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Abbey Synnott

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Aug 3, 2024, 11:24:05 AM8/3/24

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I start with the assumption that Harry Potter wizards (which I call "wandmages") have the same d6 Hit Die, BAB, and base saving throws as Pathfinder wizards. I also figured that when a student arrives at Hogwarts, they're not yet 1st level, but rather a sort of "half" level. The idea is they have the ability to do magic, but haven't got any training yet. If a wandmage can meet the required standards at the end of his first year, then he is considered 1st level. The same thing goes for the other years, so a wandmage who can pass his OWLs at the end of his 5th year is 5th level.

Now, Harry, Ron, and Hermione are not your average Hogwarts students, seeing as how they've had a lot more opportunities to pick up some XP than most of their peers. I decided that Harry is 8th level, while Ron and Hermione are 7th. Draco Malfoy is 6th; he's a little ahead of the curve because of his father's ruthless demands of excellence. Lucius Malfoy and Bellatrix Lestrange are 16th level, since they are in Voldemort's inner circle. Of course, Dumbledore and Voldemort are both 20th level.

Here's the interesting part: ability scores. What I did was to give Harry an 18-point buy, Hermione and Draco the elite array, and Ron a 15-point buy (which has the same number of points as the elite array, but I wanted to avoid any 8s for him.) They all get their human +2 as well as level increases. Dumbledore uses a 20-point buy and has modifiers for old age.

Yes, but it's obvious that the level of magical power an HP wizard has isn't really dependent on Intelligence, since Crabbe and Goyle are as dumb as posts, but can cast Fiendfyre and Avada Kedavra. Therefore, I decided that Charisma would modify the saving throw DCs of HP spells, though that doesn't mean it limits the "level" of spells they can cast.Quote:You also need to give a bit more information on what this "wandmage" might be? I use the Wizard Class (Universal) from the rulebook.There isn't any other information, really, because I'm just trying to get a vague idea of basic stats rather than actually writing up a whole class. Oh, and I'd say Harry is NG and Ron is CG. Harry isn't quite as enthusiastic about breaking rules as Ron is. After all, the first thing Ron wanted to do when appointed Prefect was give Crabbe and Goyle detention.

I'd argue that the Harry Potter variety of magic lends itself more towards Sorcerer than Wizard. Although we've seen a few spellbooks, they seem overwhelmingly to be teaching aids, not necessary components for every caster. They seem to be casting spontaneously...we've never seen a situation where Herminone wishes she had memorized spell X instead of spell Y. And as stated above, there exist a few really dumb characters that don't seem to have their power level affected.

I'd actually say that it would be a new class, one that combined aspects of wizard (the bonus feats...there's definately an emphasis on potions, and Ron's brothers seem to specialize in low-level wonderous items), and sorcerer because non-Intelligence based spontaneous spellcasting. Also, while Hermione obviously has a high intelligence, she's played by Emma Watson, who obviously enjoys a rather nice Charisma bonus.

Kthulhu, I'd agree with you that the witches and wizards in Harry Potter are actually Sorcerors, since in that universe you are either born a wizard or a Muggle, and Muggles not only have no magic powers of any sort, no matter how much occult learning they do, they can never gain any.

Sorceror, arcane bloodline + arcane bond (wand); If you really want to increase the HP flavor, let the wand substitute for most focus components. ALSO, sorcerors get "Eschew Materials" for free. And if you want to make it a universal rule, since you won't have anyone playing a Wizard class, just make int their spellcasting stat.

i would argue wizard because they have to learn their spells and they know many many spells. Spontaneous casting is typical of almost all movies. They are definitely not sorcerers as their magic is learned in my humble opinion.

Harry did a lot of magic spontaneously before he was taught. Ditto Tom Riddle before him. They're sorcerers, and Harry and Tom both have the new snaky bloodline from the APG which I believe lets you talk to snakes.

