New Vegan needs labels

[Katharine Riggins]

Am a newly allergic patient to eggs, thus the vegan wines are a must.  Had 'Yellowtail' Merlot last night - doesn't agree with me at all!  Trader Joes is my market to buy wines at...who can heartily recommend a merlot, or cab??

 

New Vegan

[Carol Foye]

Try Our Daily Red. Think TraderJoes has it.

[Ken Kowalchek]

You might try asking your wine merchant for Kosher wines, all vegetarian.  There are beaucoup choices - many more than "Grandma's Easter Sweet Wine" aka Maneshewitz Concord.  The labels thereon usually have a discreet U (kosher) often with a small p (passover) on the label. 
Bonne chance!

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From: Katharine Riggins <kipri...@gmail.com>
To: vega...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 3:51:48 PM

Subject: [veganwine] New Vegan needs labels

Am a newly allergic patient to eggs, thus the vegan wines are a must.  Had 'Yellowtail' Merlot last night - doesn't agree with me at all!  Trader Joes is my market to buy wines at...who can heartily recommend a merlot, or cab??

 

New Vegan

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[Karin Yates]

TJ's cab is pretty good, shiraz not bad either.  Supposedly the reds are vegan.

KY

On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 3:51 PM, Katharine Riggins <kipri...@gmail.com> wrote:

Am a newly allergic patient to eggs, thus the vegan wines are a must.  Had 'Yellowtail' Merlot last night - doesn't agree with me at all!  Trader Joes is my market to buy wines at...who can heartily recommend a merlot, or cab??

 

New Vegan

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"People often say that humans have always eaten meat, as if this is a justification for continuing the practice.  According to logic, we should not try to prevent people from murdering other people, since this has also been done since the earliest of times"

~Isaac Bashevis Singer

[Roz CC]

Are there "eggs" or egg products in wines?  I thought wines were not vegan due to the bone chart and/or dairy aspect.

 

Roz

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From: Katharine Riggins <kipri...@gmail.com>
To: vega...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 3:51:48 PM
Subject: [veganwine] New Vegan needs labels

[Sylvia Garcia]

Vintage Roots are a great organic and biodynamic wine supplier who also notify clearly all of their wines which are suitable for vegans. They can also do commercial wholesale as well as domestic- see vintageroots.co.uk and ask for Ewan- he is great. Alternatively- pop down to my restaurant where we have a full organic and vegan selection exclusively from Vintage Roots. See www.root-master.co.uk for more info. Hope this helps Sylvia Garcia Managing Director Rootmaster Ltd --- On Sun, 30/8/09, Roz CC <roz6...@yahoo.com> wrote:

[Katharine Riggins]

Thanx about the kosher labels.  So many merchants are lost when you ask them questions.  I'm learning!  U   p  . Got it. 

[katharine riggins]

Thanks! Will try it.
 
> Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 19:21:44 -0500

> Subject: [veganwine] Re: New Vegan needs labels

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> To: vega...@googlegroups.com
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[Shaynie Brandler]

Speaking as someone who is knowledgeable about kashrut (i.e., keeping kosher) and who is a vegan, "kosher" does NOT mean vegetarian, nor is a vegetarian wine suitable for Katharine if she is trying to avoid eggs. Egg shells are often used for the fining process in wine-making (as is insinglass, a product derived from the bladders of slaughtered fish). Egg shells are acceptable to people who keep kosher and acceptable to ovo-vegetarians. If you are trying to avoid wine that has been contaminated with eggs, you MUST get a VEGAN wine, not simply "kosher" or "vegetarian". Furthermore, products labelled "kosher" may contain meat/dairy/eggs/fish, although they will not contain a combination of meat and dairy within the same product. Products labelled with "kosher" and the letter "D" contain dairy. Products labelled with "kosher" and the word "parve" or "pareve" will not contain meat or dairy, but may contain eggs and/or fish. 

Shaynie 

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Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 17:49:04 -0700
From: kowal...@yahoo.com

Subject: [veganwine] Re: New Vegan needs labels

To: vega...@googlegroups.com

[Katharine Riggins]

Roz, Hi! Now that I have to know (have acquired a severe egg allergy), it turns out that winemakers use egg whites to fine (clarify) wines.  Some vineyards do it to the reds only, some the whites only, some both.  Vegan wines don't fine with egg whites.  Kosher wines, according to people in this group (!) are vegan. Now I'm staying away from wines that add sulphites, too.   

Have a great week. - Kip

[Katharine Riggins]

Very informative.  Vegan it is. - Katharine (Kip)

[Katharine Riggins]

Wish I could 'pop down'.  I'm popping down to Mexico this weekend. Have a penchant for tropical storms. :) - Kip

[Shaynie Brandler]

Yesterday I sent a detailed explanation to this group about kosher NOT being automatically equated with either vegetarian or vegan, and now today again there's someone in this group writing that kosher wines are automatically vegan wines. See below, my resend of yesterday's explanation about kashrut as it relates to vegetarianism and veganism, with special emphasis for Katharine about her "egg issue".
 
