Newbie

[Derek Frost]

Many thanks for accepting me in this group.  Just to say I'm only just getting into the VDE but really enjoying it.  I really struggled to find something that was more simple to use than vim but still quite powerful.  I glossed over too quickly to start with because I didn't realise there was unicode support.  I need that because although I'm English I live in France and need accents sometimes.  This product is nicely nostalgic and yet is not just pure nostalgia for the sake of it.  Many thanks for this utility.

Derek

[Eric Meyer]

"Nicely nostalgic"... that's us. I'm glad you're finding VDE useful. Just
out of curiosity (not many new users these days), what OS are you running it
under?

-- Eric Meyer.

[A Feldman]

Eric, welcome to the VDE family.  I discovered VDE in law school, around 1990, and in those days I ran it on an 8088 processor PC, which I think had 256k ram.  Still to this day I have not found any editor with superior macro capabilities, and believe me I have looked over the years.  I just downloaded a copy of it and am running it on dosemu, on Ubuntu 14.04 and it runs perfectly well and also prints just fine.  I am amazed how this not only still works, but is still a superior editor.

[dmccunney]

On Sun, Sep 27, 2015 at 11:24 AM, A Feldman <aaronfe...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Eric, welcome to the VDE family.

Do you perhaps mean Derek above?

> I discovered VDE in law school, around
> 1990, and in those days I ran it on an 8088 processor PC, which I think had
> 256k ram. Still to this day I have not found any editor with superior macro
> capabilities, and believe me I have looked over the years.

Ever looked at emacs? :-)

> I just
> downloaded a copy of it and am running it on dosemu, on Ubuntu 14.04 and it
> runs perfectly well and also prints just fine. I am amazed how this not
> only still works, but is still a superior editor.

VDE runs under DOSBox as well, and I've run it under Ubuntu that way.
For that matter, I got it to run under Android with a port of DOSBox.
But "run" is stretching a point: DOSBox isn't passing Ctrl-chars
through to the app, which makes usage problematic. That's possibly
fixable by diddling DOSBox's keymap file, but you need a rooted device
to do it (which I have) and know the magic bits to change (which I
don't, yet.)
______
Dennis
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[Derek Frost]

I mostly use it in dosbox on linux or my fiancee's windows machine. I barely scratch the surface of what vde can do. I also like microemacs and edwin on linux.

[dmccunney]

On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 10:32 AM, Derek Frost <derek...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I mostly use it in dosbox on linux or my fiancee's windows machine. I barely scratch the surface of what vde can do. I also like microemacs and edwin on linux.

Which MicroEmacs? The original was code released by Dan Conroy in
version 3. It got picked up by others and released in modified
versions.

I use the version originally developed from Conroy's code by Daniel
Lawrence, which added a macro language. I wrote a MicroEmacs macro to
provide WS key mapping, recognizing Control-K, O, P and Q sequences
and doing the right thing. It was my standard editor under MSDOS, and
the code was highly portable and built out-of-the-box on my Unix
machine so I could run the same editor in both places.

These days I run JASSPA's fork of Lawrence's code under Windows and
Linux. Under Linux, I also use Leafpad for quick stuff, and the Geany
lightweight IDE for more extensive work. (Geany is also available for
Windows.)

I have Vim and Gnu Emacs up uner Linux and Windows as well, but don't
make a lot of use of them.
______
Dennis

[Derek Frost]

I've just discovered Magic DosBox Free on Android which seems to work with control characters:  I haven't tested extensively but it works with vde!  It doesn't run my fave prolog interpreter and if you use ctrlcaps to remap the caps lock it, err, does allow wordstar functionality but it does weird stuff too..  As far as I can make out it suppresses the normal shift key instead of caps lock and leaves you with a 50% chance being in all caps, but wordstar keys still work as expected.

Derek

[dmccunney]

I have Magic DOSBox Free on Android here, but haven't tried to get VDE
running on it. The last attempts I made were using a different port.
I'll have to try VDE again.

I'm not sure why you would need CtrlCaps to remap the caps lock key
just to get Ctrl keys to work. (And I'm not surprised if it behaves
oddly under Android if you do it.) What happens if you *don't* use
CtrlCaps?

And which Prolog interpreter are you running?

> Derek
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Dennis

[Derek Frost]

No, ctrlcaps isn't necessary, it's just that I prefer to use the capslock key.
I like sb prolog in dos but I have others such as pie, and arity that are also good.
I've only recently discovered prolog so I'm just tinkering really.

Derek.

[dmccunney]

On Tue, Apr 5, 2016 at 1:56 PM, dmccunney <dennis....@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 5, 2016 at 10:02 AM, Derek Frost <derek...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I've just discovered Magic DosBox Free on Android which seems to work with
>> control characters: I haven't tested extensively but it works with vde! It
>> doesn't run my fave prolog interpreter and if you use ctrlcaps to remap the
>> caps lock it, err, does allow wordstar functionality but it does weird stuff
>> too.. As far as I can make out it suppresses the normal shift key instead
>> of caps lock and leaves you with a 50% chance being in all caps, but
>> wordstar keys still work as expected.
>
> I have Magic DOSBox Free on Android here, but haven't tried to get VDE
> running on it. The last attempts I made were using a different port.
> I'll have to try VDE again.

And Lo! I did try it, and it appears to work. Magic DOSBox Free is
passing Ctrl-key combos to VDE. There are quirks on my device where
suddenly Ctrl-keys are apparently not passed through, but it's far
better than any previous attempt has been. I looked at several other
DOSBox ports for Android which were not passing Ctrl-chars and made
VDE effectively unusable.

Thanks for the pointer!

>> Derek
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Dennis
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