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Dhanesvara Das
Oct 10, 2010, 2:00:32 PM10/10/10
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Hare Krishna Dear Devotees,
Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada.
At the suggestion of one of our members I am exploring moving this
discussion to Ning. So I ponied up $3 and got a one-month free trial
(why does that cost $3? Go figure). But after working with it for a
couple hours have really no idea how it is supposed to work, or what
to do next. It was my impression that each writer could have his/her
own blog linked from the main page, and other kinds of events, news,
discussion could go on there as well. If any of you understand this
better and want to help me get it set up I would be very grateful.
Please email me privately. Thanks!
Oh, if you want to have a look-see, go to http://varnashramaculture.ning.com/
And if you have any ideas to add to this ning network, please let me
hear from you.
Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada.
At the suggestion of one of our members I am exploring moving this
discussion to Ning. So I ponied up $3 and got a one-month free trial
(why does that cost $3? Go figure). But after working with it for a
couple hours have really no idea how it is supposed to work, or what
to do next. It was my impression that each writer could have his/her
own blog linked from the main page, and other kinds of events, news,
discussion could go on there as well. If any of you understand this
better and want to help me get it set up I would be very grateful.
Please email me privately. Thanks!
Oh, if you want to have a look-see, go to http://varnashramaculture.ning.com/
And if you have any ideas to add to this ning network, please let me
hear from you.
Malya Butenas
Oct 10, 2010, 2:11:00 PM10/10/10
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| Hare Krishna! It says: "We're sorry, but the administrator has chosen to require an invitation to join Varnashrama Culture. If you have an invitation, click the link in the email to join." when I follow the link. Your servant Malyahari-kund dasi --- Den sön 2010-10-10 skrev Dhanesvara Das <integ...@gmail.com>: |
Greg Jay
Oct 10, 2010, 2:43:01 PM10/10/10
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PAMHO AGTSP
I think you are wasting your time.
There are plenty of free ways to communicate.
If you have to learn some new method of communication (unless you can demonstrate how this enhances the discussion significantly) then you are just distancing yourself more from the actual subject.
GKD
Malya Butenas
Oct 10, 2010, 3:41:53 PM10/10/10
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| Hare Krishna, Please accept my humble obeisances, All glories to Srila Prabhupada! Ning may be a better way of communicating, because it can lead to more practical results. The Transition movement has spread over most parts of the world in just a few years with a lot of help from the ning-system. It has many different functions, it´t not just a forum for speaking (or, well, how to say...). It connects people and one can for exemple start working groups on different specific subjects within the network that may lead to practical application. It helps one to quickly find those who are into the same thing. One can also announce events that may be of interests for the members and also use it a library and store texts that are relevent for members. E t c. If it is too difficult to understand it may be an overendevour, but if it could work, this may be a platform that may give more practical results? I haven´t seen anything similar to it free of charge, is there? Your servant Malyahari-kunda dasi --- Den sön 2010-10-10 skrev Greg Jay <jay....@gmail.com>: |
Ganga IDS
Oct 10, 2010, 4:54:38 PM10/10/10
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I suggest the new Facebook feature - groups.
Ganga IDS
Oct 10, 2010, 6:24:52 PM10/10/10
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More on the groups feature:
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/07/technology/07facebook.html?_r=1&src=me&ref=technology
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/07/technology/07facebook.html?_r=1&src=me&ref=technology
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DRousse
Oct 12, 2010, 2:36:06 AM10/12/10
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I looked all over FB but couldn't figure out how to set up a group. Any
ideas how that is done? My connection makes this all the more frustrating.
Your help is GREATLY APPRECIATED!
ideas how that is done? My connection makes this all the more frustrating.
Your help is GREATLY APPRECIATED!
I will answer your letters from pamho today.
