Naked Woman in Ngajad Tantrik Performance ??? नगजाड़ तंत्र पूजा में औरत को नंगा हो कर ही क्यों पूजा करवानी पडती है ?

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bhishma kukreti

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Mystical Knowledge of Kumaun and Garhwal
                    Why is Neccessary a  Woman Performing  Nakedly  in Nagjad Tantrik Performance
                      नगजाड़   तंत्र पूजा में औरत को नंगा हो कर ही क्यों  पूजा करवानी पडती है ?           
 
                 ( Mantra Tantra in Garhwal, Mantra Tantra of Kumaun, Himalayan Tantra and Mantra  )
                                               Bhishma Kukreti
                        नगजाड छाया पूजने कि एक तांत्रिक विधि है . छाया औरतों को ही लगती है और उन्हें ही छाया पुजवानी पडती है 
   छाया पूजने का एक  हठयोग या बामयोगीय पूजन है जिसे गढवाली में नगजाड कहते हैं और यह तभी किया जाता है जब सामान्य छाया पूजन प्रभावकारी नहीं  होते हैं
   नगजाड अधिकतर गाड गदन के किनारे सबकी नजर से दूर करवाया जाता है जिसमे मान्त्रिक मंत्रावली, दडियावली  आदि के मंत्र पढ़ता है और मान्त्रिक कई तांत्रिक अभिषेक भी करवाता है /करता है  . इसमें एक विशेष बात है कि औरत को नंगा होकर पूजा करवानी पडती है और पुराने कपड़े वहीं छोड़ आने पड़ते हैं
     देखा जाय तो यह अजीव  लगता है क़ि एक  औरत को गैर मर्द के सामने अकेले में नंगा होकर पूजा करवानी पडती है किन्तु इस  तांत्रिक अभियोजन  के पीछे विज्ञानं भैरव का निम्न सूत्र या मूल सिधांत निहित  है
      स्वदेहे जगतो वापी सूक्ष्मसुक्ष्मतराणि च
      तत्वानी यानि निलयम ध्यात्वान्ते   व्यज्यते परा (विज्ञानं   भैरव , ५४ )   
     If one mediates on the subtle and subletest elements in one's own body or of the world as if they are merging one after another , then in the end the sSupreme is revealed ( (Vigyan Bhairav 54 )
 यह सूत्र मनुष्य को अपने ही शरीर को केन्द्रित कर उस पर ध्यानमग्न होने की सलाह देता  है . इसे हम स्नानगृह  में बिलकुल नंगे होकर अपने शरीर को लगातार देखने से भी अनुभव कर सकते हैं हमे अपने शरीर को लगातार देखने से// सम्पूर्ण रूप से अपने शरीर पर ध्यान केन्द्रित करते हुए  आनन्द आने लगता है और हम वर्तमान स्तिथि में आने लगते हैं (ना भूतकाल की शरम और ना ही भविष्य की कोई चिंता )
  विज्ञान भैरव में शरीर से सम्बन्धित  योग क्रियायों के १२३ सूत्र का बेजोड़ ग्रन्थ है .    नगजाड   तांत्रिक प्रक्रिया में विज्ञानं भैरव का यही सिधांत काम करता दीखता है
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bhishma kukreti

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May 23, 2011, 5:27:37 AM5/23/11
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Dear Bisht Ji
Thanks for comments and opposition without providing any reasons
I am fed up to answer those who oppose without understanding the theme and dont see any reason to reply them as Your mail, many mails in two three sites( now I am no long member of those sites who are without modirator)
Great : Who did say i am great?
What is the meaning of DONGh ? If is it Dhong then you and we all are Dhongi who believe in Vaishnavi Karmkand because those are nothing but Tantra only and in sanskrit
If Uttarakhandis or non Uttarakghandis are visiting sites let them decide the fate of my writting .They did  not provid you any right to judge me by your bias thought or opposing without any understanding what i have written or what those mantra are
If my writing have substance it will alive even after oppositin without any substances
it is foolishness opposing without substancial references
there are more than hundred knowledge and more than thousand art > i am just mailing one art and one knowledge out of so much knowledge and art of old Kumaun and garhwal
eEerybody is free in internet to mail what she/he knows
now you said about poverty
If you are so serious or sensitive I have been requesting many people to start discussion rather advising me to discuss on poverty, illness etc
if you are so much interested what my thoughts on richness please call my artilces published in Garhwali Dhai, Suman nagar Dharmpur Dehradun wherein i published articles  in series "Harek Gadhwali tain Karodpati Hoon chayend हरेक गढवाली तैं करोडपति हूण चएंद "
If you are interested in my views on economical growth of Uttarakhand , please call newspapers from Shail vani devi road Kotdwara Pauri Garhwal wherein my articles (around 150) were published on Marketing of Tourism in Uttarakhand for two years (उत्तराखंड में पर्यटन विपणन की परिकल्पना )
If you are interested on Export development from Uttarakhand please call old issues of Garhwal Post Dehradun an English Newspaper of Uttarakhand where I published articles in series on Export from uttarakhand
if you are interested to protect local language please call issues from  Shailvani wherein i published more than 20 articles on Garhwali tain moran se Bachava
Instead of advising me or others to talk about poverty etc please you start yourselve


