed a
>>>commerical venture instead of just assuming?
>>>
>>>And yes, I do have some integrity, if anyone buys from me, if I have
>>>goofed and given them something that is not working properly etc, I
>>>promply refund or replace it. I also stick to the deals I make even if
>>>sometimes it ends up hurting my pocket book because I truly believe that
>>>your reputation is still the most important asset you have.
>>>
>>>And, HarpoonX, you started you message with "who CARES?" Well evidently
>>>you do since you took the time to post yet another message to the
>>>newsgroup. You will notice I only posted the orignal and thats all
>>>(except of course for this one your now reading). And just what is wrong
>>>with wanting to make a buck? Do you work for free?
>>>
>>>Pls remove the arrows and nospam from the above address.
>>>to reply.
>>>
>>>
>>>HarpoonX wrote:
>>>>
>>>> who CARES?
>>>> if you truly had integrity you wouldnt even be posting your commercial
>>messages
>>>> here (and WHINING when you didnt get what you want) since commercial
>>postings
>>>> are contrary to vic.buysell 'rules'
>>>> but everyone is just out for a buck anyways
>>>> i'm TRULY sorry you didnt get to turn a profit THIS time
>>>> not...
>>>>
>>>> HarpoonX
>>>>
>>>> In article <36B016A3...@home.com>, "pctrader says...
>>>> >
>>>> >Yes her original email did say obo etc. However I was the best obo and
>>>> >she confirmed the deal. After we made firm arrangements she reneged. If
>>>> >she wanted to hold out for more $ she shouldnt have made an agreement
>>>> >with me at all and told me then I wouldn't have gone through the
>hassle.
>>>> >If you have any integrity at all, once you commit to a sale its a done
>>>> >deal regardless if you get offered a higher price. Maybe I'm
>>>> >unrealistic, but I still believe in integrity in business dealings.
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> i clipped the rest cuz its just getting longer and longer and more and
>more
>>>> boring
>>>
>>>--
>>>Pls remove the arrows and nospam from the above address.
>>>to reply.
>>>
>>>Always looking for hardware bargains,esp.used
>>>harddrives, PCI video, Pentium/equiv.CPUs
>>>Please respond by private email only. Thx
>>
>
>
HarpoonX
called the BBB and the taxation licensing branch
as well as the business license office at city hall
and THAT is what they told me
pctrader
getting very old. By the way is the "X" in your name an invitation to
fill in the blank...hmmm I have a few choise words I could add...
HarpoonX
on 1 level further yourself
but since you're asking me if i ever go to bed at 4 something in the
morning...........
as i stated to someoneidontrmemberwho......mild insomnia....no BS either
could be the anti-depressants....or the gulf war flashbacks.....too many
floating cafeteria horror stories i could tell you....ran outta powdered eggs
one day...almost a mutiny.....
anyways......boredom is this cities middle name...unless you like
drinking.....or viewing over-priced movies with undertalented actors in
substandard scripts.....or theres always the waterfront..for the 800th
time...or how bout the parliament buildings..they get greener every year dont
they?
and no.....X is not a fill in the blank......Harpoon just looks so passe'
...needs a big fat X on the end....anyways its my irc nick.
In article <36B1A3A4...@home.com>, "pctrader says...
MJ
any business. They are an advocate to assist the client and vendor reach an
agreement on a complaint or dispute (further solidifies what I said by your
lack of business knowledge). If you called Victoria City Hall, that might
be fine, but what about Metchosin or the Highlands? The Highlands belong to
the CRD and do not require a license as the CRD is not in the business of
issuing business licenses (just attempting to enforce bogus bylaws e.g.
smoking). As it has been said before, either get the facts or get a life!!
HarpoonX wrote in message ...
Hagbard
wrote:
>I can tell you know little or nothing about doing business in BC. You only
>require a business license if your are 1.) in a part of town that requires
>one (the CRD does not!!) 2.) You require a business license ONLY if you are
>buying and selling as a BUSINESS and NOT as an individual - albeit, this is
>a fine line and MOST communities will deem you guilty BEFORE innocent. YOU
>DO NOT REQUIRE A PST NUMBER if you are not charging PST!! I think 'tis YOU
>that should call for verification before shooting off your fingers.