Dhanesvara Das
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/07/technology/07facebook.html?_r=1&src=me&ref
=technology
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Malya Butenas
Oct 12, 2010, 1:42:46 PM10/12/10
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| Haribol, Ups, typical me, I wrote the wrong address, Never mind, this was for Ganga. Can´t erase now... For others this is just some testing going on to see if it can work with this kind of network. So please don´t join it now. Ys Malyahari-kunda dasi --- Den tis 2010-10-12 skrev Malya Butenas <maly...@yahoo.se>:
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Lalita-sakhi MacMillan
Oct 12, 2010, 3:29:05 PM10/12/10
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No problem, Prabhu. But if it tests out okay, please do allow me to join. I'm following along with the current discussion but would appreciate a less confrontational forum.
Your servant,
Lalita-sakhi dasi
niscala dasi
Oct 12, 2010, 4:25:42 PM10/12/10
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It seems to me that whether we are in Ning or a google group like this
is not as important as defining WHY we are here. Is it to organize
interested people into practical action? If so, anyone who does not
intend to either start or join a VA community is out of place, and
will only talk about theory, leading to the numerous complaints about
endless theorizing.
Is it to find out what obstacles there are in setting up VA
communities? I thought that was the case with this forum, hence I
suggested that one big obstacle is lack of interested souls willing
to commit to practical action, so our discussion/theorizing should be
---how to attract devotees? Hence my endless debate with GKP who
seemed bent on stressing that sudras must be treated like slaves-
owned, traded, etc.- and to take the "love" out of cooperation... I
have no attraction for endless debate, but if a principle of
theorizing is, in my mind, an obstacle to achieving practical action,
then I am drawn into an endless debate I didnt count on.
Is the purpose something else? Such as quoting SP on what he intended
VA to be? That could have value, provided it serves the desire of SP
to set up VA communities. If we focus on those instructions which will
detract from this service, (such as turning working devotees into
slaves), then we achieve nothing but a useless waste of time.
On Oct 11, 4:00 am, Dhanesvara Das <integr8...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hare Krishna Dear Devotees,
>
> Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada.
> At the suggestion of one of our members I am exploring moving this
> discussion to Ning. So I ponied up $3 and got a one-month free trial
> (why does that cost $3? Go figure). But after working with it for a
> couple hours have really no idea how it is supposed to work, or what
> to do next. It was my impression that each writer could have his/her
> own blog linked from the main page, and other kinds of events, news,
> discussion could go on there as well. If any of you understand this
> better and want to help me get it set up I would be very grateful.
> Please email me privately. Thanks!
>
> Oh, if you want to have a look-see, go tohttp://varnashramaculture.ning.com/
is not as important as defining WHY we are here. Is it to organize
interested people into practical action? If so, anyone who does not
intend to either start or join a VA community is out of place, and
will only talk about theory, leading to the numerous complaints about
endless theorizing.
Is it to find out what obstacles there are in setting up VA
communities? I thought that was the case with this forum, hence I
suggested that one big obstacle is lack of interested souls willing
to commit to practical action, so our discussion/theorizing should be
---how to attract devotees? Hence my endless debate with GKP who
seemed bent on stressing that sudras must be treated like slaves-
owned, traded, etc.- and to take the "love" out of cooperation... I
have no attraction for endless debate, but if a principle of
theorizing is, in my mind, an obstacle to achieving practical action,
then I am drawn into an endless debate I didnt count on.
Is the purpose something else? Such as quoting SP on what he intended
VA to be? That could have value, provided it serves the desire of SP
to set up VA communities. If we focus on those instructions which will
detract from this service, (such as turning working devotees into
slaves), then we achieve nothing but a useless waste of time.
On Oct 11, 4:00 am, Dhanesvara Das <integr8...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hare Krishna Dear Devotees,
>
> Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada.
> At the suggestion of one of our members I am exploring moving this
> discussion to Ning. So I ponied up $3 and got a one-month free trial
> (why does that cost $3? Go figure). But after working with it for a
> couple hours have really no idea how it is supposed to work, or what
> to do next. It was my impression that each writer could have his/her
> own blog linked from the main page, and other kinds of events, news,
> discussion could go on there as well. If any of you understand this
> better and want to help me get it set up I would be very grateful.
> Please email me privately. Thanks!
