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[Mathew Oommen]

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Subject: FW: DETAILED REPORT ON THE ESM CONCLAVE HELD ON 06 JUN 2015
AND CALL FOR COORD MEETING ON 10 JUN 15 - "REPORT MY SIGNAL" EMAIL
116/2015 - LIST 6
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REPORT MY SIGNAL

08 Jun 2015
Dear Veterans,
Jai Hind.


1. Please donate generously for the MAHASANGRAM RALLY for OROP, to
be held on 14 Jun 15, at Jantar Mantar, New Delhi.
This may have to be followed by a Indefinite Relay Hunger Strike and
large number of cities, as already explained to you by Maj Gen Satbir
Singh in his last email.

2. You may send your donations either by cheque or draft or transfer on line.

3. Necessary account details required by you are as under –

A. Account Name - Indian Ex Servicemen Movement.

B. Account No - 06162000001330

C. Name of Bank - HDFC Bank Ltd.

D. Postal Address of Bank - Palam Vihar Branch, SCO 87,
Sector 22, Gurgaon–122001.

E. RTGS/NEFT Code - HDFC 0000616.

F. Postal Address for sending cheques/drafts –

• Maj Gen Satbir Singh, SM,
543, Sector 23,
Gurgaon – 122017 (Haryana), INDIA.

OR

• Wg Cdr CK Sharma,
N-15, First Floor, GK Part I,
New Delhi - 110048

OROP

IT IS NOW OR NEVER


SUPPORT THE MAHA SANGRAM RALLY WHOLE HEARTEDLY WITH
DONATIONS AND YOUR PRESENCE,
PRESENCE OF YOUR FAMILY AND FRIENDS.

DETAILED REPORT ON
EX-SERVICEMEN CONCLAVE AT CONSTITUTION HALL
NEW DLEHI. 6 JUNE 2015

IESM called for an Ex-servicemen conclave in Delhi to forge unity for
united presentation of disappointment of ex-servicemen to the
Government for delay in issuance of notification for OROP. Conclave
was attended by following 32 organizations from 12 states of India.
1. IESL
2. IESL HP
3. IESL HAR
4. IESL RAJ
5. NFDC
6. AIEWA
7. RDOA
8. VKARE
9. DIWAVE
10. WAR WOUNDED ASSOCIATION
11. WAR DECORATED ASSOCIATION
12. EXOVA
13. NEXCC
14. KISSAN MANCH WEST UP
15. KISAN MANCH PUNJAB
16. HARYANA EX SERVICES LEAGUE
17. DEFENCE OFFICERS ASSOCIATION KANPUR
18. DEFENCE HONY OFFICERS ASSOCIATION PUNJAB
19. PMME
20.PSUS
21. HESL
22.VIKAS SANGH MOHINDERGARH HARYANA
23.ESM GRIEVANCES CELL MOHALI
24.AFVAI
25.TURNING POINT AND PRESIDENT IESL PUNJAB
26.WAR WIDOWS ASSOCIATION
27.RRD GURDASPUR
28.UPVL MEERUT
29.UPESL
30.WORD SWORD FEATURES
31. DHCO CHANDIGARH
32.IESM

