Mystery Hops Analysis from Jason

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Greetings:

As you might remember, I sent off a sample of my mystery hops to Jason Perrault. His email back to me is below.

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Tom,
I have taken a look at your sample and had some analyses done. The results of the analyses are below. While not conclusive, this does narrow it down some and given the appearance of the plant and the results below I am leaning towards something like Galena or Brewer's Gold. Some other less likely culprits are Wye Target or Pride of Ringwood, though I am not sure how they would have ended up in Vermont. I did not have enough hops to do a comparative rub and sniff, but we did pot the rhizome so we can continue to look at it.

There is also the chance they are not a commercial variety at all, or I have missed something and it is much simpler (quality analysis can vary from location to location).

Regards,
Jason


UV Spectro: 10.15% Alpha / 6.97% Beta / HSI: 0.229

HPLC: 8.9% Alpha / 6.4% Beta / 36.5% CoH / 54.5% CoL


A special public thank you to Jason for taking the time from his busy schedule to follow up on this. He's a great guy.

I haven't been able to find a comprehensive profile of Brewers Gold or Galena on-line, but I'm inclined to think its Brewers Gold, based on the time of the original planting (80's)
but it appears to be on the high end for Alpha. For those who sampled my mystery hops ale at the Stowe Conference, I think the consensus was that it wasn't aggressively bitter
for a beer that had 4 oz. of 10% Alpha hops in a 5G batch.... so that still has me stumped. Any ideas or comments??

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[Matt Hendry]

 As an Aussie I have some experience with Pride of Ringwood but Prides dont typically  grow well in the US because they are a very  late season hop which is well suited to the Australian climate becuase there is very little snow in the Hop growing areas and the typical Winter is more like Fall except in the southern mountains where it snows and there winter is like  very early spring  .But hops are able to aclimitise themselves so it could be Prides .

[Don Wilson]

I would agree with Matt, there can be subtle changes in plant
chemistry from one ecosystem to another, soil types and
mineralization, amount of sun and rain...

It's ours now, I'm going to grow it and enjoy it ;-)

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[Matt]

@Don Terroir is very well understood in the world of wine and the
growing regions are revered by vintners and wine drinkers world wide
but beer ingredients have become a commodity and hops and grains and
even adjuncts are shipped from all over the world to make
beer .Vermont brewers need to start looking at fostering the local
efforts to grow ingredients like hops if they truly want a Vermont
made beer because at the moment most of the hops come from the Pacific
North West and the grain comes from the Midwest or brewers get
ingredients from overseas .

The worst example is organic beer where the most hops are imported
from New Zealand , Europe or China (Morgan Wolaver I hope your
reading this ) which puts a whole lot of food miles on the hops and
goes against the ethos of most of the organic movement which promotes
that you eat and drink locally .l

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terroir

On Apr 30, 6:41 am, Don Wilson <donaldkwil...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I would agree with Matt, there can be subtle changes in plant
> chemistry from one ecosystem to another,  soil types and
> mineralization, amount of sun and rain...
>
> It's ours now, I'm going to grow it and enjoy it  ;-)
>

> On 4/29/10, Matt Hendry <matthen...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> >  As an Aussie I have some experience with Pride of Ringwood but Prides
> > dont typically  grow well in the US because they are a very  late season hop
> > which is well suited to the Australian climate becuase there is very little
> > snow in the Hop growing areas and the typical Winter is more like Fall
> > except in the southern mountains where it snows and there winter is like
> >  very early spring  .But hops are able to aclimitise themselves so it could
> > be Prides .
>

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[Don Wilson]

Yes, Yes, Yes...

Thanks Matt