Shaynie
 

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From: naive_...@hotmail.com
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Subject: [veganwine] Re: New Vegan needs labels

Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 20:15:35 +0000

Speaking as someone who is knowledgeable about kashrut (i.e., keeping kosher) and who is a vegan, "kosher" does NOT mean vegetarian, nor is a vegetarian wine suitable for Katharine if she is trying to avoid eggs. Egg shells are often used for the fining process in wine-making (as is insinglass, a product derived from the bladders of slaughtered fish). Egg shells are acceptable to people who keep kosher and acceptable to ovo-vegetarians. If you are trying to avoid wine that has been contaminated with eggs, you MUST get a VEGAN wine, not simply "kosher" or "vegetarian". Furthermore, products labelled "kosher" may contain meat/dairy/eggs/fish, although they will not contain a combination of meat and dairy within the same product. Products labelled with "kosher" and the letter "D" contain dairy. Products labelled with "kosher" and the word "parve" or "pareve" will not contain meat or dairy, but may contain eggs and/or fish. 

Shaynie 

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[tgildred]

Ah... got it. So, kosher is wine is vegan?





(just kidding)

On Sep 1, 4:44 pm, Shaynie Brandler <naive_sav...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Yesterday I sent a detailed explanation to this group about kosher NOT being automatically equated with either vegetarian or vegan, and now today again there's someone in this group writing that kosher wines are automatically vegan wines. See below, my resend of yesterday's explanation about kashrut as it relates to vegetarianism and veganism, with special emphasis for Katharine about her "egg issue".
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> Shaynie
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> From: naive_sav...@hotmail.com
> To: vega...@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [veganwine] Re: New Vegan needs labels
> Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 20:15:35 +0000
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> Speaking as someone who is knowledgeable about kashrut (i.e., keeping kosher) and who is a vegan, "kosher" does NOT mean vegetarian, nor is a vegetarian wine suitable for Katharine if she is trying to avoid eggs. Egg shells are often used for the fining process in wine-making (as is insinglass, a product derived from the bladders of slaughtered fish). Egg shells are acceptable to people who keep kosher and acceptable to ovo-vegetarians. If you are trying to avoid wine that has been contaminated with eggs, you MUST get a VEGAN wine, not simply "kosher" or "vegetarian". Furthermore, products labelled "kosher" may contain meat/dairy/eggs/fish, although they will not contain a combination of meat and dairy within the same product. Products labelled with "kosher" and the letter "D" contain dairy. Products labelled with "kosher" and the word "parve" or "pareve" will not contain meat or dairy, but may contain eggs and/or fish.
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> Shaynie
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[Ken Kowalchek]

Shaynie and Group:

Thank you, Shaynie, for the clarification of the "clarification issue" on Kosher wines for Vegans.  Rather than my initial missive stating Kosher wines are vegetarian, I should have said that Kosher wines are typically vegegarian.

 

Kosher winemakers today typically use bentonite (clay) for fining rather than deal with kashrut certification issues of whether exclusively kosher ground fish/animals were used by vinters' suppliers of isinglass or gelatin.  Although egg whites may be used in clarification of Kosher wine, (OK for lacto-ovo vegetarians but unfit for vegans), the likelihood is that today's Kosher wine producers clarify with bentonite, making it fit for vegans also. 

 

Here is a link that corroborates for info of the group

  

http://www.cs.utexas.edu/~walter/wine/kosher.html

 

OU Question Person:

Do you have any further insights to share about OU kosher wine certification with lacto-ovo vegetarian or vegan wine seekers?

 

Have a good continuation, all.

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From: Shaynie Brandler <naive_...@hotmail.com>
To: VeganWine VeganWine <vega...@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2009 4:44:03 PM
Subject: [veganwine] Kosher does NOT mean Vegan!!! Kosher does NOT mean Vegan!!! Kosher does NOT mean Vegan!!!

Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 17:49:04 -0700
From: kowal...@yahoo.com

Subject: [veganwine] Re: New Vegan needs labels

[Katharine Riggins]

Vegan red wines for me so far have been disastrous. I wouldn't recommend 'Our Daily Red' - tastes like a cheap cooking wine... Supposidly the egg whites used are trace, maybe it is worth taking a chance on non-vegan wines. 

[Claire Cunniffe]

No, don't do that, there are loads of fantastic vegan friendly wines out there.  Try the Co-op own brands - if they are vegan they will be labelled - the fair trade ones are good.  Or there is a company called Vinceremos who I order all my wine from - all their wines are vegetarian and most are vegan and clearly identifiable from their website. http://www.vinceremos.co.uk/

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[Hazel Robertson]

There are some good reds from Sainsbury as well - a few of their own label wines are clearly marked Vegan. 

[Philip Nicholls]

Ja I shpotted dis too.
 

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From: haz...@bowesrigg.freeserve.co.uk

To: vega...@googlegroups.com
Subject: [veganwine] Re: Kosher does NOT mean Vegan!!! Kosher does NOT mean Vegan!!! Kosher does NOT mean Vegan!!!

Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 18:46:05 +0100