Am4 Ryzen 5 3600
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Ryzen 5 3600 supports at least 3200 MHz - it's not the hard ceiling, Gigabyte X570 Aorus Elite allows for memory speed as far as 4733 MHz in overclocked condition. Thus, you can safely try running your Kingston RAM kit at 3600 MHz, BUT whether it will work flawlessly or fail isn't a guarantee, since Gigabyte doesn't have that specific kit or anything close to it from Kingston tested at that speed for that motherboard with that processor (their list of tested RAM for your CPU here: _memory_am4_4L4D_matisse.pdf?v=c4e9aaa4651d9b2b345e1...).
Always consider the possibility of returning/refunding the hardware if it fails to work with your specific configuration.
Well from what I understand even for gaming anything over 32gb does not help the overall efficiency of the system. That being said I have never had the that much memory in build so I am not sure. I do know that buying memory that is not matched rarely is compatible. I found a program the gives you the specs on memory after I tried to add 16 gb to an existing build for a total of 32gb. I could not get a stable system. At first thought the mobo was going bad. Then since the last thing added was memory I looked there. The system would run fine with the new or old 16gb but not together. GSkill red ripjaws - same specs and model but bought a year apart. The program shows build date and parts used to build ram. Come to find out the first was samsung and the second was hynix. So I ordered a 32gb set. I wish I could find the program to check memory. So the answer is yes the processor and mobo support the speed but I would not risk the incompatibility of ram purchased separately. I don't know for sure but according to what I have read the boost from 64gb at 3200mhz to 64gb of 3600 is not that big. On most of my builds I did have to tweak the mobo settings to get the most out of my ram. If you want a system with 128gb of ram go for it, life is an adventure.
Your RAM needs to be purchased as a SET. 128GB (4 x 32GB) If you purchase them 1 or 2 at a time they will not be compatible. Also if you mix 3200 with 3600 you need to keep in mind that it will run at the slowest speed which would be the 3200.
Yes, the 3600MHz RAM is compatible with Ryzen 5 3600. Your Gigabyte X570 Aorus Elite motherboard also supports this speed. Remember to enable XMP in the BIOS for optimal performance. Check your motherboard's QVL for compatibility before purchasing.
The Gigabyte X570 Aorus Elite motherboard does support 3200/3600 speeds, I was told by Gigabyte support that you will need to overclock the ram manually to achieve these speeds as XMP profile is not compatible with certain types of ram.
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Well, I can't give you that data anymore because I changed my processor, but hear me out, there's a reason why I changed the processor and I think you should remove Zen 2 CPUs from the supported list:
I tested with ReBar off, and i've noticed something VERY weird: My performance improved, on all of these games, and, most important, the stutters were mostly gone. But as Intel ARC GPUs perform better with ReBar ON, I indeed was underperforming comparing to other systems with ARC A750 graphics (looking from videos online).
Then I bought a second hand Ryzen 5600 to do some more digging, and my performance was, all of the sudden, much better, basically the same as in the reviews, and with the 5600 if I DISABLE ReBar, I lose performance, unlike with the 3600 that with ReBar OFF it improved its performance.
@Jean_Intel I know you probably need more data to report to your graphics development team, and I'm happy to provide it to you (I just don't have the 3600 anymore), but now I'm almost 100% sure it's something to do with poor ReBar implementation within Ryzen 3000 CPUs by AMD, I've had a Radeon 5600XT, a RX 6500XT and an RTX 3050 with the Ryzen 3600 before and they all also got worse performance with ReBar enabled. I'm sure if you guys do more testing with Ryzen 3000 CPUs combined with 500 series Motherboards you'll be able to replicate my (and a lot of people's) problem. I really think you should remove Zen 2 from the supported CPU list.
Would be perfect if you're able to report this directly to who makes this testings and drivers instead of giving me the usual customer service bureaucracy, I'm not with this problem anymore because I have changed my processor, but i'm willing to help the comunity as a whole!