Technically, anything you sell you're supposed to charge PST for and
send that money into the tax office.
pctrader
about Karina business tactics and possibly teach her a lesson. However
it seems that I'm the one who has learned the lesson here! Never bother
to post anything like this you'll just start a a never ending bunch of
messages that clog up the ng. and that most people dont want to hear
anyways. Give it a rest guys..will you never let it die? Take it to
alt.flame or to an IRC so you can discuss it adnausiam! At the very
least could you change your subject field, because the current
discussion has nothing to do with Karina Wright.
HarpoonX
i called those places for information
nothing more
In article <dHks2.213$Hu4...@news.rdc1.bc.wave.home.com>,
mi...@NOSPAMseaprompt.com says...
HarpoonX
anyone is registered as a business in victoria
ANY incorporated town whatever...in the greater victoria area...or anywhere for
that matter...is responsible for business licenses themselves.....INCLUDING
metchosin (so sayeth CRD enquiries themselves)
further solidifies nothing......i SAID the CRD has nothing to do with the
issuance of business licenses (in victoria, saanich and esquimalt i might
add) dont try and twist my words around to your side of the 'argument'
nothing 'belongs' to the CRD.....the CRD is an extra layer of administration
which is paid for...and thereby 'belongs' to the people of the greater victoria
area.....
and said before by who? you..... your opinion doesnt count for much....you
arent even having the same 'argument' as i am
got the facts....from the CRD/government themselves..you are arguing THIER
facts...not mine
have a life....just cant sleep very well
get a clue
MJ
the correct information was released. I'm not worried about it. Others may
be, but not me!!
HarpoonX
In article <36B077AE...@home.com>, pde...@home.com says...
>
>don't you guys ever sleep?
>
>HarpoonX wrote:
>
>> i WAS speaking for myself as a matter of fact.
>> and we werent discussing ME being out for a buck.....it was simply a comment
on
>> you so-call integrity laden 'business-people' who simply cant follow the
rules
>> of a given 'forum'
>> personally i wouldnt completely trust anyone who didnt have a store...or at
the
>> very least couldnt provide a business license or a tax number, which is not
to
>> say i dont buy from people that dont, just means that i am wary about it,
and
>> try and check any equipment bought from individuals thoroughly, since they
are
>> unlikely to return your money...as any business would.
>> i try my best not to purchase from the US, which you seem SO big on simply
>> because if you have ANY problems...you are screwed, i also like to keep my
>> money within canada, if you don't, that in itself speaks for your so-called
>> integity, suggesting you have none if your ONLY goal is to SAVE a buck.
>> and EVERYONE has the right to change thier mind, verbal agreements count for
>> VERY little, supposing you had a store, and a guy comes in offering a
computer
>> to you, then he calls up the next day stating that he's sold his machine to
>> someone else.....are you really going to be SO upset you feel the need to
>> plaster their name about in newsgroups....or perhaps you prefer posters on
>> telephone poles.......
>> what i am saying is....one little business 'deal' is irrelevant.....get ON
with
>> your business....if one little deal is all you've got going and you can
spend
>> THAT much time worrying about it...then your little business will likely
FAIL.
>> i also consider it a very unprofessional attitude to sink the that same
level
>> of the 'reneger', i was NOT supporting them doing that.
>> it WOULD be nice if people would conduct themselves a little more honestly,
tho
>> NOT very realistic to expect it.
>> what is the point whining about it and going on about how bad these people
are
>> in the newgroups...it was a private sale...they are not necessarily likely
to
>> be selling another system anytime soon.....you simply make yourself look
like a
>> poor business person by sinking to THAT level.
>>
Paul
HarpoonX wrote:
> HarpoonX
> In article <36B0292C...@home.com>, progres...@home.com says...