 
2011/5/23 DEVENDRA BIST <devend...@yahoo.com>
 

Friends,
 
What great Mr. Kukrati jee is trying to push through this "DONGH" the vast population of Uttarakhand in particular and also the other people visiting this site.
Is all these ritual can be of any use to remove the illiteracy,poverty,backwardness,illness,disease and misery of our people.
 
Dear friends raise your voice for such misuse of the well read site.
 
Thanks.
Devendra Bist.


From: Anita Dubey <anita...@yahoo.com>
To: PauriG...@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, May 23, 2011 11:18:03 AM
Subject: Re: [PGGroup] Naked Woman in Ngajat Tantrik Performance ??? नगजाड़ तंत्र पूजा में औरत को नंगा हो कर ही क्यों पूजा करवानी पडती है ?

 

How can one justify idiotic actions as a means of realization of self or God?
These activities named as rituals are nothing but wickedness of a perverted mind. Tantrik performance is outrageously backward.
 
Anita Dubey



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Sent: Thu, May 19, 2011 7:19:02 PM
Subject: [PGGroup] Naked Woman in Ngajat Tantrik Performance ??? नगजाड़ तंत्र पूजा में औरत को नंगा हो कर ही क्यों पूजा करवानी पडती है ?

 

Mystical Knowledge of Kumaun and Garhwal

                    Why is Necessary a  Woman Performing  Nakedly  in Najjad Tantrik Performance

                      नगजाड़   तंत्र पूजा में औरत को नंगा हो कर ही क्यों  पूजा करवानी पडती है ?           
 
                 ( Mantra Tantra in Garhwal, Mantra Tantra of Kumaun, Himalayan Tantra and Mantra  )
                                               Bhishma Kukreti
                        नगजाड छाया पूजने कि एक तांत्रिक विधि है . छाया औरतों को ही लगती है और उन्हें ही छाया पुजवानी पडती है 
   छाया पूजने का एक  हठयोग या बामयोगीय पूजन है जिसे गढवाली में नगजाड कहते हैं और यह तभी किया जाता है जब सामान्य छाया पूजन प्रभावकारी नहीं  होते हैं
   नगजाड अधिकतर गाड गदन के किनारे सबकी नजर से दूर करवाया जाता है जिसमे मान्त्रिक मंत्रावली, दडियावली  आदि के मंत्र पढ़ता है और मान्त्रिक कई तांत्रिक अभिषेक भी करवाता है /करता है  . इसमें एक विशेष बात है कि औरत को नंगा होकर पूजा करवानी पडती है और पुराने कपड़े वहीं छोड़ आने पड़ते हैं
     देखा जाय तो यह अजीव  लगता है क़ि एक  औरत को गैर मर्द के सामने अकेले में नंगा होकर पूजा करवानी पडती है किन्तु इस  तांत्रिक अभियोजन  के पीछे विज्ञानं भैरव का निम्न सूत्र या मूल सिधांत निहित  है
      स्वदेहे जगतो वापी सूक्ष्मसुक्ष्मतराणि च
      तत्वानी यानि निलयम ध्यात्वान्ते   व्यज्यते परा (विज्ञानं   भैरव , ५४ )   

     If one mediates on the subtle and subletest elements in one's own body or of the world as if they are merging one after another , then in the end the Supremes revealed ( (Vigyan Bhairav 54 )

