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JenVNLLC

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Dec 2, 2009, 6:45:54 PM12/2/09
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Hi Khalid,

I thought I would pass along a couple of things regarding the subject
of wisdom that you may find helpful. There are several points in
Verna's book, "The Knowledge Evolution" in which wisdom is addressed
as part of the "knowledge archetype." Chapter Four, titled "Seeing
Patterns of Knowledge, Learning and Performance" goes into detail.

Chapter Three also talks about maps in relation to these concepts as
well. In fact, there are diagrams to view within the Knowledge
Management Library on Verna's website: www.vernaallee.com. There are
visual maps there that really go into the Knowledge Archetype concept
(scroll to the bottom of the page for the links).

Khaled Islaih

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Thanks for sharing wisdom suggestions.

In my posting on wisdom, I tried to make bridges between culture, technology and social science by using non- wersten approach. I think we should creatively integrate the influence of the accelerated cultural turn in our lives and our world into our understanding for technology (and science). It will help us use culture to enhance the positive impact of technology on humanity. Western cultural representations of technology and science are  usually focused on business and power maximization. This is not healthy for humanity. The new worldview should focus on "MORE humanity LESS business".  

In today's multicultural world, culturally inclusive worldviews for technology and science are needed to enable our humanity in all parts of the world (East, West, South and North) reap the benefits of our scientific and technological evolution and save our planet. We need to promote new / old cultural meanings and representations for our human experiences (economy, geography, time,space, history, identity and otherness ) on this earth. This cultural openness will definitely enable us to accelerate the birth of the emerging wisdom based civilization around the world. 

Khaled


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Yes. Definitely. And we must all do what we can where we are to reach that goal some day. it's going to be a long journey ;-)

Cordialement,

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We live in the age of quantum convergence. History intersects with future. Culture intersects with technology. Traditional geographic understanding (sense of time and place)  is collapsing. Power and authority are shifting. Individuals and virtual crowds are the new globalizers. They are  transforming economic globalization created by governments and corporations into cultural globalization / human globalization. All these hidden revolutions will enable us to reach the new civilization faster.
 
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I wonder if humanity would gain from accepting the wisdom to use our cultural common denominator to tame our cultural diversity? Is it not one of the aims of globaliziation?

Kindly,
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Network thinking is enabling us to observe new patterns within  our human evolution (network, spatial and quantum) that will eventually enable us to reclaim humanity (past and future) in inclusive and sustainable ways.
 
Networked observation and interpretation  capacities (collective wisdom) will facilitate the emergence new realities and systems (new inclusive civilization).
 
 In fact, our networked consciousness in already changing the physical nature of the universe. please watch this:
 
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Hello everyone,
This to share the slides of my presentation at TESL Ontario 2009 conference (Language for A Changing World). The presentation is focused on enabling new linguistic awarness among language training professionals within the Canadian immigrant settlement sector to meet the new linguistic realities of  today's changing world.
 
More precisely, cultural globalization and ICT are creating new linguistic landscapes and dynamics around the world. The linguistic dynamics should be used to redefine (innovate new)  identities, places and communities to facilitate social cohesion and sustainability (enable new human civilization).
For more info. check the slides:
 
Feedback and comments are always appreciated
 
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David Meggitt

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Dec 17, 2009, 11:37:10 AM12/17/09
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Fascinating...

Someone also suggested to me that English contained a large proportion
of nouns as opposed to verbs.

This somehow reflects a propensity to be less rich in describing
feelings.

D

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Thanks David.
 
English has been used for many decades by linear thinkers (corporations, media, universities,  international organizations and politicians) to promote standard models within our lives and societies (schools, relationship, minds, politics, economies, families, organizations, communities..etc). In other words, English was used to promote illusive linear anthropological evolution as the only possibility for our civilized evolution. Linear thinkers used standard English combined with reductive metaphors to describe reality and promote a narrow materialistic consciousness around the world.
 
In the new century, we are finding that our human evolution is totally non-linear and revolutionary and our consciousness is deeper than the illusion materialistic structures around us.
 
I think speakers of only English will have hard time to relate to a growing metaphoric diversity in today's global society. They might need to start learning additional eastern languages to expand their linguistic landscape  and relate better to today's fluid realities. This might also liberate them from the illusive supremacy of English. 
 
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Khaled,

I'm a little mystified by the term "eastern languages". You sound like a 19th century Englishman.

Depending on where your definition of "the east"* starts, that could include Indo-European languages such as Urdu, Hindi, Pashto or Farsi; the Chinese conglomerate of "dialects"; Austronesian languages such as Malay & Javanese; the Dravidian languages of Southern India; Korean; Japanese or many others.

All of these languages are very different (Hindi/Urdu have much more in common with English than with Chinese) so I fail to see how lumping them together gets us anywhere. Languages do encode different concepts of the world but this process is far more subtle than you seem to realise. Speakers of English have seen the world in positivist, romantic, reductive and holistic ways.

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*Which is a Western conception of geography. China calls itself "The Middle Kingdom" - i.e. the centre of the world.

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Khaled,
 
In my experience as a French Canadian, there has been the Empire of English and the service of English.  The last century has mostly been the service of English.
A few years back I wrote:
 
"England has taken the best of Europe to the farthest extremities of the world and England has also dearly suffered to protect the world from the worst of Europe.
From Avalon to the return of the King of kings, the world monarchies have now received lessons of grand humility when needed and of humble grandeur to express the solemn beauty of being servants of the justice and of the peace that secures liberty.
Because of Great Britain, all languages of the earth are now offered a practical guide to self-governing, to live out the universal Faculty of being human.
Because of the Commomwealth and because of the entity of terror-anti-terror working at circling the earth under militarization, humanity is given the opportunity to end the repeat of history's worst memories and to restructure the distribution of wealth with integrity and equity.
Some Canadians are inviting her majesty, Queen Elizabeth, to join us in the company of the BBC and CBC, to preside over the gathering of the Permanent Pepople Summit to officialy launch: ...cleansing our vision of the Crown...", with the help of Mr. Obama, President of United States of America, of Benedict the 16th, head of Vatican and the Aboriginal Grand Chief of Canada.
As we progress to level with each other, we shall behold the rise of Britania and of Europe's inheritance, joining with the inheritance of all Americas, of Asia and of the Middle-East into humanity's harmonisation and completion of one another.
Let the multi-culture of humans rise, rooted in the glory of unity...YES into AMEN..."
 
