Thank you cards sound like a very good idea to me.
I would welcome the opportunity to be involved in next year's forum in
any way that I can be helpful.
Shannon
thanks,
Shannon
There is not enough darkness in all the world to put out the light of even one small candle.
~Robert AldenThere is not enough darkness in all the world to put out the light of even one small candle.
~Robert AldenMarie...did you want to speak to this sister? :-)
Shannon
There is not enough darkness in all the world to put out the light of even one small candle.
~Robert AldenShannon
On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 3:25 AM, Kay Lamothe
<kathleen....@gmail.com> wrote:
There is not enough darkness in all the world to put out the light of even one small candle.
~Robert AldenThere is not enough darkness in all the world to put out the light of even one small candle.
~Robert AldenI'm going to bail on this b/c it's not yet firmed up and I have an
offer for plans on Sunday that I don't want to say no to if this
debrief meeting won't be happening. If it goes ahead, I hope it's a
great success and I am still interested in helping out with next
year's forum or whatever else might be in the works.
solidarity,
Shannon
There is not enough darkness in all the world to put out the light of even one small candle.
~Robert Aldencheers,
Shannon
There is not enough darkness in all the world to put out the light of even one small candle.
~Robert AldenI find this very bewildering. I understand that procedurally, TAS
may need to have an Exec. meeting in order to formalize a payment to
VTF or Rhodes, but beyond that I am not really getting this.
Marie and/or TAS officers on this list, could you please speak to this
issue?
From my perspective, TAS obtained what was basically a windfall of
cash that was intended to be used in support of trans people. Prior to
the Beyer event, I asked Marie if TAS would be prepared to direct the
proceeds of the event to helping cover the security bill and she
responded positively that TAS would wish to help. There was no sense
of how much those proceeds would be, but then at the event Marie
confirmed to all in attendance that the proceeds from that event were
up near the $400 mark. That means it's a large enough sum to cover
the entire security bill that was issued to Rhodes. I cannot think of
any more appropriate item for TAS to spend that money on. Frankly, I
see it as community money not TAS money. If things will roll like
this, I will certainly agitate to ensure that in future, orgs like
BCGEU or Egale Canada direct their money from events like the Beyer
talk to VTF, not to TAS. I suspect there are people on this list who
would join in that cause.
From my own perspective, to leave this situation as one where you
Corey, and/or other collective members are effectively being asked to
cover that security bill from our own pockets while TAS banks the
proceeds from the Beyer event is outrageous and unacceptable.
Is there a misunderstanding here? I certainly hope so.
Geez Louise....
Shannon
Thanks Corey.
Geez Louise....
Shannon
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Could I ask a big favour? Could you please send me a copy of the TAS
Constitution and advise as to the anticipated date for the AGM?
cheers,
Shannon
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S.
Shannon
Shannon
On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 4:18 PM, Gwenneth Athena Katsaris
<gwennet...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Last AGM was April and next meeting is tomorrow ... Go for it
Shannon
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I don't think rhetorical questions require a reply. I'll just mention
that Egale Canada changed its name from the acronym EGALE about 10
years ago now in order to be more inclusive of trans and bi folks.
Just FYI for future communications in your capacity as a rep of the
trans community. I get irritated when I see someone write EGALE. But
that's me.
To me this is a complete no-brainer. The money was made on the
community's back basically, and putting it towards paying (or offering
to loan it for that purpose) an outstanding bill arising from an
outstanding community event that has thus far left our gracious hosts
at Rhodes stiffed for a security bill makes complete sense to
prioritize and it also gets the matter off Corey's plate, where we
have all left it sitting for months now.. But it's obviously not my
decision and I'll back off from further engagement in light of Kay's
message. I'll just say that there has been lots of time to fundraise
for a "xmas" (or seasonal for us non-christians) party and my
impression is that absent this windfall, TAS wasn't going to have or
raise coin for a xmas party, so my heartstrings just aren't feeling
very tugged here.
I'm out now and off-list but I remain eager to work on future issues
and projects, though perhaps in a different institutional context and
with different players. I'm also grouchy today. That probably shows.
Best y'all,
Shannon
"Egale Caada changed its name from the acronym EGALE about 10
years ago now in order to be more inclusive of trans and bi folks"
Thanks for the update, Shannon, perhaps you should address it to Holly Page,
though. Since most days I no longer have the use of my left hand - even to
use the shift key, I no longer type most messages - I cut and paste from
handy documents on my hard drive - in this case an Email from Holly.
"The money was made on the community's back basically"
Oh? Which community is that? On the backs of usually means on the labour
of. Who built the meeting? Who went to the Labour Council to appeal for
member unions to endorse it or contribute money? Who printed the leaflets
and posters for delegates to take away? Who got the poster - which I made,
foolishly thinking that Egale would come out with a better one soon, posted
in the CUPW office and in the Vancouver Mail Processing Plant? Egale? VTF?
No, me - ie. TAS
"off Corey's plate, where we have all left it sitting for months now."
And that is the point, I made it clear (I thought) that TAS would stand in
for it�s share of the costs, right at the beginning. Where are the others?
"I'll just say that there has been lots of time to fundraise
for a "xmas" (or seasonal for us non-christians) party and my
impression is that absent this windfall, TAS wasn't going to have or
raise coin for a xmas party, so my heartstrings just aren't feeling
very tugged here."
I use the X mas as opposed to �christmas� precisely because I am not a
christian either - probably more so than you,. having dumped that before you
were born. X is a mathematical symbol for a variable and �mas� is short for
�mass� - a term that predates christianity despite it�s use by the catholic
church.
In any case, timing is a big part of budgeting. This �windfall(?!)� - let�s
ignore the part that TAS had in organizing and promoting it - became part of
our budgeting for the xmas party. Especially in view of the expressed desire
of our partners in this that at least part of the proceeds go to this event,
shall I tell Raigen to contact you about volunteering for fundraising for
the party?
"I'm out now and off-list but I remain eager to work on future issues
and projects, though perhaps in a different institutional context and
with different players."
Feel free to run for the chair of TAS in the spring. It is unlikely that I
will run against you - most likely I will be in hospital either for my
spinal surgery or for my leaking heart valve. Just do me one favour, put
your phone number on the website as I did and help the people who call.
There is not enough darkness in all the world to put out the light of even one small candle.
~Robert AldenThere is not enough darkness in all the world to put out the light of even one small candle.
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