>
niscala dasi
Oct 12, 2010, 4:31:54 PM10/12/10
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Dear devotees, please read below, and give your opinions as to why we
are here- that needs to be established first, then even if there is
confrontational debate, at least it is towards achieving a goal...
(I have added--- Is the purpose of this discussion simply to let
everyone voice their opinion? Then there is sure to be confrontation,
as opinions collide. But if it is not just about communication, but a
purpose to communicate, then confrontation will be clarifying,
creative...)
>>>It seems to me that whether we are in Ning or a google group like this is not as important as defining WHY we are here. Is it to organize interested people into practical action? If so, anyone who does not intend to either start or join a VA community is out of place, and will only talk about theory, leading to the numerous complaints about endless theorizing.
Is it to find out what obstacles there are in setting up VA
communities? I thought that was the case with this forum, hence I
suggested that one big obstacle is lack of interested souls willing
to commit to practical action----so our discussion/theorizing should
opinion? Then there is sure to be confrontation, as opinions collide.
But if it is not just about communication, but a purpose to
communicate, then confrontation will be clarifying, creative...
y.s Niscala
On Oct 13, 5:29 am, Lalita-sakhi MacMillan <sakhi.macmil...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> > > I suggest the new Facebook feature - groups.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
are here- that needs to be established first, then even if there is
confrontational debate, at least it is towards achieving a goal...
(I have added--- Is the purpose of this discussion simply to let
everyone voice their opinion? Then there is sure to be confrontation,
as opinions collide. But if it is not just about communication, but a
purpose to communicate, then confrontation will be clarifying,
creative...)
>>>It seems to me that whether we are in Ning or a google group like this is not as important as defining WHY we are here. Is it to organize interested people into practical action? If so, anyone who does not intend to either start or join a VA community is out of place, and will only talk about theory, leading to the numerous complaints about endless theorizing.
Is it to find out what obstacles there are in setting up VA
communities? I thought that was the case with this forum, hence I
suggested that one big obstacle is lack of interested souls willing
be ---how to attract devotees? Hence my endless debate with GKP who
seemed bent on stressing that sudras must be treated like slaves-
owned, traded, etc.- and to take the "love" out of cooperation...
I have no attraction for endless debate, but if a principle of
theorizing is, in my mind, an obstacle to achieving practical action,
then I am drawn into an endless debate I didnt count on.
Is the purpose something else? Such as quoting SP on what he intended
VA to be? That could have value, provided it serves the desire of SP
to set up VA communities. If we focus on those instructions which will
detract from this service, (such as turning working devotees into
slaves), then we achieve nothing but a useless waste of time.
Is the purpose of this discussion simply to let everyone voice their
seemed bent on stressing that sudras must be treated like slaves-
owned, traded, etc.- and to take the "love" out of cooperation...
I have no attraction for endless debate, but if a principle of
theorizing is, in my mind, an obstacle to achieving practical action,
then I am drawn into an endless debate I didnt count on.
Is the purpose something else? Such as quoting SP on what he intended
VA to be? That could have value, provided it serves the desire of SP
to set up VA communities. If we focus on those instructions which will
detract from this service, (such as turning working devotees into
slaves), then we achieve nothing but a useless waste of time.
opinion? Then there is sure to be confrontation, as opinions collide.
But if it is not just about communication, but a purpose to
communicate, then confrontation will be clarifying, creative...
y.s Niscala
On Oct 13, 5:29 am, Lalita-sakhi MacMillan <sakhi.macmil...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> No problem, Prabhu. But if it tests out okay, please do allow me to join.
> I'm following along with the current discussion but would appreciate a less
> confrontational forum.
>
> Your servant,
> Lalita-sakhi dasi
>
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 12:42 PM, Malya Butenas <malya...@yahoo.se> wrote:
> > Haribol,
>
> > Ups, typical me, I wrote the wrong address, Never mind, this was for Ganga.
> > Can´t erase now...
>
> > For others this is just some testing going on to see if it can work with
> > this kind of network.
> > So please don´t join it now.
>
> > Ys Malyahari-kunda dasi
>
> > --- Den *tis 2010-10-12 skrev Malya Butenas <malya...@yahoo.se>*:
> I'm following along with the current discussion but would appreciate a less
> confrontational forum.