> >
> >Speak for yourself... As far as I am concerned the newsgroups are
> >entirely about trust and integrity. Perhaps you are "only out for a
> >buck" but most (perhaps not on this ng) are not. Why would you ever deal
> >with people that can change there mind after you ship (if buying), or
> >sell to another after you have a deal (if selling). There is no other
> >forum where I would feel comfortable sending money to individuals in the
> >US for stereo equipment with almost no guarantee. Thats why this type of
> >behavior is not tolerated on the newsgroups I buy from. People want a
> >place where trust still exists and a persons word matters. Maybe that
> >extra $5 or 10 bucks is enough for you to reneg on your word but there
> >are still many people out there that hold integrity as an important
> >belief.
TRADER
contract! I asked both you and your boyfried if we had a firm deal and
both of you said yes. We had a firm deal! I went out of my way to go to
the bank and get your cash, plus I cancelled my evening plans to
accomodate your time schedule. Thanks alot! If this is the way you
conduct yourself, I will never deal with you again and am forwarding
your message to the newsgroups.
Karina Wright wrote:
>
>
> Hopefully you will get this message before you come over. We were offered
> a really good price for the computer, so we sold it. I'm sorry for any
> inconvenience this may have caused you.
> -Karina
Progressive Computers
entails.. On boards such as rec.audio.marketplace etc.. people doing
this never get dealt with again.
HarpoonX
HarpoonX
i think you've misinterpreted my message...
when i said i was speaking for myself.....i was talking about my beliefs
i would much rather pay the extra $5 or $10 to a legitimate canadian business
you seem to have trouble with simple english....
HarpoonX
In article <36B0B9CD...@home.com>, progres...@home.com says...
>
>You seem to have troubles with simple facts. This has nothing to do with
>business. You immediatley assume people with a busines header are out
>for profit etc when it isnt the case. You need to quit being so paranoid
>about people violating the newsgroup charter. I myself was speaking of
>my dealing with high end audio. I deal with people all over the world
>(mostly US) simply beacause the have the piece I am after. Price plays
>an important part up until I reach an agreement. Then it is morally and
>legally a done deal. (although legally there is no recourse) I would
>never fail to live up to my agreements with peple to save a buck. My
>word and integrity are worth far more than that to me. I understand
>there are people, you seem to put yourself in that category, that either
>have no integrity or feel their word is meaningless and will do whatever
>it takes to save a buck. Fact is this attitude is run off of the other
>ng's. People want a place where honesty is important and where they feel
>comforable dealing with complete stangers.
>
>
TRADER
TRADER
when you posted.
CT :)
Yo...@n.Probably.Find.Me wrote:
>
> On Thu, 28 Jan 1999 02:47:05, TRADER <"pctrader>>>>>nospam"@home.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Progressive Computers wrote:
> > >
> > > ACK that is very bad... just make people aware what dealing with them
> > > entails.. On boards such as rec.audio.marketplace etc.. people doing
> > > this never get dealt with again.
> > >
> > > TRADER wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I consider it in very poor taste at the least and a breach of verbal
> > > > contract! I asked both you and your boyfried if we had a firm deal and
> > > > both of you said yes. We had a firm deal! I went out of my way to go to
> > > > the bank and get your cash, plus I cancelled my evening plans to
> > > > accomodate your time schedule. Thanks alot! If this is the way you
> > > > conduct yourself, I will never deal with you again and am forwarding
> > > > your message to the newsgroups.
> > > >
> > > > Karina Wright wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hopefully you will get this message before you come over. We were offered
> > > > > a really good price for the computer, so we sold it. I'm sorry for any
> > > > > inconvenience this may have caused you.
> > > > > -Karina
>
> Here is the original posting from Karina, if you're creating a list.
> --
> From: yg...@victoria.tc.ca (Karina Wright)
> Organization: Victoria Telecommunity Network
> Subject: FS: P133
> Newsgroups: vic.buysell
> Date: 25 Jan 99 23:29:07 GMT
>
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>
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>
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Yo...@n.probably.find.me
Chris
A verbal agreement is a binding contract.
HarpoonX wrote in message ...
TRADER
she confirmed the deal. After we made firm arrangements she reneged. If
she wanted to hold out for more $ she shouldnt have made an agreement
with me at all and told me then I wouldn't have gone through the hassle.