 यह सूत्र मनुष्य को अपने ही शरीर को केन्द्रित कर उस पर ध्यानमग्न होने की सलाह देता  है . इसे हम स्नानगृह  में बिलकुल नंगे होकर अपने शरीर को लगातार देखने से भी अनुभव कर सकते हैं हमे अपने शरीर को लगातार देखने से// सम्पूर्ण रूप से अपने शरीर पर ध्यान केन्द्रित करते हुए  आनन्द आने लगता है और हम वर्तमान स्तिथि में आने लगते हैं (ना भूतकाल की शरम और ना ही भविष्य की कोई चिंता )
  विज्ञान भैरव में शरीर से सम्बन्धित  योग क्रियायों के १२३ सूत्र का बेजोड़ ग्रन्थ है .    नगजाड   तांत्रिक प्रक्रिया में विज्ञानं भैरव का यही सिधांत काम करता दीखता है
Copyright@ Bhishma Kukreti, bcku...@gmail.com
 
               

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Regards
B. C. Kukreti                        
Director
Factory Retail (I) Limited
3, White Hose, 154 Sher E Punjab ,
Near Tolani College
Andheri (East)
Mumbai 40093
Contact 9920066774

bhishma kukreti

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May 24, 2011, 4:25:11 AM5/24/11
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Dear All,
How to Criticize a Concept ?
i am requesting you all when any body wants to criticize a concept or theme the said person should not just oppose but should provide:
1- A logical and factual reasoning for opposing
2- The criticism may be negative as wel positive but in both the cases the main theme has to be understood first and then analysed the way person wants to criticize
3- Name your theme of criticism : without naming your theme may be wasteful
4- Provide references or example if you are criticising the concept as without refernce your views will be called bias criticism
5- Before criticism, know the theme from the writer angle and then compare with your theme
6- Elaborate your theme : You should put better alternate of the theme whom you are criticizing
7- Your alternate theme should be judged by logical means
8- Have some questions to be answered by your readers
9- If it is related social theme then you should show benefits of your alternate theme and show weaker points of the theme you are criticizing
10- Involve the forum if it is social theme
11- Create some controversy but with logical points

2011/5/24 DEVENDRA BIST <devend...@yahoo.com>
I think the whole of Uttarakhand and in particular the dev bhoomi part i.e. Garhwal is full of this 'nautanki' prophesied by Shri Kukrati jee. Other than this there is no culture,religion,ritual and spirituality left in Mr Kukreti's mind and in this geographical region. No one in this Pauri Garhwal group is serious about this.
I think this group has nothing more than this to tell us.
It is enough Mr Kukreti please stop this do some thing genuine and real which can help poor uttarakhandi. Do some thing for education,medical care and the most for the fragile environment and the 'Nasha bandi'.
 
Hope good sense will prevail.
Thanks and regards to all who read this.
 
Devendra Bist.


From: Vishwa - Dehradun <vis...@cybertalents-india.com>
To: devend...@yahoo.com
Sent: Mon, May 23, 2011 5:04:04 PM
Subject: FW: [PGGroup] Naked Woman in Ngajad Tantrik Performance ??? नगजाड़ तंत्र पूजा में औरत को नंगा हो कर ही क्यों पूजा करवानी पडती है ?

I think Mr Kukreti should create a separate Tantrik forum and carry on from there!

 

From: Vishwa - Dehradun [mailto:vis...@cybertalents-india.com]
Sent: 23 May 2011 15:55
To: 'Anita Dubey'
Subject: RE: [PGGroup] Naked Woman in Ngajad Tantrik Performance ???
नगजाड़ तंत्र पूजा में औरत को नंगा हो कर ही क्यों पूजा करवानी पडती है ?
Importance: High

 

Dear Anitaji,

 

I am beginning to get fed up of this forum, I think all this tantric stuff is pure bullshit, is it all going to help Garhwali people in any way? When I try to post serious and perfectly polite message regarding burning social issues, I am being censored out. While shri Kukreti is given full freedom regarding naked women and skulls in smashan bhoomis. There is also a heavy political slant, you will note that rampant corruption in UK is never addressed. Please try to pass on my views to people yoyu may know. I have no voice apparently because I am not Garhwali.

 

Best wishes

 

Vishwa

 

 

From: PauriG...@yahoogroups.com [mailto:PauriG...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Anita Dubey
Sent: 23 May 2011 11:18
To: PauriG...@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PGGroup] Naked Woman in Ngajad Tantrik Performance ???
नगजाड़ तंत्र पूजा में औरत को नंगा हो कर ही क्यों पूजा करवानी पडती है ?

How can one justify idiotic actions as a means of realization of self or God?

These activities named as rituals are nothing but wickedness of a perverted mind. Tantrik performance is outrageously backward.
 