>
> Your servant,
> Lalita-sakhi dasi
>
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 12:42 PM, Malya Butenas <malya...@yahoo.se> wrote:
> > Haribol,
>
> > Ups, typical me, I wrote the wrong address, Never mind, this was for Ganga.
> > Can´t erase now...
>
> > For others this is just some testing going on to see if it can work with
> > this kind of network.
> > So please don´t join it now.
>
> > Ys Malyahari-kunda dasi
>
>
> > Från: Malya Butenas <malya...@yahoo.se>
> > Ämne: new group
> > Till: varnashra...@googlegroups.com
> > Datum: tisdag 12 oktober 2010 19:29
>
> > http://varnashramaculture.socialgo.com/
>
> > we´re trying out this and Dhanesvara wants you onboard.
> > Secret code is varnashrama2010 (hope I spelled it right!)
> > It´s not ready yet so don´t invite others yet, or ask then Dhanesvara first
> > if there is someone you think should be there in this beginning-stage.
>
> > Ys Malyahari-kunda dasi
>
> > --- Den *mån 2010-10-11 skrev Ganga IDS <resul...@gmail.com>*:
> > Från: Malya Butenas <malya...@yahoo.se>
> > Ämne: new group
> > Till: varnashra...@googlegroups.com
> > Datum: tisdag 12 oktober 2010 19:29
>
> > http://varnashramaculture.socialgo.com/
>
> > we´re trying out this and Dhanesvara wants you onboard.
> > Secret code is varnashrama2010 (hope I spelled it right!)
> > It´s not ready yet so don´t invite others yet, or ask then Dhanesvara first
> > if there is someone you think should be there in this beginning-stage.
>
> > Ys Malyahari-kunda dasi
>
>
> > Från: Ganga IDS <resul...@gmail.com>
> > Ämne: Re: Ning?
> > Till: "Varnashrama Culture" <varnashra...@googlegroups.com>
> > Datum: måndag 11 oktober 2010 00:24
>
> > More on the groups feature:
>
> >http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/07/technology/07facebook.html?_r=1&src...
> > Från: Ganga IDS <resul...@gmail.com>
> > Ämne: Re: Ning?
> > Till: "Varnashrama Culture" <varnashra...@googlegroups.com>
> > Datum: måndag 11 oktober 2010 00:24
>
> > More on the groups feature:
>
> > > I suggest the new Facebook feature - groups.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Malya Butenas
Oct 12, 2010, 4:57:56 PM10/12/10
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| I just want to say that I´ve followed all the conversations with great interest and I think we all learned something (I learned a lot it feels like:). We are all living in some kind of society so somehow or other it is useful knowledge. Not everyone is into action maybe, or can´t be in too much action at the moment, but the knowledge of even those persons may be very valuable to others (and themselves one day or another). Is there anyone of us who just wants these things to exist in theory? Most of us (at least) probably wants action, but where to start? And how? But, yes, if one is not at all hoping to put theory into practise, then maybe it´s a waste of time? Inspired by the discussions in these group a few of us here in Almvik (Sweden) decided to start meeting on a regular basis (every second week we´ll try) and go through different aspects of Srila Prabhupada´s desire for the farm communities (such as ours). And our hope and intention is that it may lead to practical changes. Actually, the last few years we have had visits by a few different devotees (not many but still) who preached to us about self-sufficiency, cow-protection and also Dhanesvara has been here. This seems to have ignited quite some change. Suddenly everyone is into gardening and inspired to simplifie life. So from theory some practise has come about. By association with devotees who are inspired in this direction we will all benefit and progress faster in these respects. We´re all quite familiar with the concepts of varnashrama-dharma here around since Harikesa Swami was preaching it and trying to implement it. Maybe some are allergic to it, I don´t know, but I think differences are quite tolerated here. Some thinks too much tolerated maybe...:-) Your servant Malyahari-kunda dasi --- Den tis 2010-10-12 skrev niscala dasi <niscal...@yahoo.com.au>: |
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