Prayers for departed soldiers; Audience observed two minute silence
and prayer for soldier who were martyred in Manipur and also for the
ex-servicemen who were in forefront of OROP struggle but have departed
earlier than grant of OROP.
Friend of Ex-servicemen; The meeting was graced by Sh Rajeev
Chandrashekhar MP Rajya Sabha. Sh Rajeev Chandrashekhar has been
friend of ex-servicemen and has been taking up the issue of One Rank
One Pension (OROP) with the Government. He even refused to accept
increased pay and perks of Members of Parliament till Government
approves OROP. Ex-servicemen will remain indebted to him for his
assistance and commitment to issues and grievances of ex-servicemen.
Gen Sec Gp Capt VK Gandhi welcomed audience and thanked them for their
will to contribute towards unity of ex-servicemen and for unitedly
representing grievances of ex-servicemen to the Government. He
explained to audience that OROP is 30 yr old demand and all
governments under the pressure of bureaucracy have been rejecting this
just demand of ex-servicemen. However BJP party had promised that OROP
will be approved as and when their Govt was formed at center. This is
a matter of great concern that while BJP has not gone back on its
promise of OROP but has not approved OROP and has not issued
notification. The issue had become more complicated because of Sh Modi
ji’s interview with Tribune and his address to nation on Man kee Baat
on AIR on 31 May 15. Ex-servicemen approached all authorities in
Government but could not get an assurance that Government will not
change the definition of OROP. In view of this uncertainty IESM has
announced Maha Sangram Rally on 14 June 15 at Jantar Mantar New Delhi
and relay hunger strike from 15 June 15 till issuance of notification
of OROP. He requested all organizations that this is the time to
cooperate and put up a joint front for OROP.
He suggested to all that if any organization has any reservation in
supporting the agitation planned by IESM, that organization is free to
plan their own agitation and IESM will fully support and cooperate in
their agitation.
He made it clear to all that there is misinformation campaign being
spread by some interested parties to create a divide amongst officers,
JCOs and ORs. This is unethical exercise and is neither good for
Nation nor good for Armed Forces. He explained that there are 26.5 lac
JCOs and ORs out of 28 lac ex-servicemen. OROP fight is to get OROP
for all. He announced that OROP battle will not be stopped unless OROP
is given to all ORs, JCOs and Officers. We fought all wars together
and will fight OROP battle also together. He cautioned everyone to be
careful of this misinformation campaign and be united at this testing
time.
He informed all present that ESM delegation had a meeting with RM in
the morning on 6 June. RM has proposed a plan for OROP. This plan was
not meeting the definition of OROP and has been objected by ESM
delegation. RM has asked the delegation to attend the conclave and
then again visit RM’s office to clear this problem. RM confirmed that
OROP is being discussed at highest level in Government. PM Sh Modi is
committed for OROP; even BJP party has also confirmed that this
promise will be fulfilled soon. RM however explained his inability to
give any firm date for issuance of OROP. In view of this, ESM
delegation informed him without any assurance of firm date for
approval of OROP; it will not be possible for IESM to postpone the
proposed agitation.
Gen Sec informed all that this meeting and proposed agitation is not
against Govt. He announced that -
• ESM have full faith in the leadership of Prime Minister Sh
Modi and the Government.
• ESM are confident that OROP will soon be approved by the Government.
• Proposed agitation is not against Government and PM. ESMs
have to resort to this agitation to communicate their disappointment
to Government for undue long delay in approving the OROP.
He informed all that a letter is being circulated for all to study and
concur. This letter is proposed to be sent to PM signed by all
organizations, if you all agree.
ESM Views; Following ESM expressed their views.
1. Gp Capt VK Gandhi
2. Lt Col Inderjit Singh
3. Lt Gen Balbir Singh
4. Lt Gen SK Bahri
5. Sgt VN Misra
6. Lt Gen Raj Kadyan
7. Col SS Sohi
8. Hony Capt JS Rathee
9. Hav Lok Singh
10. Sh Rajeev Chandrashekhar MP
11. Maj Gen Satbir Singh
All Speakers expressed disappointment on prolonged delay in issuance
of notification of OROP. They supported the agitation but advised
caution that this is hottest period of the year and temperatures are
soaring. Views of speakers in brief are -
• Col Inderjit Singh recounted his fight for OROP for last 30
yrs and said that he and his organization will support the agitation.
• Lt Gen Bahri advised that weather is very hostile and we must
take all precautions keeping in mind age of ex-servicemen.
• Lt Gen Balbir Singh IESL advised that we are very close to
get OROP and it is time for final push. We should be united and
convert this push into heave to get OROP. All necessary precautions
need to be taken to ensure welfare of ESM participating in the
agitation.
• Some speakers also advised that the agitation may be
postponed to a later date so that weather is better and slightly
cooler. However everyone opined that agitation is a must because of
apathy of Government towards genuine demands of ESM. Hav Lok Singh
from Bhatinda declared that if we could stand in subzero temperatures
in Siachin and 45 degree temp in Rajasthan, Delhi heat is no heat. He
requested the audience that this is not time to think and sit back.
This is time to join shoulders with IESM make this rally very
successful and effective. He said sirji TUSI SHURU KARO PUNJAB WILL
JOIN IN THOUSANDS. CHINTA NO KARO.
Sh Rajeev Chandrashekhar MP; Sh Rajeev Chandrashekhar advised ESM
that previous Governments have been making false promises to ESM. They
never believed in OROP for ESM and hence had no intention of approving
OROP. UPA had realized that Congress will not get majority in the
elections in Apr 14; hence they approved OROP in the budget presented
in Feb 14. The UPA Government only allotted Rs 500/crore for OROP as
only lip service to ESM.
He advised that he has found that BJP party and Sh Narendra Modi is
genuinely interested in welfare of Armed Forces and ESM. He was sure
that Mr Modi will keep his promise and will soon approve OROP. He said
that he had met PM, FM and RM at many occasions and they had always
been serious about their commitment to approve OROP. However he is
puzzled over this undue delay and will try to persuade RM to progress
as soon as possible.
He assured all present that he had been taking welfare issues of ESM
at appropriate levels at appropriate times and will continue doing so.
He would not hesitate to sit on agitation along with ESM if that
became necessary. He advised ESM to be patient. He also suggested
communication of once grievances is everyone’s right and if agitation
is the only course left then let it be the agitation as planned from
14 June 15 onwards. He however suggested that ESM must maintain
dignity, ensure no disturbance to civil life, ensure no problem to
administration and no damage to Government property during any
agitation.
Maj Gen Satbir Singh; Maj Gen Satbir Singh ensured all that ESM have
not forgotten their disciplined way of living and will not do anything
which will bring bad name to Indian Armed Forces. He expressed great
disappointment over the complications created by Government on a
simple issue like OROP. He said that OROP means “One Rank One Pension
(OROP) implies that uniform pension be paid to the Armed Forces
Personnel retiring in the same rank with the same length of service
irrespective of their date of retirement and any future enhancement in
the rates of pension to be automatically passed on to the past
pensioners. This implies bridging the gap between the rate of pension
of the current pensioners and the past pensioners, and also future
enhancements in the rate of pension to be automatically passed on to
the past pensioners.”