Anita Dubey

 

 


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Sent: Thu, May 19, 2011 7:19:02 PM

नगजाड़ तंत्र पूजा में औरत को नंगा हो कर ही क्यों पूजा करवानी पडती है ?

 

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bhishma kukreti

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May 24, 2011, 10:31:33 PM5/24/11
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Dear Mayak
Thanks for your long mail
Sub : Still No Concret Reason for Stopping Exploration of Yantra, Mantra and Tantra Literature
Now , at least there is some substance in opposing my theme . Otherwise most of opposition is "Suna Hua Par dekha nahi"
As far as Aswal word used by me is concerned , I said that  if I analyze 13000 Garhwali proverbs (which are also being lost due to migration) then some body will criticize me as I am being opposed for Mantra and Tantra Literature . Aswal word was used as to show PROVERB which is also a literature
 Mantra ,Tantra and Yantra is a literature , I have every right to analyze the same as my predesscessors as Dr Pitamabr Datt barthwal , Abodh Bandhu Bahuguna , Dr Shiva Nan d Nautiyal or Dr Vishnu datt Kukreti analyzed them as from their point of view.
Now, if you go HOME, then you would be watching all types of Karmkand there and evry Karmkand is result of Mantra, Tantra and Yantra . If those exist there or here in our family , I am not doing any sin by exploring them
  I am confused by word ADMINISTRATOR . If you mean modirator , please note I am not modirator of any Mailing group . If you mean adminstrator in professional life I would like to declare that nothing to do with Garhwali literature with my professional life
Culture: The culture is created  from knowledge and art. When both change the culture also change. But there is no harm in analyzing /exploring old  culture . You may say these literature perbrted but it is not so they still exist this way or that way
If even this literature is no more or dont have sense (as you called non sense to me and for these mantra) the literature should be analyzed . Unless and untill these mantras are studied you cant prove they are NONSENSE . Please study and then prove about their NONSENSE ness
I would like to stress again my aim is not to popularize Jhad Tad but to study and let you also know them . Now it is upto you to accept as it is or oppose them with logical means
    your poit - Look from other point of view: I have been interpreting Yantra, Mantra and Tantra literature and it is difficult to interprete the way you want
If you want to interprete these spiritual literature from your angle you must do and let us know your views .  your views will enrich we all. However, my request you should tell why analyzing/informing these mantra is wrong .
Just saying these are wrong is no opposition
Honest Opinion: You asked me to provide honest opinion . I have been interpreting Yantra, Tantra mantra literature by comparing them with Sanskrit Samhitayen whether Vedas, Upnishad, Bhairav tantra etc and if my interetition is wrong please correct with other examples . I am sure all will welcome the interpretition other than me
 My point is still there that you and my other mailing  mates are not coming out with logical reasons why I should stop interprettion of Yantra, Tantra and Mantra literature
 If you say these are Andhvishwash then the  Barakh Poojan, Namkaran, yagypavit , Marriage ceremony rituals are also Andhvishwas . Being in Sanskrit these rituals cant be less Andhvishwashi than Mantra in local languages
If you read and understand these mantra you will find that those are having PHILOSOPHY , Preaching, History
i would like to provide you one example of Yantra , there are some alphabets and numbers on Yantra . In a way they look like idiotic but those aplhabets are Beej mantra and those are short version of a mantra . the words of Yantra are abbrevative  words and some scholar is needed to interprete them .
I once again request you and others come out with logical reasoning to oppose Mantra philosophy
2011/5/24 Mayank Singh Aswal <mayank...@gmail.com>
Dear Kukretiji,
 
Although, I didnt think it was sensible enough to reply to you to your last email to me where you told me the same points and emphasizing on "Aswal's and Garhwal". But I can also see I am not the only "idiotic" guy out here. To reason with a guy in front, he needs to also think in in your so called "unbiased" ways. Don't tell me that being an "Aswal", and criticizing your emails makes me any less Proud Garhwali than you are. Regarding your question about being back home. We both are in Mumbai and Pune and I make trips every month back home. ... I am well aware of my family history... Guess that makes me more of an "Aswal" than you think... Right...?? So, with all due respect, I would appreciate f you would not include any caste related opinions while replying to emails...
 
Just being an administrator does not give you trhe right to tell everyone what or what not to criticize...
 
I read all your 10 points you mentions and although I appreciate them had your writting had any sense in them, but apprantly they do not apply to nonsense. Take it personally or not, I do not care because this is not my culture anymore. This is not Garhwali Culture anymore.
 
