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really weird for glitchedpuppet to pretend to care about consent with characters when they've used my sona as a hurtful caricature of me explicitly mocking the fact that I told them I did not consent to me, my characters or my experiences being used as comic fodder for their for profit webcomic.
but if it is... isn't the rest of the panel about how you hung around in a floraverse discord even though it made you miserable and it was a huge burden to not be horrible at us at every opportunity? in which case one wonders why you are still, four years later, obsessing over floraverse, even responding to a two-and-a-half-hour podcast within 24 hours
also it's my understanding that this panel is not and has never been on the website? i mean, the filename here is unknown-1.png, which is a filename you'd get from saving an image that was pasted into discord. if you'd saved it from the website it would have a real filename. i even tracked down where it was posted in #talsam, and the filename is indeed unknown.png
it just reminds me of how the hate blog you've apparently been co-running for the better part of a decade is named after a lie. (and uses names of flora characters?) or how you accused me of grooming a minor via a mobile game i've never played. fun stuff.
it's odd you say the freely hosted online comic is "for profit". you know i've only heard that framing once before? it was earlier today, in fact, from a different throwaway account. was that just you again, or is there a little group of you somewhere planning this stuff? if so, what do you think about the snotty comics someone posted in the tag a week or two ago starring masked papaya? was that one of you? i think it even suggested that glip should be fine with pom drawing porn of them against their wishes. do you condone that? or do you only pretend to care about consent when you can beat glip over the head with it?
I... brought this up to you in these logs, the logs you yourself dumped to KF? anyone can check this? I brought up the pain around this, I ASKED you about this? I literally asked you how you'd want to be credited... for a VN that never went on the site? it was never posted publicly. the panel that was made was part of MALwire examining Lepor, because I was examining patterns of malice that I felt from you before. when you told me, in these logs, not to worry about crediting you... I never drew lepor again. i have not drawn lepor since this conversation.
the panel that was posted after we stopped talking was part of a set that already existed, and I never posted the others publicly before that point. the panel was part of me trying to understand the malice i felt from you and KF at times. i wish you didn't forget our entire conversation and act like it never happened. this is part of why i stopped speaking with you. your memory is shit and you hurt other people for it, like me, instead of checking at all. it's really not acceptable. this is the kind of thing that made me feel suicidal before, and you're likely to actually kill someone if you don't change this behavior. i am being serious. please, please think this over. please seriously think about how your behavior could lead to someone's suicide, because at times I felt like it was going to lead to mine. i feel stable here so don't worry. I've long since processed our interactions and I don't feel bad currently. but you've been so cruel to me before, and you're doing it again. the way you misrepresent my words and treat me as inherently uncaring is just cruel.
additionally.. I... didn't actually feel comfortable ever working with Lepor again because I didn't want to associate with you. I still had feelings to work out over you, like how apparently you completely deny my CSA happened to me, in order to justify invalidating lots of my experiences and feelings. I hope that's not true, but that's what I've heard. you've basically dismissed and invalidated a lot of abuse I've gone through... and here in your current post you're acting like you never were okay with me using your character... when in these logs you don't mind at all? and don't even want credit? and you don't call Lepor a sona either here, you call it a general purpose character. which feels different.
regardless, I don't understand why you're acting like you told me no? I never heard anything from you or anyone around you about you not wanting me to use this character. regardless... I also don't use them now? I again haven't drawn that character since before the log I posted. so... yes? I do care about what I'm connecting to, and I care about consent?
I wish you'd stop lying. it feels like you can never stop lying about me and what happened even when you act like logs are king of proof. this is in our dms, hare. you could have checked. you could have done any number of things to actually look into what happened... but you resorted to lying, again. did it even occur to you that you might have been lying? or did you genuinely believe this? this is a real question! because if you forgot, then that makes me think you didn't feel you could say no at the time. that's a big problem. if you had told me "I'm not comfortable with my character being used" at the time, I would have respected that. instead you said "dw about credits" and laughed about it like it was no big deal at all. why did you do that? where were you coming from? were you actually that scared of saying "I don't want this"? I would have listened to that, hare. why do you act like my words don't mean anything? where are you getting hurt in your day to day life that you feel fine taking it out on me? this is genuine. when i used to take out my feelings on others, i was getting really hurt by marl and things around me. so i feel concerned for you because it feels like something is really wrong in your life. i hope no one is violating your consent.
this happened within the past few months with someone else. they acted like their consent in the RP was being violated by characters, but that never happened and the characters didn't have those intentions and this hurt some of us players really badly. it turned out this person was actually going through violation at home and they were displacing feelings onto us. so what i'm feeling right now is "hare, you're probably around people who don't care about your consent. this is really concerning." i am starting to feel a bit of pain because i would prefer that you're around people who DO care about your consent. i don't think you're handling what's going on very well, but I really don't want to hold it against you because it feels like you're being hurt by someone you're close to or care about, and I care more about pointing that out so you can examine it. this is not me trying to be a bitch right now, this is me feeling pain for whatever your situation is that you've done this. forgetting what happened and lashing out is a really big sign of abuse. please, please i am begging you to please take a look at your life and examine where you might be accepting things you don't want. things you feel like you "HAVE" to accept. because you don't. you don't have to accept someone violating your consent or not caring about it. please please please think it over
I talk to people about the full context of your words when I bring you up. I bring these logs up, I share that you (supposedly) think that it does matter what kinds of things are said about others... according to the logs I've shared. but it doesn't actually feel to me like you think that, even if I want to respect and acknowledge that you do say you care about it.
like, it doesn't feel like you have healthy boundaries. i wish you'd told me "I don't feel comfortable with you using my character" instead of feeling bad that I did and pretending you didn't okay it. I can understand feeling hurt by a "caricature" but that's... how you come across. you come across like you genuinely don't think it matters what others say about each other elsewhere. you excused KF's actions a lot, you wouldn't accept the impact it had on me. you deny many of my experiences and erase so much of my context and things I've been through
why do you do this? what do you get from this? from what I was told, you stress so bad over me that you lose hair? is this still happening? can't you see how this would be unhealthy for you to engage with? does it hurt you to have lied about me here? do you feel bad about that? does that matter to you? does it matter to you that you would cause me to feel suicidal in how you handled my feelings? why do you keep engaging with me when i've talked about how badly you've hurt me? why do you keep seeking me out and keep seeking these things out when you seemingly get so hurt by it?
why do you make everyone else do your emotional labor? why do you make everyone else point out where you get things wrong, or where you lie about being okay with something? why do you blame me for you not being comfortable now? why do you think I wouldn't care about what you have to say about lepor now? I wouldn't want to use lepor now. I don't like connecting to you. writing this isn't pleasant to me, but it's important to me to say I don't like that you're trying to self-harm using me and also I do feel genuine concern and sadness for you about what it means that you've forgotten. even if i don't like connecting to you, in this case i feel compelled to say something. I don't think trying to connect with me or floraverse is healthy for you, or probably anyone you talk to. I would really like if you leave me alone and get some help. (not in a derogatory way but you genuinely seem like you're in a lot of pain, and I really wish you could get help with that instead of taking it out on me.)
I just don't understand. please don't assume i read everything said about me, either. i don't. you might, but i genuinely don't because i value my mental health. i don't consent to ingesting most of the poison about me out there, poison you yourself contributed to. i avoid most things like the post you've made here, but this struck a personal place for me. i really GENUINELY wish you would have stronger boundaries for yourself and stop hurting me with the image of me you've crafted who doesn't care what happens to you. it feels like you assumed i wouldn't care about this despite me saying i did today. i do care about you even if i don't really want to talk to you again, generally.
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