Painters Roman Nf Font Free

[Custodio Groves]

Thanksfor this initiative S-Jones568.

Its a great Idea to make a database of custom made fonts and logos.

Not all fonts and logos we need are available on the web.

Having texture-artists being able and willing to make these items for the community is great.

Its is not the idea to download fonts and logos wich are already available on the www and place them in this topic.

You already stated "we have made", nevertheless I care to emphasize on this .

It would be a waiste of space on the X-Plane.org server and copyrights might become a problem.

Leen de Jager/ paintshop-mod.

The original idea by S-Jones568 was to have a place where fonts and logos ,wich are NOT available at the internet, can be provided by people who took the effort of creating them themselves.

S-Jones placed some interesting items himself.

Later he placed some logos belonging to specific aicraft , simply said , nose-art. (see attached screenshot)

Thats not what I think what we are talking about with fonts and logos.

Nose-art or specific font for an aircrafts name is something different, in my opinion its artwork.

Making artwork is fine, but thats not where this forum has been set up for.

Just a collection of hard to find logos and fonts.

I told him this a few days ago and I have hidden his last two posts.

I explaned why and did not get an answer to my PM.

He removed what he already had placed here instead of.........................

Logos like Vonhinx placed here can be found within seconds on the internet, so we do not really need them to be placed here.

Beech logos do not make me worry about copyright.

What is the font for the call -sign of most airplanes?

Are we taling about the registration on wing and fuselage OR are we talking about the call-sign written on the panel.

The call sign on the panel is not the same as used for this number on wings and fuselage.

The answer is amazingly simple.

This question has only one answer.

Look at a photo from the real thing and search for the font OR ( and that works almost as fast) re-create the font yourself.

As far as I know there are rules for registration-fonts for individual countries, not by international rules or agreements, just by written or unwritten habits for individual countries.

Sometimes they only give guidelines for the shape,size and position of the characters.

Sometimes (maybe) about the font type.

Years ago a font-type for german airplanes was developed named "Blockschrift fur Flugzeuge" and there are many fonts for airforces all over the orld.

There are rules for dutch registrations telling what font must be used ( see FAQ nr8) but in reality we see many different fonts.

We cannot say on an english airforce-plane, an english GA or an english airliner we must have this or that font.There is no list telling us wich font belongs on wich aircraft. Never found it anyways.

Its always a question on having a look at the font and search for it or just make it.

I am sorry to say, your G-DFHT is not corresponding with the example (squared-off)

The middle of the G should be about twice the width of the black lines of the character.( following the exmple in the guide )

The G should have a rectangle ,right-under.

NB. It is not a guide.

Its a bit more than a guide, better said its a guide wich tells us how to make a registration on a Britsh aircraft within the rules.

Thats something completely different than saying "You must use this or that explicit described font"

These rules tell us wich font-family we have to use.

We have to use a Roman font for English planes.

These rules tell us how we can use ANY Roman font-type within the restrictions of the rules.

If there was one particular font-type precribed it would be useless to talk about proportions and charcters having no ornamentation.

This lettering is required to conform to the English alphabet and is defined in the international standard ICAO Annex 7 as capital letters in Roman characters (as distinct from eg. Cyrillic or Arabic characters). Examples of lettering styles accepted as meeting the requirements of the Order are given below

As a result of that we will have to look at registrations and look for or create ourselves a corresponding one for our paint.

Just a handfull of examples. ( see how even the guide-lines are not followed correctly )

All Britsh, all different .

The only thing they have in common, they all start with a G. ( wich we all knew before starting this discussion )

As I said before, look at the real thing and reproduce what you see.

There is no ohter place to discover how the registration G-BCYR looks than on the actual plane itself.

Besides that ,when we reproduce a livery, our livery should look like the real thing and like nothing else.

Forget about rules and just see what you must paint.

