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Rishi

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May 21, 2002, 7:04:23 AM5/21/02
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Hi,
 
I am using pagemaker to create a chinese layout.
I have 3 true type fonts on my machine.
I am using a pc with Windows NT
 
When i create a pdf file from pagemaker, the Chinese fonts are not visible and are substituted.
 
I have installed the Chinese Traditional and Standard language kit on my machine, still i am not able to view the fonts as it is in pagemaker.
 
 

Leonard Rosenthol

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May 21, 2002, 7:46:14 AM5/21/02
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At 4:31 PM +0530 5/21/02, Rishi wrote:
I am using pagemaker to create a chinese layout.
I have 3 true type fonts on my machine.
I am using a pc with Windows NT
 
When i create a pdf file from pagemaker, the Chinese fonts are not visible and are substituted.

        How are you creating the PDF from PageMaker?  Do you know if the fonts you are working with permit embedding?


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Rishi

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May 21, 2002, 8:31:51 AM5/21/02
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I am selecting a Acrobat Distiller as the printer to create a pdf file from pagemaker.
The fonts which i am using is Ms Song.
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At 4:31 PM +0530 5/21/02, Rishi wrote:
I am using pagemaker to create a chinese layout.
I have 3 true type fonts on my machine.
I am using a pc with Windows NT
 
When i create a pdf file from pagemaker, the Chinese fonts are not visible and are substituted.

Leonard Rosenthol

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May 21, 2002, 10:26:59 AM5/21/02
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At 6:02 PM +0530 5/21/02, Rishi wrote:
I am selecting a Acrobat Distiller as the printer to create a pdf file from pagemaker.

        OK, that's good.  Just making sure you weren't trying to use PDFWriter.


The fonts which i am using is Ms Song.

        Does Distiller report any errors in its log about embedding problems?

Rishi

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May 22, 2002, 1:16:50 AM5/22/02
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Yes the error in its log is
 
"TT1B0B7459TH not found, using Courier."
 
My basic requirement is to create a pdf file since the client just needs the pdf file and we will also use the pdf file for the web.
 
But since the layout is in such way that i cannot use Microsoft Word.
The initial files were in word. When i create a pdf from the word all the fonts are embedded properly.
 
That is why i am surprised that why the same fonts are not embedding thru pagemaker.
 
kindly give the feedback
 
Thanks
 
 
 
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Jim Caldwell

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May 22, 2002, 2:47:23 AM5/22/02
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Dear Rishi,

I have found that using distiller to create Chinese PDF's, using fonts that
do not allow full embedding, the PDF's work very well when I set distiller
options to not embed fonts, but to subset them.

The result is that only a subset of the Chinese font is embedded, the
characters that are in the document. If the client has the font, then
he/she can substitute and print using their own fonts. If they do not have
the fonts, they can still read the PDF with with the look and feel that I
intended.

Good luck.

Jim Caldwell

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Rishi

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May 22, 2002, 3:11:42 AM5/22/02
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hi jim,
 
I tried your option also still i am getting a log error which says
 
"TT1B0B7459TH not found, using Courier."
 
I only need that this font Ms Song should display properly in the pdf.
 
I am trying to create the pdf now on Mac.
 
Can some one tell where can i get the Ms Song font for Mac.
I have also heard the Adobe Indesign support Asian languages very well  so now i am trying to open my PageMaker file in Adobe indesign, but i need the mac font

Andrew Smith

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May 23, 2002, 4:20:03 AM5/23/02
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The other day I created a test audio file in the .wav format. It was about 560K. I then converted it to MP3 with a file size of 37K and the sound quality for voice was very good.
 
Does anyone know if there is a plug in for Acrobat Reader that would allow MP3 audio files to be opened and played?
 
Regards
 
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Leonard Rosenthol

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May 23, 2002, 8:37:40 AM5/23/02
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At 8:07 PM +1200 5/23/02, Andrew Smith wrote:
>The other day I created a test audio file in the .wav format. It was
>about 560K. I then converted it to MP3 with a file size of 37K and
>the sound quality for voice was very good.
>
>Does anyone know if there is a plug in for Acrobat Reader that would
>allow MP3 audio files to be opened and played?
>

Not necessary. Acrobat will play any format that QuickTime
can (since it uses QT to handle sound).