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Hi Beniot,
 
We all should work for intercultural duologue and facilitation. Culture in the new century is rising and re-shaping  everything around us. Culture is reshaping economics, politics and businesses. I see this cultural transformation almost everywhere around here in Mississauga. I think Canada is a role model for the rest of the world in cultural adaptation and transformation.
 
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And we can be much more intentional when it comes to building culture.

Culture is a function of relatinships and relationships reflect the spoken

and unspoken agreements that guide behavior. We can shape the culture

by being more explicit about what our agreements are…it can be that

simple.

 

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Hi Matt,
 
Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I respect all languages and cultures including English (I am only against the historical usage of English).
 
Historically, English have been used to promote linguistic colonization and cultural hegemony and enabled cultural conflicts. Furthermore, it has  has been used by capitalist media to distort language landscapes in north and south and  facilitate market penetration and promote consumerism for capitalist interests. This media and marketing use of English has caused significant human, cultural and environmental losses for many societies and nations around the world.

 
Finally, I am trying to address and re-frame edgy cultural issues to facilitate new intercultural consciousness and enable new metalanguage to help us overcome cross-cultural and language barriers.
 
Thanks for your contributions,
Khaled
 

 
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Dear Khaled, I very much liked your comment posted Dec 17th. I agree
with you both about the value of drawing on multiple linguistic
traditions and also about the particular limitations of English when
dealing with a non-linear world.
My way of dealing with this when working with groups in English is
often to intentionally introduce some ambiguity to that participants
have no choice but to explore various implications and interpretations
and then mutually negotiate shared meaning within the context of the
moment.
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Khaled,
  While your history is unassailable, i have a real issue with one of your (many) unsupported assertions:  "speakers of only English will have hard time to relate to a growing metaphoric diversity in today's global society."  Is there a reason you ignore the contributions to chaos theory, network science, complexity, etc., made by English-speaking authors?   A short list:

Allee
Arquilla
Maxfield
McKelvey
Watts
Strogatz
Gleick
Kauffman
Lewin
Stacey
Waldrop
Ashby

  Yes, English is the language of colonization.  But your somewhat cartoonish treatment of "western" people grows tiresome.  We are not a lost tribe, we're on your side more often than you know.

Best,
jb

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Hi Khaled - I'm not sure where to start in responding to your post. Too many generalizations exist to even begin to unpack the ideas. Replace "English" with any other language...or with various religions...and the generalizations you make could likely also apply.

What is it that you wish to see changed with regard to English? It is, after all, only the third most prominent language in the world in terms of native speakers. Is your concern with capitalism? The west?  I feel that your underlying message needs to be challenged, but I'm having a hard time orienting myself toward a suitable point with which to engage you.

Broadly speaking: It seems to me that you are actually critiquing human nature (however you choose to define that) rather than language.

George


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Hi Matt,
 
Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I respect all languages and cultures including English (I am only against the historical usage of English).
 
Historically, English have been used to promote linguistic colonization and cultural hegemony and enabled cultural conflicts. Furthermore, it has  has been used by capitalist media to distort language landscapes in north and south and  facilitate market penetration and promote consumerism for capitalist interests. This media and marketing use of English has caused significant human, cultural and environmental losses for many societies and nations around the world.

 
Finally, I am trying to address and re-frame edgy cultural issues to facilitate new intercultural consciousness and enable new metalanguage to help us overcome cross-cultural and language barriers.
 
Thanks for your contributions,
Khaled
 

 
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This is great Stewart, to find ourselves in a different context and yet, in the same groove!
 
One of my fundamental thinking structures upon which rest my own, personal cultivation of culture, is found in the mind's and body's energy movement produced in the duality of History's State with its Dynamics.
 
From upon History's State comes the experience of Relatiing and from and its Dynamic comes Being Relative to or against one another's well being.
 
When I think in terms of the cultivation of relationship(s), I find that there are so many Relatives who do not Relate and there are so many who Relate but who cannot establish Relativity because of time, space and contexts that seperate and divide the human race according to our animal instincts.  
 
Shall the intelligence of higher education and well being rise up to prevail or will intelligence go on being forced into manipulating everything by the few who handle profit, only to serve the growing show-down of the pirate-military's polarisation of our cultivated past?
 
May the holidays drive us to settle in the victory of life's vitality all year around...
 
Benoit Couture
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Khaled

 

I am primarily an English speaker, married to a speaker of romance languages. I’ll be the first to say that there are many differences in logic and thinking that arise from cultural structures including linguistics. I also spent years working as an international business manager primarily in the Latin speaking world but also in many other regions including running a joint venture in China (experience in 46 countries worldwide). Based on these experiences I’d be hard pressed to agree with your assertions regarding the English language. I would however agree that the western worldviews can and has benefited from shifts in consciousness that embrace more holistic worldview traditions. This could be a long discussion for which I have little time but will offer a few salient points for consideration:

 

First, I would posit that while there may be peoples with unique language who tend toward peaceful coexistence history demonstrates that the tendency to colonize others by whatever means at their disposal has been part of human politics since ancient times and is probably not particular to linguistic structure.

 

Second, linear or better said rational thinking characteristics of the English language began not with English speakers but with the birth of philosophy and distinctions introduced by the Greeks. It’s not that the world up to that time was particularly moral or just but that is generally regarded as the first steps away from what had been a much more mythical but holistic worldviews. The Greek mind strove to discover a natural explanation for the cosmos by means of observation and reasoning, and these explanations soon began to shed the residual mythological components. The evolution and influence of Christian and Cartesian worldviews that followed would be a long entangled story (recommend Passion of the Western Mind by Richard Tarnas) and the result which is not specific to the English language would be that Western thought and its associated worldviews can be clearly differentiated from other traditions.