He expressed that this is a simple definition and has been approved by
two Parliaments. Any change in the definition means that attempt is
being made to dishonor the Parliament. He also requested the President
of India that the Supreme Commander had included OROP, war memorial
and Commission for ESM in his speech to both houses. Government has
not acted on any promise. He requested the Supreme Commander to ask
the Government for explanation for this delay.

He said that on behalf of all present here he assures Government that
ESM have full faith on our Prime Minister Sh Narendra Modi and is sure
that OROP will only be given by present Government. ESMs will not do
anything which will be against the Government or will bring bad name
to Indian Armed Forces. Any agitation planned by ESM will be within
the legal discipline and there will no inconvenience to citizen and
there will be no damage to Government property.

He said that ESM are puzzled that Government has taken so much time in
taking a simple decision and has confused a simple definition under
the advice of bureaucrats. He further stated that the issue of OROP is
being derailed because of opposition from bureaucrat.

He informed all present that he received call at night on 5 June 15
from COAS that IESM should rethink about the planned agitation and
postpone the agitation in view of the fact that Government is working
on frantic speed to clear OROP. COAS was politely requested that it
may not be possible for IESM to postpone the planned agitation unless
a clarification comes from PMO that OROP will be cleared by a date say
by 25 July 15 and there will be no dilution in definition. COAS
suggested that it would be better if IESM delegation met RM in the
morning on 6 June. Accordingly a delegation of IESM met RM at 0930h
on 6 June 15. IESM and some other ESM were also present during the
discussion with RM. Discussion was around the definition of OROP and
the ESM team did not agree with the interpretation of OROP by MOD. It
was decided that ESM teams will revisit RM’s office and work on the
OROP definition. RM was also requested to give a firm date for
announcement of OROP. RM said that it was not possible to indicate a
firm date as file is yet to be approved. IESM therefore requested RM
in absence of firm commitment it may not be possible for IESM to
postpone the planned agitation.

He further asked the house -
• That would they agree to postpone the agitation in view of
the fact that RM has not given a firm commitment to approval of OROP.
Audience shouted big NO.
• Would the planned rally on 14 June be firmed up as planned?
All ESM supported with voice vote and raise of hands.
• Would the planned Relay Hunger Strike be firmed up as
planned? All ESM supported with voice vote and raise of hands.
• Would the planned Relay Hunger strike in 50 towns in support
of Hunger strike at Jantar Mantar be firmed as planned? All ESM
supported with voice vote and raise of hand.
• Full house confirmed in voice vote and raise of hands that no
more time is given to Government and agitation would continue till
issuance of notification for OROP.
• A coordination committee is made of all organizations to
ensure smooth conduct of agitation pan India. All present agreed.

Gen Satbir concluded with a solemn pledge that ESM unity has been
forged today and all ESM will unitedly fight together for OROP and
other demands of ESM. He thanked all ESM organizations and all ESM who
had extended their support for the agitation on 14 June and relay
hunger strike from 15 June 15.

Takeaways from the Conclave;

• All ESM organizations are united on the issue of grant of OROP.
• They have agreed to participate in any exercise towards this
end together.
• The Maha Sangram Rally planned for 14 Jun 2015 will be held &
Relay Hunger strike will commence on 15 Jun onwards simultaneously at
50 cities, town & districts across the country.
• If The Govt announces a definite date of implementation in
the interim without any dilution to the accepted definition of OROP,
the decision to postpone the rally to 15 July maybe taken. If not the
plan holds.
• A coordination meeting of heads of organizations is being
planned to be held on 10 Jun 2015 at DSOI Dhaula Kuan to streamline
the planning & Logistics for the proposed agitation.

Subsequent to the conclave a second meeting was held between ESM
representatives and service pay cell heads and chaired by the RM with
COAS in attendance. This meeting was successful as it brought the
calculations of the award in the correct perspective and as per
approved definition of OROP. RM explained that it would not be
possible for him to fix a date line for announcement of OROP.

