Re: Can Justice Minister extradite Marc Emery?
klunk
problems... thanks for the article... ;-)
"Karen Gordon" <ar...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA> wrote in message
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> (K): Gonna be interesting if Harper's government decides to extradite Marc
> Emery - for selling marijuana seeds to Americans - if it 'has no power to
> interfere' in an extradition ruling by a lower court..... as it is now
> claiming in Karlheinz Schreiber's case.
> ___________________________
>
> Marc Emery and the Canada/US Extradition Treaty
>
> Marc Emery is in the paper again today. For those whove been living under
> a rock for the last week, Marc Emery is the BC marijuana activist recently
> indicted by Grand Jury in the United States, and then arrested in Canada
> by our very own RCMP. Emery stands accused of trafficking in marijuana
> seeds by mail in the United States (and he freely admits mailing seeds to
> US customers).
>
> Whatever your views on marijuana, this is going to be a watershed case.
> It will be as important to the legalization movement as the first grants
> of legal rights to gay people were. Depending on how this case goes,
> marijuana legalization in Canada may gain steam.
>
> Why do I make this claim? The Canada/US extradition treaty provides for
> the extradition of criminals and suspected criminals in either country, to
> the other, when the act committed is a crime in both countries. However,
> Article IV of the treaty provides for a set of specific circumstances
> where extradition may be denied:
>
> (1) Extradition shall not be granted in any of the following
> circumstances:
>
> (i) When the person whose surrender is sought is being proceeded
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> against, or has been tried and discharged or punished in the territory of
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> the requested State for the offense for which his extradition is
> requested.
>
> (ii) When the prosecution for the offense has become barred by lapse
> of time according to the laws of the requesting State.
>
> (iii) When the offense in respect of which extradition is requested is
> of a political character, or the person whose extradition is requested
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> proves that the extradition request has been made for the purpose of
> trying or punishing him for an offense of the above-mentioned character.
> If any question arises as to whether a case comes within the provisions of
> this subparagraph, the authorities of the Government on which the
> requisition is made shall decide.
>
> You can already see how Emery's defence is shaping up.
>
> In the August 5th edition of the Vancouver Sun he said that he gives away
> nearly all of the profits from the business to marijuana legalization
> campaigns worldwide. Recently, for instance, he donated $50,000 to
> campaigns in Nevada and Alaska. "Thats why Im being targeted", says
> Emery.
>
> He compares himself to Ghandi and King. A little over the top, but
> clearly he wants to be seen as a political figure, and not a lawbreaker.
> He pays income tax on the profits to the Canadian Government apparently
> $380,000 over the last four years. He claims that the Canada Revenue
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> Agency is fully aware of the source of this income as well. "The federal
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> government was aware, because I told them," he said. "They said to me,
> You're the only guy thats ever admitted that. The federal government is
> more complicit than I am by far."
>
> His business was raided in 1997, but no charges ever laid.
>
> His defence lawyers will argue that:
>
> 1. De facto, trafficking in seeds is not a crime in Canada. Although
> there
> is a law on the books, it hasnt been enforced since 1967, and certainly
> the Federal Government has been aware of Emerys activities since the
> mid-1990s and chosen not to act.
>
> 2. Emery's extradition request is a political act, rather than a valid
> extradition under the treaty. Some Americans, by the way, are already
> waking up to this possibility see this article in the Seattle
> Post-Intelligencer.
>
> Under the treaty, the person charged to ultimately authorize the decision
> to extradite is none other than Minister of Justice Irwin Cotler. He has
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> said he will not comment while the matter is before the BC courts. If,
> however, he accepts the argument that the sale of seeds in Canada is
> de-facto not a criminal act, then its hard to see how the government will
> stem the inevitable march to full legalization. I don't think there's
> much
> risk of that, though. Cotler will sign the extradition order, just as he
> did in the case of Renee Boje, where there was even less evidence.
>
> - Alec Saunders, August 2005
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> There is no act of treachery or mean-ness of which a political party is
> not capable; for in politics there is no honour. -- Benjamin Disraeli,
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"Karen Gordon" <ar...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA> wrote in message
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> (K): Gonna be interesting if Harper's government decides to extradite Marc
> Emery - for selling marijuana seeds to Americans - if it 'has no power to
> interfere' in an extradition ruling by a lower court..... as it is now
> claiming in Karlheinz Schreiber's case.