 

Third, I would then associate the discussion with “moral politics,” an application of cognitive science to politics. Here the work of people like George Lakoff point to primary differences based not on linguistics but worldwide which can vary considerably within a society. A good example is the primary differences between liberal and conservative worldview within many societies. Lakoff’s Moral Politics is a great read. If you are looking for substance to support an argument based in worldview you might turn to Richard E. Nisbett’s “The Geography of Thought.” His research which examines East Asians and the West led him to the conviction that two utterly different approaches to the world have maintained themselves for thousands of years. He is however specific to East Asians. And, while more holistic and contextual in thinking East Asians have nevertheless demonstrated the same colonizing traits as other societies.

Fourth, the dominance of the American film industry aside, if I were going to make a case about the particulars of English originated approaches in manipulating thought it would not be based in linguistics but in application of German originated psychology to American public relations. Here I would point to Edward Louis Bernays, an American pioneer in the field of public relations along with Ivy Lee. Combining the ideas of Gustave Le Bon and Wilfred Trotter on crowd psychology with the psychoanalytical ideas of his uncle, Sigmund Freud, Bernays was one of the first to attempt to manipulate public opinion using the subconscious. He felt this manipulation was necessary in society, which he regarded as irrational and dangerous as a result of the 'herd instinct.' I would also highly recommend Adam Curtis's award-winning 2002 documentary for the BBC, The Century of the Self. The Century of the Self documented how Freud's discoveries concerning the unconscious led to Edward Bernays' development of public relations, the use of desire over need and self-actualization as a means of achieving economic growth and the political control of population.

When speaking of shifting worldview and its impacts on consciousness some would point to the integral thinking of Don Beck and Chris Cowan’s Spiral Dynamics, the originating theories of Clare W. Graves, or Ken Wilber who popularized these ideas. They posit that forced by life conditions, to adapt to their environment they construct new, more complex, conceptual models of the world that allow them to handle the new problems. Each new model includes and transcends all previous models and thus in maturing stages become more inclusive. I know that I could draw a huge philosophical argument with these “big idea” references so best to say that when it comes to the more specific discussion of language I would suggest the perspectives of David Hawkins’ in Power vs. Force where he provides excellent examples of how shifts in language relate to shifts in worldview and consciousness.  

 

Ken Vanosky

 

  

 


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HI Khaled

 

This has been a very interesting thread. Thank you for sharing your slides. I totally agree that we need a new linguistic awareness.

 

In my journey of learning Español, English, Deutsch, Italiano and Francais my awareness has expanded in fascinating ways. In this process I have learnt that language serves as a marvelous vehicle for the soul to learn and know different aspects of the human spirit. In order to learn a new language we have to become new again. This is why I am passionate about learning languages.

As we become fluent in other languages, our hearts embrace new ways of thinking and news ways of feeling and doing. Our power of creation becomes empowered.

 

I would be concerned to tag English (and any other language) in such a radical way (or generalizing  as George says).  Language is just a vehicle and an instrument for the Spirit to create reality. It is not the language the cause of colonization and cultural hegemony.

 

The challenges of an emerging civilization demands that we become fluent in the language of love, compassion, mutual understanding and collaboration. And even better at language of listening to each other.

This new language should eventually not even require words. Hopefully our collective awareness would become one day so expanded that we may be able to  communicate heart to heart, soul to soul, spirit to spirit. A language that can travel through the emerging networks at the speed and frequency of the Spirit.

 

For now… it seems that we have to struggle with the limitations (and beauty) of speech in the form of many languages. And definitely, we need a new linguistic awareness…

 

Mil gracias por compartir,

 

Victor Heredia

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Khaled Islaih

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 Hi George,
 
Again, I respect all languages and cultures. I am not trying to replace English or anything else. On the contrary, I am trying to enrich our human experiences regardless of our geographic location (West/East) by building bridges among cultures and making people aware of  their linguistic evolution and how it might be perceived within other cultural groups.  
 
In fact, I am only trying to share observations and reflections on the power of language in defining our worldviews and evolution. I am facinated by the outcomes of my ongoing research on this topic.
 
My attention is focused on English because English has been used for the last few centuries as the main linguistic space for human communications. English has  played a decisive role in shaping world economic system,  intellectual structures, geographic categorizations.
 
As for your remarks on critiquing human nature or language, I think we should  change our understanding for both. Indeed, language and human nature are now seen as forms of consciousness (with no separations). New discoveries in quantum physics and cultural neuroscience are revolutionizing all dimensions of our human nature (including language, spirit, body, mind...etc). In other words,  humans are becoming metahumans (non-liners and irrationals in the old linear terms).  Therefore, we should not keep our individual and collective metahumanity confined within outdated identity boxes.  
 
For example check this website:
 
 
"A genuine paradigm shift. While mainstream science remains materialist, a substantial number of scientists are supporting and developing a paradigm based on the primacy of consciousness.

Dr. Amit Goswami, Ph.D, a pioneer of this revolutionary new perspective within science shares with us his vision of the unlimited potential of consciousness as the ground of all being, and how this revelation can actually help us to live better"
 
Thank you very much for sharing your thoughts and remarks,
Khaled
 
 
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Dear Khaled and Stewart
I appreciate this topic, and would like to get deeper into it.
Would you suggest introductory readings to it?
I am especially interested in readings about:
- Khaled: how western languages shape linear thinking and eastern
languages shape holistic?
- Stewart: what examples of spoken and unspoken agreements can we have
to understand how they guide behavior? is it true that making these
agreements more explicit will enable reshaping the culture?

Bye. Best wishes for 2010!