Involvement of COAS; ESM fully appreciates the help being rendered by
COAS in finding a solution to the problem of OROP. COAS has been fully
supporting OROP and taking up the issue at right time on appropriate
channels.

Special Thanks to Col Inderjit Singh; IESM conveys sincere thanks to
Col Inderjit singh President AIEWA. He came to bless the meeting
despite being on wheel chair. ESM salute his spirit and his
contribution in fighting battle for OROP. ESM saluted his spirit.

Media Coverage; The meeting was covered by most of media channels and
print media. Media channels were reporting it live. IESM Thanks all
media for covering the meeting.

Vote of Thanks;
• Gen Sec thanked all organizations and ex-servicemen who had
come to attend the meeting.
• IESM thanked Sh Rajeev Chandrashekhar and flags of honor for
sponsoring the hall and tea arrangements for the meeting.

Gp Capt VK Gandhi VSM, Gen Sec IESM

6 June 15

Attachments Letter to PM signed by reps of 30 ESM organizations and
ESM present in the meeting.


Letter to PM by ESM
From
Aggrieved Ex-servicemen of India
543, Sec 23, Palam Vihar
Gurgaon

To
Prime Minister of India

Sub; PLEASE LISTEN TO VIEWS OF EX-SERVICEMEN ON OROP
Dear Prime Minister Narendra Modi

1. Your voice is still echoing in our mind when you roared in
ex-servicemen rally on 15 Sep 13 in Rewari and demanded white paper on
OROP from UPA Government. You did not stop but declared that had there
been BJP Government in 2004 OROP would have been reality by now.
2. ESM pan India believed you for the reasons that they had found a
leader who had will to approve the long standing demand of OROP. ESM
all over India voted for Mr Modi (PM candidate) and BJP received
unprecedented mandate. ESM like any other Indian were elated on your
becoming the Prime Minister of India. They were now assured that OROP
will soon be announced. Their expectation further got confirmation on
your announcement among troops that OROP is destined to be approved by
you and that you care and respect the Armed Forces of India and want
to make them one of the best in the world.
3. ESM got assurance from Sh Manohar Parrikar when he told ESM
delegations that he is convinced that other para-military forces
cannot lay their claim on OROP as their retirement age is 60 yrs as
compared to Armed Forced Personnel who retire at the age of 40 yrs. He
further confirmed that he was convinced that Armed Forces personnel
are at double disadvantage. Firstly they lose pay for forty yrs and
secondly they get fewer pensions as compared to others as they retire
at the age of 35 yrs. Today if a 17 yr old boy joins Army and another
17 yr old boy joins Delhi police, both when they reach 70 yrs i.e.
2068, the constable would draw 7-7.5 crores Rupees more than the
sepoy. This has been arrived at after a detailed study. The sepoy
would retire in 2034 and the constable in 2058.The constable would
have seen three CPCs more than the constable. In-spite of this
information being available with the bureaucrats who are supposed to
look after welfare of Armed Forces Personnel, are busy devising ways
to deny OROP to Armed Forces Personnel
4. Sh Manohar Parrikar confirmed to ESM that he has finalized and
renamed pensions for military personnel as MILPEN to ensure that it is
treated as separate category and other paramilitary personnel will be
excluded from this. He worked out the pension of Military personnel
and ESM and calculated a figure of Rs 8296, crores per year in Feb
2015. This case is still under consideration of the Govt in fact the
file is stuck at Finance Ministry since Mar 2015.
5. ESM got a greater shock when you announced on 31 May 15 that
even though PM is committed to OROP but it is a very complex issue and
needs more time to solve it. In your interview to Tribune you had
indicated that your Government is elected for five yrs and Government
would find a solution. Do we take it that OROP has got entangled in
bureaucratic malaise for another 5 or 10 yrs.
6. Sir the fact is that you are being given incorrect information
by the people who are against the interest of Indian Armed Forces. We
are getting a feeling that there are lobbies working against Armed
Forces Personnel and ESM. Any welfare scheme is strongly opposed and
rejected. How can it be possible that PM of the country makes a
commitment and the bureaucracy rejects it on one pretext or other?
Sir, all ESM organizations of India are jointly requesting you to look
into OROP issue and approve it at the earliest. We assure you that the
OROP definition is very simple and has no complication at all. We
are ready to give you a presentation and explain to you OROP in just
20 min. May we therefore be given 30 min time to meet you. May we also
request you to kindly treat Armed Forces Personnel and Ex-servicemen
at par with other citizen of India? At present we are getting step
motherly treatment form GOI.
LOOKING FOR A FARE AND JUST TREATMENT FROM GOI
Aggrieved Ex-servicemen of India.
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Audience in the ESM Conclave
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Col Anil Kaul welcoming members

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Gen Sec addressing the ESM
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Sh Rajeev Chandrashekhar MP
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Maj Gen Satbir Singh
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News Paper Report
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News Paper Report


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