I agree with this. I thank you for bringing this up!! The biggest issue here is that Intel should be testing more on the 3000/4000 series CPUs. With Rebar enabled, the game Control, ray tracing is horrifically stuttery with low frame rate (mid 20s at best). I just so happened to decide to disable rebar in bios and Control was then buttery smooth with ray tracing high. I can certainly say that the majority of tests that I completed were slower but only marginally however much more usable with rebar off.
Hey, @CaptainBennet , in my answer to @Jean_Intel comment, you can see I did some digging around this and I'm almost sure Zen 2 CPUs (Ryzen 3000 non-G and Ryzen 4000) have poor ReBar support, as with my testing I got WORSE performance with ReBar on.
Problem is that, although you'll get more stable performance disabling ReBar with your Ryzen 3600, you'll also not use near the full potential of your ARC GPU, as it will lose around 30% performance with ReBar off (compared to it's full potential).
I would recommend disabling ReBar and, if possible, flipping a 5600 or better, even a used one (now they're pretty cheap anyways). That's what I did, and I got much better performance indeed.
Also, you can improve things a little by converting everything non-DX12 and non-Vulkan with DXVK, this did wonders for me:
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Hi!
I've finally got my new PC and i seem to have a problem. My CPU (Ryzen 5 3600) temperature is way too high comparing to my old cpu (i5 7400). On my old RIG temperatures while browsing the internet never got higher than 45C, and on my new computer it heats up to even 65 C with like 10% CPU usage. Average temperature after 1 hour of normal usage is 49 C, I use stock BOX cooler and the tempartures seem to be really high. After 15 minutes of OCCT stress test my R5 3600 hovered around 82-83C without turbo mode on working at 3900 mhz. Is it normal or am i paranoic. My MOBO is MSI B450 Gaming Plus MAX. Pictures with temps, voltages and freq after 15 minutes of testing.
I've tested the CPU playing Rainbow 6 Siege on maxed out settings. After 1,5h of playing multiplayer mode the cpu max temp was 73c. It usually hovered around 69-73 just spiking from time to time. What is the safe temperature while gaming?
Looks OK to me, under heavy loads like that these chips are meant to run relatively hot. AMD push these chips to the max. If it really bothers you , you can get a halfway decent 3rd party cooler, it did help somewhat lower the temps on my 3600x. But on the stock cooler, i'd say you're doing pretty good there.
Internet search shows large Silicon rectifiers (2000 Amperes) offered, specified for 180C environment (internal temperature is even higher). The ultimate internal temperature for a Silicon device is dependent on many factors but a typical modern implementation is maximum of 200C. Experiments have shown ability to run a silicon device at 500C. AMD is not pushing their silicon at 95C. Enjoy, John.
I use a tiny dot of MX-4 and put my OEM fan on the unit, power up and work. Thermal pumping spreads the MX-4 for me over the course of a few weeks with the machine on and off with standby when I sleep etc.
I have a Lenovo prebuilt (Ideacentre G14AMR05 - 90Q0HN) with a Ryzen 5 - 3600 and a GTX 1650 Super single fan in it. It seems to run at about 64 degrees at idle (Observed via Ryzen Master) and gets like 83 degrees while playing CSGO at 1080p Ultra. Although i noticed a difference between the temps shown by Ryzen Master and MSI Afterburner / Riva Tuner Statistics Server, it was simply too high for a happy Ryzen which has dual channel 16Gb 3200Mhz memory not to mention the beefy cooler with 3 copper heat pipes.
Even stranger, is that it still maintains about 3.9 Ghz to 4.15 Ghz at 86 degrees
Is there any solution to it? Or is it another problem caused by OEM class bloatware and BIOS defaults?
Note - the bios in this prebuilt doesn't allow you to do anything much..
So I've just switched from my old haswell based z97 motherboard to a Ryzen x570 + 3600 + 32GB 3200 MHz RAM with a GTX 1050 for transcoder duties . . . . and things haven't gone well so far. I definitely hadn't factored in the downsides of not having an iGPU when you can't login over a network - I think this is now solved and was because I'd set up my router (asuswrt-merlin) to bind the assigned IP to the MAC address of the old motherboard NIC.
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