On 19 dez, 20:37, "Stewart Levine" <resolutionwo...@msn.com> wrote:
> And we can be much more intentional when it comes to building culture.
>
> Culture is a function of relatinships and relationships reflect the spoken
>
> and unspoken agreements that guide behavior. We can shape the culture
>
> by being more explicit about what our agreements are…it can be that
>
> simple.
>
> Best to all for the Holidays!
>
> Stewart  
>

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>
> From: value-n...@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:value-n...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Khaled Islaih
> Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 5:14 PM
> To: value-n...@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: New Linguistic Awarness
>
> Hi Beniot,
>
> We all should work for intercultural duologue and facilitation. Culture in
> the new century is rising and re-shaping  everything around us. Culture is
> reshaping economics, politics and businesses. I see this cultural
> transformation almost everywhere around here in Mississauga. I think Canada
> is a role model for the rest of the world in cultural adaptation and
> transformation.
>
> Best,
>
> Khaled
>
> Khaled A. Islaih
>
> Community Developer, Freelance Writer and Intercultural Speaker
>
> Innovation - Collaboration - Transformation

> Email: i...@khaledislaih.com Web:www.khaledislaih.com
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> and LinkedIn <http://www.linkedin.com/in/khaledislaih>  
>
> Follow me on Twitter <http://twitter.com/kislaih>

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>
> From: Matt Moore <innotect...@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: New Linguistic Awarness
> To: value-n...@googlegroups.com
> Received: Thursday, December 17, 2009, 7:59 PM
>
> Khaled,
>
> I'm a little mystified by the term "eastern languages". You sound like a
> 19th century Englishman.
>
> Depending on where your definition of "the east"* starts, that could include
> Indo-European languages such as Urdu, Hindi, Pashto or Farsi; the Chinese
> conglomerate of "dialects"; Austronesian languages such as Malay & Javanese;
> the Dravidian languages of Southern India; Korean; Japanese or many others.
>
> All of these languages are very different (Hindi/Urdu have much more in
> common with English than with Chinese) so I fail to see how lumping them
> together gets us anywhere. Languages do encode different concepts of the
> world but this process is far more subtle than you seem to realise. Speakers
> of English have seen the world in positivist, romantic, reductive and
> holistic ways.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Matt
>
> *Which is a Western conception of geography. China calls itself "The Middle
> Kingdom" - i.e. the centre of the world.
>

> On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 12:44 PM, Khaled Islaih <kisl...@yahoo.com


>
> <http://ca.mc1124.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=kisl...@yahoo.com> > wrote:
>
> Thanks David.
>
> English has been used for many decades by linear thinkers (corporations,
> media, universities,  international organizations and politicians) to
> promote standard models within our lives and societies (schools,
> relationship, minds, politics, economies, families, organizations,
> communities..etc). In other words, English was used to promote illusive
> linear anthropological evolution as the only possibility for our civilized
> evolution. Linear thinkers used standard English combined with reductive
> metaphors to describe reality and promote a narrow materialistic
> consciousness around the world.
>
> In the new century, we are finding that our human evolution is totally
> non-linear and revolutionary and our consciousness is deeper than the
> illusion materialistic structures around us.
>
> I think speakers of only English will have hard time to relate to a growing
> metaphoric diversity in today's global society. They might need to start
> learning additional eastern languages to expand their linguistic landscape
> and relate better to today's fluid realities. This might also liberate them
> from the illusive supremacy of English.  
>
> Khaled
>
> Khaled A. Islaih
>
> Community Developer, Freelance Writer and Intercultural Speaker
>
> Innovation - Collaboration - Transformation

> Email: i...@khaledislaih.com
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> wrote:


>
> From: David Meggitt <m...@davidmeggitt.com
> <http://ca.mc1124.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=m...@davidmeggitt.com> >
> Subject: Re: New Lingusitic Awarness
> To: "Value Networks" <value-n...@googlegroups.com
> <http://ca.mc1124.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=value-netwo...@googlegroups.c
> om> >
> Date: Thursday, December 17, 2009, 6:37 PM
>
> Fascinating...
>
> Someone also suggested to me that English contained a large proportion
> of nouns as opposed to verbs.
>
> This somehow reflects a propensity to be less rich in describing
> feelings.
>
> D
>

> On Dec 17, 3:59 am, Khaled Islaih <kisl...@yahoo.com<http://us.mc587.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=kisl...@yahoo.com> > wrote:
> > Hello everyone,
> > This to share the slides of my presentation at TESL Ontario 2009
>
> conference (Language for A Changing World). The presentation is focused on
> enabling new linguistic awarness among language training professionals
> within the Canadian immigrant settlement sector to meet the new linguistic
> realities of  today's changing world.
>
> > More precisely, cultural globalization and ICT are creating new linguistic
>
> landscapes and dynamics around the world. The linguistic dynamics should be
> used to redefine (innovate new)  identities, places and communities to
> facilitate social cohesion and sustainability (enable new human
> civilization).> For more info. check the
>
> slides:http://www.slideshare.net/kislaih/re-imagining-linc
>
> > Feedback and comments are always appreciated
>
> > Best,
> > Khaled
>
> > Khaled A. Islaih
> > Community Developer, Freelance Writer and Intercultural Speaker
> > Innovation - Collaboration - Transformation
> > Email: i...@khaledislaih.com
>

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> > ________________________________
> > From: Khaled Islaih <kisl...@yahoo.com
>

> <http://us.mc587.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=kisl...@yahoo.com> >> To: value-n...@googlegroups.com
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> <http://us.mc587.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=value-netwo...@googlegroups.co
> m>> Sent: Thu, December 10, 2009 6:51:28 PM


> > Subject: Re: Khalid: Wisdom
>
> > Network thinking is enabling us to observe new patterns within  our human
>
> evolution (network, spatial and quantum) that will eventually enable us to
> reclaim humanity (past and future) in inclusive and sustainable ways.
>
> > Networked observation and interpretation  capacities (collective wisdom)
>
> will facilitate the emergence new realities and systems (new inclusive
> civilization).
>
> >  In fact, our networked consciousness in already changing the physical
>
> nature of the universe. please watch
> this:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3_FBisoKD8
>
> > Khaled A. Islaih
> > Community Developer, Freelance Writer and Intercultural Speaker
> > Innovation - Collaboration - Transformation
> > Email: i...@khaledislaih.com
>

