Dai-Rki hook breakage

[Neville Gosling]

I came across this when searching the country of manufacture -

http://rockymtnfly.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=2443

I have not experience the same problem.

Neville (Nev) Gosling

[Anthony Spezio]

I have had many many Mustad hooks break at the barb. I have a draw full of flies with broken Mustad hooks. Quit using them about 15 years ago.

Tony

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[Allan Fish]

>I have had many many Mustad hooks break at the barb.

Interesting. Maybe I'm not clamping my hooks tightly enough in the
vise, because I can't ever remember breaking a hook in the vise,
other some 28's. And nearly all of my hooks are Mustad.

Allan
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[Neville Gosling]

Before Japanese hooks hit the market, Mustad Norwegian hooks were the most common in Canada, with a few English hooks if you could find them. 

I have experienced 11% breakages with certain Mustad Norwegian hooks, but I probably had a bad batch. They also used to break if one smashed down the barb too hard.

Since that time and the introduction of competition from Japan, Mustad have been forced to improve their product.

Neville (Nev) Gosling

[Anthony Spezio]

Allan,

They were not breaking in the vise. The barbs were flattened before the flies were tyed. The hooks broke while catching fish. It was discouraging to cast for a half hour and missing fish before finding the point of the hook was gone.

When you come over for Sowbug, I will show you the draw I have the flies in with broken hooks.

Tony

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[Don Ordes]

Strong grooved jaws cinched tightly on a ill-placed brittle hook = breakage.

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[Don Ordes]

Tony,

That's what you get for catching 20lb. trout on size 14 Chili-peppers...

 

DonO

[Anthony Spezio]

Most were broken on the pond back east on B;ue Gills and bass.

Tony

[Anthony Spezio]

That is what was happening Flattening the barbs I believe fractured the point.

Tony

[Allan Fish]

Most were broken on the pond back east on B;ue Gills and bass.

Tony

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Allan,

They were not breaking in the vise. The barbs were flattened before the flies were tyed. The hooks broke while catching fish.

That probably explains it.  That was back before they improved their quality as mentioned by Neville.

Al

[Anthony Spezio]

I still have a lot of Mustad hooks maybe some day I will put them up for sale. I went to Eagle Claw hooks when I quit on the Mustads. Have been doing fine with them. Still have a load of them that I want to dispose of. I am not tying for the shops now.

Tony

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[Allan Fish]

WOW!!

Talk about a delayed reaction.  I sent that e-mail on January 3 and it finally got posted on February 10???

a.

[Michael Bliss]

You are getting old.  Even your posts take a long time to get to their destination ;>)

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[Allan Fish]

You are getting old.  Even your posts take a long time to get to their destination ;>)

Mike,

Your verb form was all wrong.  Instead of "getting old", it should have benn "got old".   :-(

If some old-timer doesn't conk you for your disparaging remarks, you'll get there too.  :-P

[Bob Hendry]

We made it home without any issues.  Got to Scott's house at 3:00 am, and I made it about 20 minutes ago.  Wayne is probably getting home right about now.

Had a great time at the Sowbug 2012.  Thanks to all!

Cheers,

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[Anthony Spezio]

Glad you all made it home safe. It was a real pleasure to haave you here.

Tony

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We made it home without any issues.  Got to Scott's house at 3:00 am, and I made it about 20 minutes ago.  Wayne is probably getting home right about now.

Had a great time at the Sowbug 2012.  Thanks to all!

Cheers,

Bob Hendry
Southern Maryland
173rd Assault Helicopter Company – Robinhood 13
 
"Lots of people committed crimes during the year who would not have done so if they had been fishing. The increase of crime is among those deprived of the regeneration that impregnates the mind and character of the fisherman."         - Herbert Hoover

[Webb, Gary]

Bob,

 

Glad you had a safe trip home.  Susan and I had no problems either.

 It was great meeting you and other VFB members.  And the other tyers too.

So much talent and creativity.  I wish I could have spent time in front of everyone of them.

 

Gary L Webb

 

 

 

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We made it home without any issues.  Got to Scott's house at 3:00 am, and I made it about 20 minutes ago.  Wayne is probably getting home right about now.

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[Anthony Spezio]

It was good to meet you and Susan. Wish you had time to stop by the house.

Tony

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Bob,

 

Glad you had a safe trip home.  Susan and I had no problems either.

 It was great meeting you and other VFB members.  And the other tyers too.

So much talent and creativity.  I wish I could have spent time in front of everyone of them.

 

Gary L Webb

 

 

 

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Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 3:25 AM
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Subject: [VFB] We made it!

 

We made it home without any issues.  Got to Scott's house at 3:00 am, and I made it about 20 minutes ago.  Wayne is probably getting home right about now.

Had a great time at the Sowbug 2012.  Thanks to all!

Cheers,

Bob Hendry
Southern Maryland
173rd Assault Helicopter Company – Robinhood 13
 
"Lots of people committed crimes during the year who would not have done so if they had been fishing. The increase of crime is among those deprived of the regeneration that impregnates the mind and character of the fisherman."         - Herbert Hoover

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