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Simon Fafaa

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Nov 4, 2010, 4:28:47 PM11/4/10
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Hello friends @ location labs,

My partners asked us to build a web application for them so that they can track criminal's location by looking up the phone number. It seems the service is availabel for quite some operators (at&T, tmobile) but not Verizon. 
 
Does location labs provide an API to do this operation so third party website can call this API? What is the cost to call this API?
 
The application will mostly used by attorney and police. They will have the privacy concern cleared.
 
Thanks a lot,
Simon

 
On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 7:10 PM, Jason F. <jason.m.f...@gmail.com> wrote:
Mishit,

We are looking into adding the "N" option to the SMS, but to be quite
candid, this not only makes the text message fairly long, but it's
also not a MMA best practice.

Would an acceptable alternative be to make it easier for the end user
to proactively remove the block from their account (without visiting
the Veriplace end user site)?

Please advise.

Thanks,
Jason

p.s. - Maybe you could ask RJ what he thinks on this.  ;-)

On Oct 25, 8:00 am, Mishit <mishi.pa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks Jesse. That was clear.
> By the way Do you know ETA for "N" option fix.
>
> thanks
> /Mishit
>
> On Oct 22, 1:32 pm, Jesse Myers <jesse.my...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Don't this registration process ask for password for account
> > > creation ?
>
> > No. The account is created, but without a password. The user will have
> > to go through the password reset flow on the privacy manager site to
> > create a password. This involves another SMS to their phone.
>
> > > So this means even if user doesn't want to opt-in it creates user
> > > account at veriplace.com ?
>
> > No. The list of blocked numbers that have replied STOP is kept
> > separately from our user accounts, so no account is created. However,
> > to remove the block, the user will have to visit the site and create
> > an account themselves.
>
> > > Good to know that we can reply "N" to deny particular invitation. Is
> > > there any reason why we are not seeing this option in invitation SMS
> > > text.
> > > We only see Y,STOP and HELP options.
>
> > I suspect this is an oversight and will be fixed in a future release.



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Jason F.

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Nov 4, 2010, 4:46:28 PM11/4/10
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Simon,

The Universal Location Service is live on AT&T, Sprint and T-Mobile
today... and will be live on Verizon shortly. You can see the recent
announcement about Verizon here:
http://location-labs.com/press_article.php?newsid=87

Yes, we provide an API to do what you're trying to accomplish.
Details can be found here:
http://developer.veriplace.com/devportal/locationAccessOverview

On Nov 4, 1:28 pm, Simon Fafaa <fafaa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello friends @ location labs,
>
> My partners asked us to build a web application for them so that they can
> track criminal's location by looking up the phone number. It seems the
> service is availabel for quite some operators (at&T, tmobile) but not
> Verizon.
>
> Does location labs provide an API to do this operation so third party
> website can call this API? What is the cost to call this API?
>
> The application will mostly used by attorney and police. They will have the
> privacy concern cleared.
>
> Thanks a lot,
> Simon
>
> To submit a CR, go tohttp://fafaa.com

brad_a...@knowtate.com

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Nov 4, 2010, 4:59:00 PM11/4/10
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So, will Location Labs have a server side solution for Verizon? (i.e., not only smart phone)?

Thx,
Brad

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Jason F.

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Nov 4, 2010, 5:08:11 PM11/4/10
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yes, absolutely.

Simon Fafaa

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Nov 4, 2010, 6:54:13 PM11/4/10
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Thanks a lot Jason. Really appreciate your response. Once we nailed down the requirement, I will contact you guys. - Simon

Simon Fafaa

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Nov 17, 2010, 4:16:04 PM11/17/10
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Helllo,
 
One more question. What is the privacy consent agreement requiremnt? Do all of the users of a website need to sign off some type of agreement required by localtionlabs or only the owner of the website needs to sign the agreement? Is there any programming API between third party website and locationlabs backend for privacy consent management?
 
Thanks,
Simon

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Simon Fafaa

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Nov 18, 2010, 12:28:56 PM11/18/10
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Hello friends at location labs,
 
What is the privacy consent agreement requiremnt in order to use the phone2location service? Do all of the users of a website need to sign off some type of agreement required by localtionlabs or only the owner of the website needs to sign the agreement? Is there any programming API between third party website and locationlabs backend for privacy consent management?
Thanks,
Simon

Jesse Myers

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Nov 18, 2010, 12:39:51 PM11/18/10
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Simon -

Both Location Labs and our carrier partners require the end user to
explicitly grant consent before their location can be shared. The
Universal Location Service provides several mechanisms for this
consent to be granted; most commonly users either response to an SMS
from our short code or use our web-based privacy management site
(veriplace.com).

You can find more information about the APIs we provide on our developer site:

http://developer.veriplace.com/devportal/locationAccessOverview

Jesse

Simon Fafaa

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Nov 18, 2010, 1:47:56 PM11/18/10
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Hi Jesse,
 
Thanks a lot for your message. What we are doing is to build a website so end user can come to our website to use the phone2location service.  The end users are actually policeman and attorneys of our county in Florida. They want to use the service to find out the location of a suspect or a criminal, for example.
 
Your answers suggest to be the other way around - People signup and allow their own location to be shared with others. What we are doing is the opposite - people visit our website and get the location of a target person.
 
Let me ask the question in a different way -  If the target person do not explicitly grant consent, so locationlab service does not allow our website to get their location?
 
Thanks,
Simon

Jesse Myers

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Nov 18, 2010, 2:37:28 PM11/18/10
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Simon -

Correct. Neither Location Labs nor our carrier partners will allow a
mobile device to be located without the end user's consent.

Jesse

Simon Fafaa

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Nov 18, 2010, 4:13:05 PM11/18/10
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Thanks Jesse. Now understand it. 
 
Another question, when an end user explicitly grant the consent, can he/she limits who can locate the device? What is the default behavior? Can anyone locate his/her cell phone?
 
Thanks,
Simon

Jesse Myers

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Nov 18, 2010, 5:48:30 PM11/18/10
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Simon -

Users grant consent to a particular application through our platform.
Once consent is granted, the application may locate the user subject
to the user's privacy settings and until consent is revoked.

How the application uses the location is up to it, but the application
must comply with our developer terms of service and must publish a
privacy policy that clearly states how it will use location.

Jesse

Simon Fafaa

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Nov 18, 2010, 6:10:09 PM11/18/10
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Thanks Jesse. Appreciate it. - Simon
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