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> > --- On Tue, 12/8/09, Benoit Couture <benoit...@yahoo.com

> <http://us.mc587.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=benoit...@yahoo.com> >> >Subject: Re: Khalid: Wisdom
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>
> <http://us.mc587.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=value-netwo...@googlegroups.co
> m>> >Date: Tuesday, December 8, 2009, 4:13 PM


>
> > >I wonder if humanity would gain from accepting the wisdom to use our
>
> cultural common denominator to tame our cultural diversity?  Is it not one
> of the aims of globaliziation?
>
> > >Kindly,
> > >Benoit Couture
> > >Edmonto, Canada
>
> > >--- On Mon, 12/7/09, Martin R. Dugage <mar...@mopsos.com

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> m> >> >> Received: Monday, December 7, 2009, 11:53 AM
> > >> Yes. Definitely. And we must all
> > >> do what we can where we are to reach that goal some day.
> > >> it's going to be a long journey ;-)
>
> > >> Cordialement,
> > >> Martin R. DUGAGE
>
> > >> Le 3 déc. 2009 à 05:02, Khaled Islaih <kisl...@yahoo.com
>

> <http://us.mc587.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=kisl...@yahoo.com> >> >> a écrit :

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> m> >> >> Date: Thursday, December 3, 2009, 1:45 AM
>
> > >> Hi Khalid,
>
> > >> I thought I would pass along a couple of things regarding
> > >> the subject
> > >> of wisdom that you may find helpful. There are several
> > >> points in
> > >> Verna's book, "The Knowledge Evolution" in
> > >> which wisdom is addressed
> > >> as part of the "knowledge archetype." Chapter
> > >> Four, titled "Seeing
> > >> Patterns of Knowledge, Learning and Performance" goes
> > >> into detail.
>
> > >> Chapter Three also talks about maps in relation to these
> > >> concepts as
> > >> well. In fact, there are diagrams to view within the
> > >> Knowledge
> > >> Management Library on Verna's website:www.vernaallee.com
>

> <http://www.vernaallee.com/> .> >> There are


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> > >> Archetype concept
> > >> (scroll to the bottom of the page for the links).
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Hi John,
 
Thanks for being on my side. In this group,  our diversity is our strength. It enables us to learn more and understand better. This always encourages me to share  views openly with my globish English to enrich our learning and I trust that people will have cultural capacity to tolerate critical reflections and observations.
 
As for my remarks on speakers of English and their ability to relate to today's fluid reality, I was referring to ordinary speakers (people in the street) not thought leaders.
 
Non-linearity is not a western innovation, In fact, it has been around for many thousands of years. check this presentation to learn more:
 
 
Happy holidays,
Khaled
 


 
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Following Stewart, let me add "We can shape the culture by being more
explicit about what" the things we are talking about, i.e. about the
definitions, and, then, about what we agreed on and why.

Best wishes to all for these Holidays!

- Michael Poulin


On Dec 19, 10:37 pm, "Stewart Levine" <resolutionwo...@msn.com> wrote:
> And we can be much more intentional when it comes to building culture.
>
> Culture is a function of relatinships and relationships reflect the spoken
>
> and unspoken agreements that guide behavior. We can shape the culture
>
> by being more explicit about what our agreements are…it can be that
>
> simple.
>
> Best to all for the Holidays!
>
> Stewart  
>

> cid:image002....@01CA7ABA.6454DF70


>
> From: value-n...@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:value-n...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Khaled Islaih
> Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 5:14 PM
> To: value-n...@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: New Linguistic Awarness
>
> Hi Beniot,
>
> We all should work for intercultural duologue and facilitation. Culture in
> the new century is rising and re-shaping  everything around us. Culture is
> reshaping economics, politics and businesses. I see this cultural
> transformation almost everywhere around here in Mississauga. I think Canada
> is a role model for the rest of the world in cultural adaptation and
> transformation.
>
> Best,
>
> Khaled
>
> Khaled A. Islaih
>
> Community Developer, Freelance Writer and Intercultural Speaker
>
> Innovation - Collaboration - Transformation

> --- On Thu, 12/17/09, Matt Moore <innotect...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> From: Matt Moore <innotect...@gmail.com>

> Subject: Re: New Linguistic Awarness
> To: value-n...@googlegroups.com
> Received: Thursday, December 17, 2009, 7:59 PM
>
> Khaled,
>
> I'm a little mystified by the term "eastern languages". You sound like a
> 19th century Englishman.
>
> Depending on where your definition of "the east"* starts, that could include
> Indo-European languages such as Urdu, Hindi, Pashto or Farsi; the Chinese
> conglomerate of "dialects"; Austronesian languages such as Malay & Javanese;
> the Dravidian languages of Southern India; Korean; Japanese or many others.
>
> All of these languages are very different (Hindi/Urdu have much more in
> common with English than with Chinese) so I fail to see how lumping them
> together gets us anywhere. Languages do encode different concepts of the
> world but this process is far more subtle than you seem to realise. Speakers
> of English have seen the world in positivist, romantic, reductive and
> holistic ways.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Matt
>
> *Which is a Western conception of geography. China calls itself "The Middle
> Kingdom" - i.e. the centre of the world.
>

> On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 12:44 PM, Khaled Islaih <kisl...@yahoo.com