You remimded me of a very well said phrase "I seldom argue, but when I do I am not questioning your intelligence, I am assuming you have none".
 
I know it is a very strong statement and I am well aware of the sensible issue syou have brought to board here, but whether you agree or not, no on is interested in this nonsense. I am not sure who asked you to post these on board, but it will be definitely appreciated if you can reply to them personally as well... Or rather make a Bootiya Garhwali Group...
 
Again to reply to all of your points about logical reasoning and getting it from a writters point of view, I have only one answer to that. "You can only reason and criticize something logical". As far as your bias criticizm theory stands... Maybe you should also look your work from another readers point of view. Just because you are good at writting something does not means that others are fools to read something and give there views about it. And what logical explaination do you want me to tell you that stop giving the perverted views of tantriks on a naked women.
 
Not sure who moderates this group, but I do want this email to go to each and every menber of the group to give my strong.. And in your words biased opinion to see how of them agree with me and how many of them agree with you...
 
You want to have an open discussion about it, so let it be...
 
Members : PLease provide honest opinions of the recent series of articles and whether these add any value to your life or for Garhwal as well....
 
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2011/5/24 bhishma kukreti <bcku...@gmail.com>

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Dear Mayank
Thanks
i have been clarifying that my aim is just to inform community members
that This litrature also exist
You still just saying the practice is rediculous but not defining the
reason for being these practice as rediculous practices
Anlaysing a literature is one aspect and telling people to practice is
another aspect
In old ays, Thaokdar of Garhwal and other areas used to do LOOT and if
we analyze them today that never means the anlyzer is promoting LOOT

On 5/25/11, Mayank Singh Aswal <mayank...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear Kukretiji,
>
> I guess you are not getting the point others are trying to present here.
> Lets leave the fact what valus does these practices add to the value of the
> grop. If you do are interested in publishing such articals, you first need
> to find a audience that is in fact interested in these.
>
> In todays world, I do not believe anyone is in fact interested in these
> orthodox and mundane practices. I read that you are not supporting these
> practices but by publishing them it does seems like these are being
> publicised. I never read in your statements that this needs to be stopped or
> maybe completely banned. The fact that these practices go on in our society
> is a shame and if you do not believe in this statement then you are
> promoting it. I guess you have to find an answer to this question by
> yourself.
>
> If in fact you want to increase your knowledge in Tantra Mantra, feel free
> to do it in your private space. If tomorrow you start explaining the meaning
> and practices of "SATI PRATHA" in this group will that add any value to it
> or will that give any of us some knoledge. And let me reming you it was also
> a part of our culture. But this place as a group is not the right stage to
> propogate such ... and I repeat "NONSENSE" practices.
>
> I would appreciate if you do make out a group for orthodox practices in
> Garhwal and share all this information to the audiences who join there.
>
> I do hope you can get the "logic" behind what we are saying here. Because if
> you cannot understand this fact then its useless to carry on this discussion
> per say. Because there is one thing about presenting a point and
> understanding it and another to completely iignoring everything and saying
> "I am the Boss". You decide what you are.
>
> Plain simple fact, (by your orthodox reasoning) as a member of this group I
> strongly oppose these kind of emails in our group. If anyone wants to study
> these, practice these, take it in your private space. Discuss these in some
> cult group but not here. If we still have problems, take a vote. Period. Why
> argue when you just don't want to get it.
>
> --
> Warm Regards
> Mayank.
>
> 2011/5/25 bhishma kukreti <bcku...@gmail.com>
>
>> Dear Devendra ji
>> Thanks for mail as opposition means involvement.If you dont agree with
>> me it definitely means you are involved and involvement is the best
>> part in community
>> My first concern about your words, " What Good t will do to our society"
>> I or you are not to decide what is good or bad .
>> Secondly, to know the culture by analyzing/information is part and
>> partial of life. It is on individuals to follow or not to follow
>> Thirdly, I am not a preacher and never stressed that we should follow
>> the mantra, tantra or Ynatra
>> I would like to inform all that due to our one ancestor Randev jee
>> from our village Jaspur, who was converted into Dalya Gurujee no
>> Kukreti of Jaspur practices Mantrik or Tantrik vidya . Matlab Jaspur
>> Gweel ke koi bhi kukreti mantrik/tantrik sadiyon se nahi hain . It
>> means I dont have any personal nterest in spreading Mantrik Tantrik
>> philosophy
>> Fourthly, I am just providing what is available in published or oral
>> literature with commentary
>> I am just informing waht is there and I am no authorty to tell whether
>> it is good or bad
>> I am still to get logical answer from you and others "Why the Mantra
>> Tantra Yantra culture not to be discussed on Internet if there are
>> published literature
>> I would like to inform you that Dr Pitamabar Datt Barthwal had been
>> first Doctorate ature (D Lit ) of India and he got this degree on
>> analyzing such literature .
>> What Good I did by publishing this literature
>> It is not me to decide What good or bad I did I leave you all to tell me
>>
>> On 5/25/11, DEVENDRA BIST <devend...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> > Dear Kukreti jee,
>> >
>> > Thanks for the concept for criticizing.
>> > May I request you please tell all of us in one line what good you have
>> > done by
>> > this bhoot and naked women thesis, hope you have a Doctorate in this
>> absurd
>> > mantra and tantra which is degenerating the intelligence of garhwal and
>> > Uttarakhand.
>> > Before preaching you should have thought what good it will do to our
>> > society.
>> > Writing a good vocabulary and language does not mean it is right logical
>> and
>> > the
>> > most is useful. You have very good yellow or pink literature available
>> > in
>> > the
>> > publications, it does not mean you throttle down all these in our mind
>> and
>> > thought. Think before posting such articles which have the negative
>> > value
>> > for
>> > the society.
>> > Think about society of Dev Bhoomi.
>> >
>> > Please do put my submisson to you and all..
>> > Thanks and regards.
>> >
>> > Devendra Bist.