If you have any integrity at all, once you commit to a sale its a done
deal regardless if you get offered a higher price. Maybe I'm
unrealistic, but I still believe in integrity in business dealings.
--
TRADER
lets give it a rest guys. I merely wanted people to make note of someone
who may not be the best in terms of deals. I suspect she was broke and
needed the money. While I was pissed off, it needn't go on forever.
RE: HARPOONx comments on "Integrity and Commercial ventures":
Who says I'm a commercial venture anyway. Just because my email is
PCTRADER doesnt mean I'm a commercial venture. Just for the record, I am
a student trying to put some decent pcs together for a home network so I
can study for my Microslop and Novell exames. I am trading, bartering,
swaping, buy and selling etc mainly to make enough to upgrade my
existing systems to full blown servers. So, I would check out the facts
before you ass-ume your personal "beliefs" are actual reality. Have you
ever heard of just asking the poster politely if they are indeed a
commerical venture instead of just assuming?
And yes, I do have some integrity, if anyone buys from me, if I have
goofed and given them something that is not working properly etc, I
promply refund or replace it. I also stick to the deals I make even if
sometimes it ends up hurting my pocket book because I truly believe that
your reputation is still the most important asset you have.
And, HarpoonX, you started you message with "who CARES?" Well evidently
you do since you took the time to post yet another message to the
newsgroup. You will notice I only posted the orignal and thats all
(except of course for this one your now reading). And just what is wrong
with wanting to make a buck? Do you work for free?
Pls remove the arrows and nospam from the above address.
to reply.
HarpoonX wrote:
>
> who CARES?
> if you truly had integrity you wouldnt even be posting your commercial messages
> here (and WHINING when you didnt get what you want) since commercial postings
> are contrary to vic.buysell 'rules'
> but everyone is just out for a buck anyways
> i'm TRULY sorry you didnt get to turn a profit THIS time
> not...
>
> HarpoonX
>
> In article <36B016A3...@home.com>, "pctrader says...
> >
> >Yes her original email did say obo etc. However I was the best obo and
> >she confirmed the deal. After we made firm arrangements she reneged. If
> >she wanted to hold out for more $ she shouldnt have made an agreement
> >with me at all and told me then I wouldn't have gone through the hassle.
> >If you have any integrity at all, once you commit to a sale its a done
> >deal regardless if you get offered a higher price. Maybe I'm
> >unrealistic, but I still believe in integrity in business dealings.
> >
>
> i clipped the rest cuz its just getting longer and longer and more and more
> boring
--
HarpoonX
HarpoonX
should the other party simply choose to say
no we never promised them anything....
In article <NZ%r2.8$W32.1...@news.bctel.net>, dire...@bigfoot.com.biteme
says...
HarpoonX
you REQUIRE a business license and tax # otherwise you are acting illegally.
your motives are irrelevant
phone revenue canada or city hall for clarification
simply stating you are not a commercial enterprise... is ALSO irrelevant.
you are doing BUSINESS......of course you could also register as a non-profit
organization....have you done THAT?
HarpoonX
In article <36B09CE4...@home.com>, "pctrader says...
>
Melody C. Griffiths
> I consider it in very poor taste at the least and a breach of verbal
> contract! I asked both you and your boyfried if we had a firm deal and
> both of you said yes. We had a firm deal! I went out of my way to go to
> the bank and get your cash, plus I cancelled my evening plans to
> accomodate your time schedule. Thanks alot! If this is the way you
> conduct yourself, I will never deal with you again and am forwarding
> your message to the newsgroups.
I would agree here. The whole system doesn't work if people do that sort
of thing... lousy.
> Karina Wright wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hopefully you will get this message before you come over. We were offered
> > a really good price for the computer, so we sold it. I'm sorry for any
> > inconvenience this may have caused you.
> > -Karina
>
> --
> Pls remove the arrows and nospam from the above address.
> to reply.