>
> <http://ca.mc1124.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=kisl...@yahoo.com> > wrote:
>
> Thanks David.
>
> English has been used for many decades by linear thinkers (corporations,
> media, universities,  international organizations and politicians) to
> promote standard models within our lives and societies (schools,
> relationship, minds, politics, economies, families, organizations,
> communities..etc). In other words, English was used to promote illusive
> linear anthropological evolution as the only possibility for our civilized
> evolution. Linear thinkers used standard English combined with reductive
> metaphors to describe reality and promote a narrow materialistic
> consciousness around the world.
>
> In the new century, we are finding that our human evolution is totally
> non-linear and revolutionary and our consciousness is deeper than the
> illusion materialistic structures around us.
>
> I think speakers of only English will have hard time to relate to a growing
> metaphoric diversity in today's global society. They might need to start
> learning additional eastern languages to expand their linguistic landscape
> and relate better to today's fluid realities. This might also liberate them
> from the illusive supremacy of English.  
>
> Khaled
>
> Khaled A. Islaih
>
> Community Developer, Freelance Writer and Intercultural Speaker
>
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> Blog:  <http://www.khaledislaih.blogspot.com/>  Community Conversations
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> Subject: Re: New Lingusitic Awarness
> To: "Value Networks" <value-n...@googlegroups.com
> <http://ca.mc1124.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=value-netwo...@googlegroups.c
> om> >
> Date: Thursday, December 17, 2009, 6:37 PM
>
> Fascinating...
>
> Someone also suggested to me that English contained a large proportion
> of nouns as opposed to verbs.
>
> This somehow reflects a propensity to be less rich in describing
> feelings.
>
> D
>

> On Dec 17, 3:59 am, Khaled Islaih <kisl...@yahoo.com<http://us.mc587.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=kisl...@yahoo.com> > wrote:
> > Hello everyone,
> > This to share the slides of my presentation at TESL Ontario 2009
>
> conference (Language for A Changing World). The presentation is focused on
> enabling new linguistic awarness among language training professionals
> within the Canadian immigrant settlement sector to meet the new linguistic
> realities of  today's changing world.
>
> > More precisely, cultural globalization and ICT are creating new linguistic
>
> landscapes and dynamics around the world. The linguistic dynamics should be
> used to redefine (innovate new)  identities, places and communities to
> facilitate social cohesion and sustainability (enable new human
> civilization).> For more info. check the
>
> slides:http://www.slideshare.net/kislaih/re-imagining-linc
>
> > Feedback and comments are always appreciated
>
> > Best,
> > Khaled
>
> > Khaled A. Islaih
> > Community Developer, Freelance Writer and Intercultural Speaker
> > Innovation - Collaboration - Transformation
> > Email: i...@khaledislaih.com
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> > From: Khaled Islaih <kisl...@yahoo.com
>

> m>> Sent: Thu, December 10, 2009 6:51:28 PM


> > Subject: Re: Khalid: Wisdom
>
> > Network thinking is enabling us to observe new patterns within  our human
>
> evolution (network, spatial and quantum) that will eventually enable us to
> reclaim humanity (past and future) in inclusive and sustainable ways.
>
> > Networked observation and interpretation  capacities (collective wisdom)
>
> will facilitate the emergence new realities and systems (new inclusive
> civilization).
>
> >  In fact, our networked consciousness in already changing the physical
>
> nature of the universe. please watch
> this:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3_FBisoKD8
>
> > Khaled A. Islaih
> > Community Developer, Freelance Writer and Intercultural Speaker
> > Innovation - Collaboration - Transformation
> > Email: i...@khaledislaih.com
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> > --- On Tue, 12/8/09, Benoit Couture <benoit...@yahoo.com

> <http://us.mc587.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=benoit...@yahoo.com> >> >Subject: Re: Khalid: Wisdom
> > >To: value-n...@googlegroups.com
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> <http://us.mc587.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=value-netwo...@googlegroups.co
> m>> >Date: Tuesday, December 8, 2009, 4:13 PM


>
> > >I wonder if humanity would gain from accepting the wisdom to use our
>
> cultural common denominator to tame our cultural diversity?  Is it not one
> of the aims of globaliziation?
>
> > >Kindly,
> > >Benoit Couture
> > >Edmonto, Canada
>
> > >--- On Mon, 12/7/09, Martin R. Dugage <mar...@mopsos.com

> <http://us.mc587.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=mar...@mopsos.com> >> >> Subject: Re: Khalid: Wisdom
> > >> To: "value-n...@googlegroups.com
>

> m> >> >> Received: Monday, December 7, 2009, 11:53 AM
> > >> Yes. Definitely. And we must all
> > >> do what we can where we are to reach that goal some day.
> > >> it's going to be a long journey ;-)
>
> > >> Cordialement,
> > >> Martin R. DUGAGE
>
> > >> Le 3 déc. 2009 à 05:02, Khaled Islaih <kisl...@yahoo.com
>

> <http://us.mc587.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=kisl...@yahoo.com> >> >> a écrit :

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> m> >> >> Date: Thursday, December 3, 2009, 1:45 AM
>
> > >> Hi Khalid,
>
> > >> I thought I would pass along a couple of things regarding
> > >> the subject
> > >> of wisdom that you may find helpful. There are several
> > >> points in
> > >> Verna's book, "The Knowledge Evolution" in
> > >> which wisdom is addressed
> > >> as part of the "knowledge archetype." Chapter
> > >> Four, titled "Seeing
> > >> Patterns of Knowledge, Learning and Performance" goes
> > >> into detail.
>
> > >> Chapter Three also talks about maps in relation to these
> > >> concepts as
> > >> well. In fact, there are diagrams to view within the
> > >> Knowledge
> > >> Management Library on Verna's website:www.vernaallee.com
>

> <http://www.vernaallee.com/> .> >> There are


> > >> visual maps there that really go into the Knowledge
> > >> Archetype concept
> > >> (scroll to the bottom of the page for the links).
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WARNING: Some people might find the following post offensive - esp. Khaled.

Khaled,

You post a lot to this list. In reading your posts, I have formed 2 hypotheses about you:

1. You care passionately about making the world a better place. You believe that humanity's collective future lies in us embracing our own diversity. I share that passion and that belief.

2. You post about things you have very little knowledge (e.g. linguistics, quantum physics, neuroscience). So little knowledge, in fact, you are unaware of your own ignorance (this is known as the Dunning-Kruger effect BTW). I know a little about these things - enough to realise my own ignorance and enough to spot people that don't.

I would suggest that before you post a sweeping generalisation, you actually research the field you are posting about. Just a bit. Just enough to develop a little epistemological humility. I don't expect that my advice will change your behaviour (I am not that naive) but I am saying it anyway.