There will be no severe penalty when doing it not exactly following the guide-line (not in real life either , I know by experience))

For a sim-re-painter its just a fair chance to demonstrate his/her skills.

Make it look as on the real plane.

Within compliance with the provisions Article 5 there is a huge space for variation.

We can choose the kind (type-face) of Roman font-family , so not a specific font (type-face) is required.

Any Roman font will do as long as its compliant to the rules about size spacing,placing etc.

Non compliance ( especially when it leads to in-proper display of the registration) MAY lead to prosecution. ( not WILL lead but MAY lead )

In the Netherlands and I assume its the same in the UK, the inspection gives a warning only.

Not giving response to this warning when given may lead to prosecution in the Netherlands too.

Nevertheless the screens I showed the way it works out in practice. ( and wich is really very different from what the rules say)

The screens show us registrations on Britsh planes and they are all different ( not even according the rules )

I did not create them, they are the reality.

As the reality is wat re-painters must reproduce, all whats written about registrations in rules is on non importance for us sim-painters.

What we see on the real plane ,thats the only thing that counts.

There is only one font wich represents the registration of a livery.

Thats just the font as it is used on the real plane.

Not the same registration in another font wich meets the regulations.

When a painter makes a livery wich has a registration wich does not meets the regulations he just has to reproduce that..

So when a painter asks "What type of font should I use on the EasyJet G-ESDE or the G-CPSS Caravan"

The answer is NOT, look it up in CAP523.

The answer is "Look for a picture from the real thing, see and reproduce"

Whenever you buy a new airplane yourself, feel free to follow CAP523 .

Whenever you made fictional livery paint for a Sim, feel free to follow CAP523

Whenever you want to make a paint wich depicts the real thing, just look at the real thing and see how CAP523 has been interpreted

by its real painter.

Its not that I just want to pick holes.Help is appreciated, but sometimes needs some correction or claryfying.

S-Jones568 is fairly right about the UK having regulations like CAP523 and others.

He told us we can see wich font we need for english airplaners in this CAP523.

Thats not the fact and I explained why.

I made clear, these regulations have a lot of room for variations in font-faces, they only give a framework within many font-faces can be used.

Its good to have discussions like this on a painters-forum, registrations and their fonts are a problem for many painters.

As I am not a native english speaker, I sometimes have to explain once again to make things clear. Sorry for that.

As moderator of this forum I really must say:

You participated in this discussion and I picked some holes in your contributions because they were not complete and giving a incorrect impression of the state of registration-regulations for airplanes in the UK.

As a result you removed your posts.

Removing posts from a discussion wich has come to an, for you, unsatisfying end ..............??????????? Come on.

All posts must be quoted in the following answer when we all behave like that?

When and why: Every time I download an airplane, I have this strong habit of personalizing it. It all started years ago with the Beech D-17 (the yellow rectangle with a call-sign higher is an example), following with the Beavers...and so on...

Being a beginner, my personalisation (read modifications) will start with the call-signs, the livery color (that is why I appreciate your livery templates), sometimes changing the panel for exotic woods (not jets of course), changing the pilot for my humble person, and so on....

Ohh I see,

Then I cannot help you the way I had in mind.

I thought I might be able to help you by serarching for the plane and finding the right font for you.

Now I understand your question better, you want to have an indication about Canadian registration-fonts.

Then you have to look here -standards-222-1005.htm

Its simple to find rules and regulations for most western countries-registrations.

Almost all of the regulations are like the oners for UK and Canada, not really giving instructions for the font -face.

Its not a question of slight changes , many (way) different fonts can be used within the Roman family.

MIND Roman is NOT a font, its a font-family, the Font-Face is the model of the font.

As I said before ARIAL is Roman , VERDANA is Roman too , the same goes for Franklin Gothic and hundreds of others, they can be used on all UK and Canadian planes.

On the other hand, when a paintefr wants to make a paint actually depicting a real plane, he just has to make sure the registration on his paint is the same as on the plane.

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