> ___________________________
>
I think these guys are losing a lot of votes on the Schreiber issue, they
look really shady. What kind of Federal government has to stand up and say
"We don't have the power." I mean, who believes that kind of stuff.
Greg Carr
one. Glibby Harper deserves to be rebuked for having Mulroney as an advisor.
Mulroney is now claiming he was poor and that is why he took 300k from
Schreiber and forgot to pay the taxes on it. Not surprising since he and
Michael Wilson ran up the largest deficit in history that he would also be
unable to handle his own finances. His wife was renowned for her shopping
sprees more so that nay PM wife in history. Since Brian was a drunk and
adulterer he had to buy furs, minks and other luxury items to keep his
marriage of convenience together.
Emery laundered drug money that is why he is going to Washington state. He
if convicted will get a minimum ten yrs. He is just another gangster. His
Marijuana party hq was destroyed by an unsolved arson in the DTES. He still
has street support even in Surrey as well as the DTES and East Van. Don
Briere another Marijuana party candidate was once busted with a quarter
million rounds of ammo. They are part of organized crime. What a greedhead.
If he had just kept to doing his illegal pot stuff in BC he wouldn't be
facing yrs in prison but he wanted the American market to buy himself luxury
goods. Briere has convictions for fraud and money laundering so I guess
Emery learned how to get busted while laundering money for the higher ups
from him.
Say No To Yuppie Gangs is a tag I once saw.
Speaking of tags the Onni owned bldng on 150St, Imperial Pines has some new
tags on it. Saw a gang member in the back parking lot tonight wearing a red
hat while the GRC were looking for a cpl of men who were involved in a
assault next door.
New flowers at the memorial to the ppl killed in the six person slaughter at
the high-rise. Feel free to light a candle. The mother of one of the victims
has gone public with what she says are lenient sentences to gang members
including that recently given to HAMC full patch Ronaldo Lising.
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klunk
"Greg Carr" <greg...@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
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> The Liberals paid Lyin' Brian 2.1 million so they can hardly crow over
> this one. Glibby Harper deserves to be rebuked for having Mulroney as an
> advisor. Mulroney is now claiming he was poor and that is why he took 300k
> from Schreiber and forgot to pay the taxes on it. Not surprising since he
> and Michael Wilson ran up the largest deficit in history that he would
> also be unable to handle his own finances. His wife was renowned for her
> shopping sprees more so that nay PM wife in history. Since Brian was a
> drunk and adulterer he had to buy furs, minks and other luxury items to
> keep his marriage of convenience together.
>
> Emery laundered drug money that is why he is going to Washington state.
well grog... here's yet another lie of yours... he's not facing any such
charges... he's being requested extradition for his political activities
because he's pissed off the us dea for supporting legalization movements in
the states...
Canuck57
> "Greg Carr" (greg...@yahoo.ca) writes:
>> The Liberals paid Lyin' Brian 2.1 million so they can hardly crow over
>> this
>> one. Glibby Harper deserves to be rebuked for having Mulroney as an
>> advisor.
>> Mulroney is now claiming he was poor and that is why he took 300k from
>> Schreiber and forgot to pay the taxes on it. Not surprising since he and
>> Michael Wilson ran up the largest deficit in history that he would also
>> be
>> unable to handle his own finances. His wife was renowned for her shopping
>> sprees more so that nay PM wife in history. Since Brian was a drunk and
>> adulterer he had to buy furs, minks and other luxury items to keep his
>> marriage of convenience together.
>
> dealer
> because Mila Mulroney spent their money on luxuries and made them 'poor'?
Who knows, maybe the liberals paid him hush money. Mulroney after all was
an insider.
Greg Carr
Brian is a greedhead who took a bribe. Hopefully he and Schrieber will end
up in the same cell block.
In an extraordinary display of a gutsy, high-stakes public relations
campaign to portray his besieged boss as a sympathetic figure, Mulroney
spokesman Luc Lavoie is weaving a tale of woe about Mulroney's financial
struggles after he left office in 1993.