And I am posting this to the whole list because Khaled is not the only Dunning-Kruger offender. Benoit tends to do this a lot. And others on the list fall for the temptation of sweeping generalisations (I myself am not immune).

The things I value most on the value networks list are posts that dig deep into the difficulties of systemic change from a value network perspective. Don't tell me how the world is wrong, tell me how you are changing it. Just my 2 cents.

Cheers,

Matt

Khaled Islaih

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Hi Ken,
 
Thanks for sharing your insights and extended feedback. 
 
I believe that the combination between language and technology is creating new type of metalanguage (or  quantum language, Information Economy Metalanguage or any other wording to describe the power of language in today's consciousness based world). Language is the real technology. It is the technology of  consciousness. I think the true linguistic consciouness should enable us to connect, undrstand better, enhance our relationships to everything around us and reduce our planetory imbalances and conflicts.
 
The new Information Economy Metalanguage enables us to access our infinite semantic space and may be restructure our individual or collective  spatial positions. At the same time, it allows us to overcome cross-culture and language barriers.  This conversation demonstrates the power and accessibility of this new metalanguage.
 
 For  more info on this new language check this study:
 
"From Social Computing to Reflexive Collective Intelligence

The IEML research program promotes a radical innovation in the notation and processing of semantics. IEML (Information Economy Metalanguage) is a regular language that provides new methods for semantic interoperability, semantic navigation, collective categorization and self-referential collective intelligence. This research program is compatible with the major standards of the Web of data and is in tune with the current trends in social computing.

The paper explains the philosophical relevance of this new language, expounds its syntactic and semantic structures and ponders its possible implications for the growth of collective intelligence in cyberspace.

This paper is a fusion of two publications in scientific journals:

"The IEML Research Program. From Social Computing to Reflexive Collective Intelligence", Information Sciences, special issue on collective intelligence, ed Epaminondas Kapetanios & Georgia Koutrika, vol 180, issue 1, Elsevier, Amsterdam, 2 Jan 2010, p. 71-94

This paper can be found for free here."

 
 

All the best for 2010,

Khaled

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Hi Matt,
 
Thanks for your bold feedback and unrealistic criticisms. I never claimed to be an authorized expert on any of the topics that you mentioned (linguistics, neuroscience and quantum theory).
 
However, I am proactive informal learner and firm believer in the power of cultural /social  learning and  democracy of knowledge. I don't have to be a university professor to share an observation and form an opinion about these topics.
 
Furthermore, these scientific topics are all new and it is still under exploration and ongoing research and investigation.
 
I also believe in citizen science. Open access to science and knowledge is already transforming passionate citizens into extraordinary innovators. By the way, revolutionary breakthrough over history came mainly from passionate individuals (not the elite experts and officials). I don't have to provide your with examples!   
 
As the same time, I don't believe in structured learning and formal  education. In my learning and knowledge seeking,  I follow the guidance of my emotion, feelings and intuitions. I don't have to  standard science methodologies which discounted the power of emotion in knowledge exploration and wisdom acquisition for the last few centuries.
 
Thanks God for the Internet which has been a loyal  friend on this journey of universal exploration.
 
For more info about the power of emotions and how it can change our intellectual and surrounding spaces please watch the clip below. The clip also talk about the fallacies of standard science (that dominated our lives for the last few centuries).  
 
the power of emotions 
 
All the best for 2010,
Khaled
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Hi Steve,
 
Thanks for sharing your supportive feedback.
 
In today's open semantic spaces, enhanced linguistic awareness is needed to build diverse metaphoric wealth to understand and make sense of our "real"/virtual surroundings better. Otherwise, people with limited linguistic awareness will often run into communication breakdown within today's complex linguistic spaces. 
 
All the best for 2010,
Khaled
  

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Thanks Matt,
 
I've come across several of your posts on various lists and I really appreciate your straight forwardness.
 
Let's see if I can put in context why I end up with the Dunning-Kruger effect on you.
 
When I post to respond, I usually improvise spontaneously from my data collection, which is very limited, and from my experience, which has to do with the recovery road from the point of view of my being a struggling stay-at-home-dad. 
Mostly, I try to respond to explore how to find the groove at hand and how to experience it progressively with others, hopefully to touch the inspiration and possibilities of the topic.
 
When I post to open up a topic, it is usually an attempt to promote a possibility that I see to build the recovery road of humanity from personal to communal, seeking to open up an all-inclusive avenue to explore the topic's relatedness from its micro details to its macro vision and implications. 
 
In my 51 years so far, I find that there comes a point in all of the human experience, at which we are all the same, as much as we are all different and vice and versa.
 
So trying really hard not to preach, my aim is always an attempt to stimulate readers toward the deep substance of life, reaching out to communicate the application of The Word of God made flesh in Christ-Jesus and in His people by His Spirit.
 
So this is too bad that I come across to you with the Dunning-Kruger effect and thank you for alerting me to it.  I'll work harder not to come across as an ignorant loud mouth.
 
May the holiday season extends its blessings to us all, all year around!
 
Benoit
 

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Matt,
 
You state that, "The things I value most on the value networks list are posts that dig deep into the difficulties of systemic change from a value network perspective." I feel the same way. So, I hope we get back on track shortly.
 
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I prefer to stand on the shoulders of giants. Learning from the great minds who have gone before, what their "emotions, feelings and intuitions" told them as they explored and discovered and built on their intellectual ancestors. I prefer to learn from those who precede me, in hopes of sharpening our steps as we co-evolve to a shared future.

Pretending that all who came before have nothing to offer is intellectually lazy. It may sound noble to reject "structured learning and formal education," but only if you substitute that with some respect for those who have craved the intellectual paths of history. You appear to have nothing but contempt for the dead, believing the ills of the world are best addressed by your personal journey alone. My personal "formal education" prepared me with a canon of literature and thought that I treasure each day. It is comforting to know I am not alone, and I hope I leave behind something upon which future generations may build.