>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ________________________________
>> > From: bhishma kukreti <bcku...@gmail.com>

>> > To: DEVENDRA BIST <devend...@yahoo.com>
>> > Cc: PauriG...@yahoogroups.com; arju


>> > <uttranchal...@googlegroups.com>;
>> > uttarancha...@yahoogroups.com; kumaoni garhwali
>> > <kumaoni-...@yahoogroups.com>; younguttaranchal mygroup
>> > <youngutt...@yahoogroups.com>; Youth United
>> > <burans.yo...@gmail.com>;
>> > mumbaiuttarakhandi <mumbaiutt...@yahoogroups.com>

>> > Sent: Tue, May 24, 2011 1:55:11 PM


>> > Subject: Re: [PGGroup] Naked Woman in Ngajad Tantrik Performance ???
>> नगजाड़
>> > तंत्र
>> > पूजा में औरत को नंगा हो कर ही क्यों पूजा करवानी पडती है ?
>> >
>> >

>> >>नगजाड़तंत्रपूजामेंऔरतकोनंगाहोकरहीक्योंपूजाकरवानीपडतीहै?

>> >> तत्वानीयानिनिलयमध्यात्वान्ते व्यज्यते परा(विज्ञानं भैरव, ५४ )


>> >> If one mediates on the subtle and subletest elements in one's own
>> body
>> >> or
>> >>of the world as if they are merging one after another , then in the end
>> the
>> >>

>> >>sSupreme is revealed ((Vigyan Bhairav 54 )

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>> >
>> > --
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Regards
>> > B. C. Kukreti
>> > Director
>> > Factory Retail (I) Limited
>> > 3, White Hose, 154 Sher E Punjab ,
>> > Near Tolani College
>> > Andheri (East)
>> > Mumbai 40093
>> > Contact 9920066774
>> >
>>
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>>
>>
>> Regards
>> *B. C. Kukreti *
>> *Director *
>> *Factory Retail (I) Limited *


>> 3, White Hose, 154 Sher E Punjab ,
>> Near Tolani College
>> Andheri (East)
>> Mumbai 40093
>> Contact 9920066774
>>
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Are Guru jee, aap aapni bahas mein Thokdaro ko kyon ghashit rahe ho ?
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Negi Jee
I just provided example and nothing against Thok

2011/5/25 Mayank Singh Aswal <mayank...@gmail.com>
Kukretiji,
 
We are not in PAST anymore. We are in present and looking forward to future.
 
If you want an still want an explanation as why "A naked women should dance in front of tantrik and other people" is ridiculous, than I have no more words to offer to you. In my views it is called perverted thinking. Not sure what words you have in your literature for it.
 
Again just because you are moderator and no one screens your posts does not give you a right to impose your litrature on to the group. If this is the case, then your emails will go in trash going forward. Not sure how many of the group maembers want this trash but definitely not me.
 
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ridiculous,

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