I would definitely write up membership in the various Hogwarts houses as Pathfinder traits. I expect Ravensclaw would give you a bonus for all Knowledge checks or work something like bardic knowledge, Gryffindor would give you a free reroll versus fear effects, Hufflepuff would likely give a bonus to Diplomacy and Handle Animal, and of course Slitherin would give you a large bonus to Diplomacy and Intimidate when dealing with dark wizards or any other evil magical creatures. I don't think that the OP was looking to set a campaign (or even an adventure) at Hogwarts. In any event the magic system of the game and the D&D/Pathfinder magic systems do not mesh well. Mainly because students at a "Wizard's School" in D&D/Pathfinder aren't even going to be level one. It's generally assumed you reach level one (along with your whopping 1d6 hit points) when you graduate. Not so in Harry Potter. AUC.register('auc_MessageboardPostRowDisplay'); AjaxBusy.register('masked', 'busy', 'auc_MessageboardPostRowDisplay', null, null) roguerouge Aug 8, 2010, 04:01 am Remember that Hermione knocks down Draco with one blow. Either Draco should have a terrible Con or she should have surprising strength.

I would say their control of their magic is learned but their magic is not. Look what happened with Harry at the Zoo in book one. They go to school to learn control, much like the Mutants in the Marvel Universe are born with their powers and may attend Xavier's school for gifted youngsters.Therefore I would say that most Harry Potter 'Wizards' are Sorcerers, though I think, like with d20 modern there might be different classes of wizards. For example:

Most Quiditch Players would have levels in 'jock wizard' which is more Charisma based with someone like Cho Chang being multiclassed while Harry and Oliver Wood would be single classed, more efficent build.

Luna might be a wisdom based caster. Even though she's a bit crazy she does seem to be clear minded. She, with her interest in Magizoology would be a good wizarding or perhaps with some Oracle levels (And her delusions being her 'curse').

The Pathfinder/d20 system doesn't do a particularly good job of modeling why some characters are better than others. Harry, it should be pointed out, doesn't have much special going for him as a wizard apart from being a parseltongue, and that's something he got artificially from Voldemort's mystical screw-up. Other than that, he just gets an insane amount of pressure to achieve from everyone, Voldemort included.

Ron? He's spent his points on being a member of Clan Weaseley, which, it should be pointed out, is a family chock full of wizards with a dozen different specialties, and it should also be pointed out and stressed, all the members of the current generations are both sane and non-evil. The closest any of them have come to "going to the dark side" is Percy getting in with the bureaucracy of the Ministry of Magic, and being a brown-noser is pretty tepid considering the other pureblood families that have evil whackjobs bouncing off the walls of Azkhaban. Ron would have something along the lines of the "Favored in House" feat from Eberron. You could also give him some variant on the Dragonmarked Heir prestige class where in place of the Dragonmark powers, he gets to reach into his pockets and pull out some magic item he's gotten from a family member. Flying car? Check. Assorted minor magic items from Fred and George? Check.

Why not butcher the 3.5 Psionics system for magical power? Not the powers themselves but the basic rules structure. More generic 'spells' with augmentable parts. Alter the rules on augmentation limits and how 'magic points' are acquired, spent, and recharged.

For something related to harry potter, I would recommend a free build rpg, like storyteller or savage worlds. But if u insist on pathfinder, can't say I blame u, I would say sorcerer for their class due to the bloodlines and I would say give them a choice of what stat they wana cast with, kind of like they did in 3.5 psionics. That way u can be dumb as a rock and still be a potent spellcaster.

But, she's not smashing in doors and wrestling giant three-headed dogs. This is probably just a natural 20 and a confirmed critical roll. AUC.register('auc_MessageboardPostRowDisplay'); AjaxBusy.register('masked', 'busy', 'auc_MessageboardPostRowDisplay', null, null) Shain Edge Aug 25, 2010, 09:57 am Lamashan Dalastonor wrote: roguerouge wrote: Remember that Hermione knocks down Draco with one blow. Either Draco should have a terrible Con or she should have surprising strength. But, she's not smashing in doors and wrestling giant three-headed dogs. This is probably just a natural 20 and a confirmed critical roll. That would be agreed. That and Draco is a bully, but a bully who's strength is to rely on other's muscle rather then take blows himself. He'd have no better then average CON, in my opinion. AUC.register('auc_MessageboardPostRowDisplay'); AjaxBusy.register('masked', 'busy', 'auc_MessageboardPostRowDisplay', null, null) Lyrax Aug 25, 2010, 11:26 am 1 person marked this as a favorite. If you want to do a Hogwarts RPG, the setup seems very simple:
All players must take sorcerer (arcane bloodline) OR wizard for their first level. They must take a wand as a bonded object. Players may also choose, at GM's discretion, bard. But the bard must wield a wand in order to cast spells.