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We live in two different semantic worlds. your conclusions doesn't represent what I wrote.
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Space is needed for cognitive diversity / complexity
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Yes Victor: Multilingualism enables cultural mobility, social connectivity and cognitive flexibility.
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HI Khaled

 

This has been a very interesting thread. Thank you for sharing your slides. I totally agree that we need a new linguistic awareness.

In my journey of learning Español, English, Deutsch, Italiano and Francais my awareness has expanded in fascinating ways. In this process I have learnt that language serves as a marvelous vehicle for the soul to learn and know different aspects of the human spirit. In order to learn a new language we have to become new again. This is why I am passionate about learning languages.

As we become fluent in other languages, our hearts embrace new ways of thinking and news ways of feeling and doing. Our power of creation becomes empowered.

I would be concerned to tag English (and any other language) in such a radical way (or generalizing  as George says).  Language is just a vehicle and an instrument for the Spirit to create reality. It is not the language the cause of colonization and cultural hegemony.

The challenges of an emerging civilization demands that we become fluent in the language of love, compassion, mutual understanding and collaboration. And even better at language of listening to each other.

This new language should eventually not even require words. Hopefully our collective awareness would become one day so expanded that we may be able to  communicate heart to heart, soul to soul, spirit to spirit. A language that can travel through the emerging networks at the speed and frequency of the Spirit.

For now… it seems that we have to struggle with the limitations (and beauty) of speech in the form of many languages. And definitely, we need a new linguistic awareness…

 

Mil gracias por compartir,

 

Victor Heredia

 

 

 

 

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Hi Khaled - I'm not sure where to start in responding to your post. Too many generalizations exist to even begin to unpack the ideas. Replace "English" with any other language...or with various religions...and the generalizations you make could likely also apply.

What is it that you wish to see changed with regard to English? It is, after all, only the third most prominent language in the world in terms of native speakers. Is your concern with capitalism? The west?  I feel that your underlying message needs to be challenged, but I'm having a hard time orienting myself toward a suitable point with which to engage you.

Broadly speaking: It seems to me that you are actually critiquing human nature (however you choose to define that) rather than language.

George

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Hi Matt,

 

Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I respect all languages and cultures including English (I am only against the historical usage of English).

 

Historically, English have been used to promote linguistic colonization and cultural hegemony and enabled cultural conflicts. Furthermore, it has  has been used by capitalist media to distort language landscapes in north and south and  facilitate market penetration and promote consumerism for capitalist interests. This media and marketing use of English has caused significant human, cultural and environmental losses for many societies and nations around the world.


 

Finally, I am trying to address and re-frame edgy cultural issues to facilitate new intercultural consciousness and enable new metalanguage to help us overcome cross-cultural and language barriers.

 

Thanks for your contributions,

Khaled

 


 

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What the world needs in Semantic Interoperability...which will never happen as long as people think they are in charge AND we have different religions.  I think different religions is more appropriate than different cultures...just a gut feeling.

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Khaled,

You need to relax a little and remember that there are no two people on this planet who are physiologically (mentally and physically) identical. Therefore, each person must first interpret a given situation (process, problem, opportunity or environment) in their own particular way before they can or will take some action. Essentially, one can never force someone else to fully think and behave in a certain way no matter what a respondent may say in return.

 

As an example, English is my third language. My mother tongue is Estonian (my Estonian first name is Kalev-it’s a long story how it got to Charles). During WW II our family got split apart (I never saw my mother again and I didn’t see my sister until 1982). After the war I finished my elementary education in Hamburg, Germany. So, German became my second language. Finally, after spending a year at sea as a deckboy (where I saw much of the world first hand), I immigrated to the United States with my father in 1950.

 

I earned my MBA and Ph.D. while serving in the US Air Force where I also spent time in different parts of the globe including Iran. As a dean and professor in higher education I also taught graduate courses in international management with heavy emphases on differing cultures.

 

So, am I an “expert” in international cultures? Far from it. I do, however, place great importance in staying current with both what is happening in mutable scientific fields and how people are dealing with day-to-day practical needs. I also still do quite a bit of writing (mostly to clarify things for myself) and speaking in order to test and see if I’m at least on the right track.

 

Life is both about unconscious thought/reaction and conscious thought/action. Both are equally important to our own survival and that of our species. However, only wide spread education and knowledge BASED ON FIRST-RATE SCIENCE will save us from ourselves. The world population is too large and too connected to continue relying on individual tribal systems of beliefs.

 

Now let’s get back to having more focused discussions of value networks based on appropriate scientific rigor.  

 

HAPPY HOLIDAYS!  

 

Charlie/Kalev

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I’d like to suggest iTunes U.

 

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and Ben, lest we forget, we must remember, we are all related!  

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Sergio,

 

I have attached a piece I write a couple of years ago relating

culture and agreements. In terms of examples "The Book of Agreement"

published in 2003 has over 35 examples of agreements I have facilitated

in many different contexts.

 

Stewart

 

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CREATING A CULTURE OF AGREEMENT AND RESOLUTION.doc

Stewart Levine

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I just want to punctuate the point that although we have differences we are more alike at a fundamental

core than different.

 

Peace to all for the New Year!

 

Stewart

 

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Thanks Matt,

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Dear Charlie,

I always enjoy your wise insights and thought provoking postings and comments on this forum. In your posting below, I  had difficulties in understanding  "FIRST-RATE SCIENCE".?

I think science ( both physical and social) suffers from many critical diseases (biases)  including scientific ignorance, colonialism /imperialism, minimalism and intellectual bureaucracy...etc. 

In my experience, I found engagement in  deep Intercultural conversations is helpful in limiting the impact of these fatal diseases on our "scientific" worldviews and it improves  "scientific understanding" among groups.

At the same time, I glad to find  (after doing few minutes Google search) that a group of Canadian scientists and scholars are trying  to cure the "FIRST_RATE SCIENCE"  from its chronic diseases and make it more human (and inclusive). For more info on this topic check this link:

http://www.situsci.ca/en/sitesofknowing.html

All the best,

Khaled



 
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