>
> Always looking for hardware bargains,esp.used
> harddrives, PCI video, Pentium/equiv.CPUs
> Please respond by private email only. Thx
>
>
/\_/\ -*- Melody Christina Griffiths -*- /\_/\
( o o ) + ua...@victoria.tc.ca + ( o o )
=(_"_)= - http://www.victoria.tc.ca/~ua770 - =(_"_)=
~ A kittykat trapped in a human's body... ~
Progressive Computers
business. You immediatley assume people with a busines header are out
for profit etc when it isnt the case. You need to quit being so paranoid
about people violating the newsgroup charter. I myself was speaking of
my dealing with high end audio. I deal with people all over the world
(mostly US) simply beacause the have the piece I am after. Price plays
an important part up until I reach an agreement. Then it is morally and
legally a done deal. (although legally there is no recourse) I would
never fail to live up to my agreements with peple to save a buck. My
word and integrity are worth far more than that to me. I understand
there are people, you seem to put yourself in that category, that either
have no integrity or feel their word is meaningless and will do whatever
it takes to save a buck. Fact is this attitude is run off of the other
ng's. People want a place where honesty is important and where they feel
comforable dealing with complete stangers.
HarpoonX wrote:
>
> i WAS speaking for myself as a matter of fact.
> and we werent discussing ME being out for a buck.....it was simply a comment on
> you so-call integrity laden 'business-people' who simply cant follow the rules
> of a given 'forum'
> personally i wouldnt completely trust anyone who didnt have a store...or at the
> very least couldnt provide a business license or a tax number, which is not to
> say i dont buy from people that dont, just means that i am wary about it, and
> try and check any equipment bought from individuals thoroughly, since they are
> unlikely to return your money...as any business would.
> i try my best not to purchase from the US, which you seem SO big on simply
> because if you have ANY problems...you are screwed, i also like to keep my
> money within canada, if you don't, that in itself speaks for your so-called
> integity, suggesting you have none if your ONLY goal is to SAVE a buck.
> and EVERYONE has the right to change thier mind, verbal agreements count for
MJ
require a business license if your are 1.) in a part of town that requires
one (the CRD does not!!) 2.) You require a business license ONLY if you are
buying and selling as a BUSINESS and NOT as an individual - albeit, this is
a fine line and MOST communities will deem you guilty BEFORE innocent. YOU
DO NOT REQUIRE A PST NUMBER if you are not charging PST!! I think 'tis YOU
that should call for verification before shooting off your fingers.
HarpoonX wrote in message
<6E1s2.5117$q57....@news.rdc1.bc.wave.home.com>...
>>Pls remove the arrows and nospam from the above address.
>>to reply.
>>
>>
>>HarpoonX wrote:
>>>
>>> who CARES?
>>> if you truly had integrity you wouldnt even be posting your commercial
>messages
>>> here (and WHINING when you didnt get what you want) since commercial
>postings
>>> are contrary to vic.buysell 'rules'
>>> but everyone is just out for a buck anyways
>>> i'm TRULY sorry you didnt get to turn a profit THIS time
>>> not...
>>>
>>> HarpoonX
>>>
>>> In article <36B016A3...@home.com>, "pctrader says...
>>> >
>>> >Yes her original email did say obo etc. However I was the best obo and
>>> >she confirmed the deal. After we made firm arrangements she reneged. If
>>> >she wanted to hold out for more $ she shouldnt have made an agreement
>>> >with me at all and told me then I wouldn't have gone through the
hassle.
>>> >If you have any integrity at all, once you commit to a sale its a done
>>> >deal regardless if you get offered a higher price. Maybe I'm
>>> >unrealistic, but I still believe in integrity in business dealings.
>>> >
>>>
>>> i clipped the rest cuz its just getting longer and longer and more and
more
>>> boring
>>
Dave Larose
Health for sure, what else?
Dave Larose
endeavours may post once a month (week)
The "rules" may have changed to once a week, I would have to refresh my
info. The endless comments on this subject are really stupid, go read
the rules and then espouse like there is no tomorrow. Do you know that
the "community" fought vigorously to stop the WWW and failed...as did
Hollywood with rentals...yada yada yada....