That's the same year that Mulroney took $300,000 in cash from Karlheinz
Schreiber, a German-Canadian businessman. Schreiber alleges he struck a deal
while Mulroney was still in office to pay the money after he quit politics.
Those claims will be at the heart of a full public inquiry ordered last week
by Prime Minister Stephen Harper into the controversial deal.
Mulroney realized he made a "colossal mistake" in accepting the money from
Schreiber, Lavoie said in an interview with CanWest News Service published
yesterday.
Lavoie said the money was a $100,000-a-year retainer to Mulroney for
consulting on a military vehicle plant in Montreal and a pasta business.
Lavoie went on to say Mulroney tells people in private that "this is the
silliest thing he's ever done."
Almost everyone can agree with Mulroney - up to that point.
But it's when Lavoie, who seldom speaks without first clearing his words
with "the boss," goes on to insist that Mulroney needed money, that he was
broke and that any money he had saved before entering politics in 1983 was
long gone by 1993, that doubts surface.
"When he left, he had no money," Lavoie claimed, suggesting Mulroney was
"worried about how the future would unfold." His family, including his wife
Mila, expected "the type of lifestyle they had prior to (Mulroney) joining
politics, which is something he probably promised them."
So, how broke was Mulroney?
Well, he had enough money to be able to buy a mansion at 47 Forden Cres. in
upper Westmount, the richest part of the richest Montreal neighbourhood, for
$1.675 million. And then he and Mila proceeded to spend at least $700,000
fixing up the home, which includes an indoor swimming pool.
While prime minister, he collected a hefty salary and lots of
taxpayer-financed perks. (Harper, for example, is paid about $290,000 a
year). From 1984 to 1993, Mulroney and his family lived at 24 Sussex Dr.,
the official residence of the prime minister. In addition, they had free use
of the summer residence at Harrington Lake.
And when he moved out of those residences, the federal government paid
Mulroney $150,000 for furniture he left behind. That included charges for
built-in closets and wallpaper. At the time, some people wondered why
Canadian taxpayers paid for a closet. Did Mulroney plan to take it to
Westmount? The bill came despite the fact that the Conservative party had
spent hundreds of thousands of dollars decorating and furnishing Mulroney's
official homes while he was in office.
To top it off, the "broke" Mulroney managed to find a job within days of
stepping down as prime minister, returning to one of his old employers, the
Montreal law firm of Ogilvy Renault. The salary wasn't disclosed, but you
can bet it meant he was no longer poor.
What's behind this tale of woe?
Is Mulroney sending Lavoie out to win him public sympathy before the inquiry
starts and to suggest one reason for his "colossal error" was that he was
cash poor?
If that's the case, then Mulroney should give Canadians the full story about
his financial plight.
That's because few of us would believe that a man who seemed to live so well
in a huge home could, in fact, have had "no money."
http://www.thestar.com/comment/article/278762
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again and walked the earth. We are awaiting the Third Coming aka The Day Of
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Sheep are extremely fluffy.
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"Canuck57" <dave-n...@unixhome.net> wrote in message
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Peter Grant
> >> (K): Are you saying Brian Mulroney took kickbacks from a German arms
> >> dealer
> >> because Mila Mulroney spent their money on luxuries and made them 'poor'?
>
> > Who knows, maybe the liberals paid him hush money. Mulroney after all was
> > an insider.
>
> war-loving U.S. presidents, maybe. But I sure as hell don't see him in
> bed with the Liberals - who blew him out of office with huge losses in the
> House.
>
> As soon as the asshole lost his PM's seat, he promptly started taking
> director positions on a myriad of corporations - in Canada and outside of
> Canada. He loved the lavish lifestyle - like Conrad Black - and nothing
> was going to stand in his way to live it. Who woudda thought he'd resort
> to selling off taxpayer-paid furniture at 24 Sussex Drive?
>
Well, there is always the story of why the coal fired power electricity plant
in Cape Breton gets it's coal from South Africa, shipped in by Canada Steam
Ship Lines. And they closed down the coal mines in Cape Breton a long time
ago.
Don't toss rocks whilst living in a glass cage.
Greg Carr
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Read and obey the Bible. Yu'shua died on the cross for our sins, He rose
again and walked the earth. We are awaiting the Third Coming aka The Day Of
Judgment.
Sheep are extremely fluffy.
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