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Dean Laffan

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Hi Andrew,

I hadn't forgotten that audio compression article, I look at it at least
once a day ;-) I have just been flat out.


on 23/5/02 6:07 PM, Andrew Smith at andrew...@xtra.co.nz wrote:

> The other day I created a test audio file in the .wav format. It was about
> 560K. I then converted it to MP3 with a file size of 37K and the sound quality
> for voice was very good.
>
> Does anyone know if there is a plug in for Acrobat Reader that would allow MP3
> audio files to be opened and played?

Not a plug in as such, but there is an easy way to do this. It's similar to
the 'Trojan Horse' method of inserting Flash into PDFs ...

Not everyone realises that MP3 is a native supported track in QT (it can
even stream) So create your MP3 (myfile.mp3) in whatever program you like,
open Quicktime Player, chose Import and select the mp3. . Save it as
mymovie.mov. (Note the change of extension to .mov) You now have a quicktime
movie with an MP3 track. You MUST have QT Pro to save the altered MP3/QT
movie, it doesn't matter which version the end user has for playback of the
file, the free version is fine.

When you save the QT movie make sure you click "Make Self Contained"
(Quicktime defaults to "Save Normally, Allow dependencies) You definitely
DON'T want this, as all it does is produce an "alias" which references the
original .wav media which will be lost when you transfer the file.

Insert the 'movie' as per normal into the Acrobat file. Of course it will
have an Acrobat 'Movie' rollover so you may like to cover it with a link or
some other hack. Interestingly even if you cover it with a Link ( with a
Play movie action) if you choose 'Show Movie Controller' in Acrobat's movie
options the Acrobat rollover is a link hand until it hits the controller and
then it reverts to a movie and you can hit Play and Pause on th movie
controller bar UNDERNEATH the Link. The space bar also acts to play/pause
the movie (MP3).

NOTE This means that PC viewers will need to have the QT Player installed
(version 4 or better). It is not available as a runtime executable on the CD
like Reader and must be installed to the users HD. Of course QT is native to
all Macs.

If you have a billion sound files to process/insert you may like to purchase
either Cleaner, http://www.discreet.com or Sorenson Squeeze
http://www.sorenson.com which allow you to batch compress the WAVs as QTs
with the MP3 track already in the .mov Also they have full control over the
compression for using things like hi-low pass filters and other tweaks which
can save a lot more bits, especially for voice which has such a narrow
dynamic range. I don't believe there are any other sound apps out there that
support MP3 in QT other than those 2, but I may be wrong.

All of the above and more is covered in my (half written) audio-in-PDF
article I'll try to pump it out next week, I got detoured into researching
and buying some new DVD authoring toys ;-)

Hopefully we will see MP3 audio supported as a native file Acrobat 6.

MPEG-4 movie support would be nice too.

Regards


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Bill Brown

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May 23, 2002, 9:18:28 AM5/23/02
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Not sure why I am getting all these e-mails........

Denis

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May 23, 2002, 11:14:19 AM5/23/02
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Hello Dean,

Thanks a lot for this... I have been trying to figure out how to shoehorn mp3's into
Acrobat via QT for more than 12 months... I look forward to seeing your article on
these issues.

Denis Postle

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> Hi Andrew,
>
> I hadn't forgotten that audio compression article, I look at it at least
> once a day ;-) I have just been flat out.
>
> on 23/5/02 6:07 PM, Andrew Smith at andrew...@xtra.co.nz wrote:
>
> > The other day I created a test audio file in the .wav format. It was about
> > 560K. I then converted it to MP3 with a file size of 37K and the sound quality
> > for voice was very good.
> >
> > Does anyone know if there is a plug in for Acrobat Reader that would allow MP3
> > audio files to be opened and played?
>
> Not a plug in as such, but there is an easy way to do this. It's similar to
> the 'Trojan Horse' method of inserting Flash into PDFs ...
>
> Not everyone realises that MP3 is a native supported track in QT (it can
> even stream) So create your MP3 (myfile.mp3) in whatever program you like,

> open Quicktime Player, chose Import and select the mp3. .<snip>

Steve Rindsberg

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May 23, 2002, 11:52:09 AM5/23/02
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>>Does anyone know if there is a plug in for Acrobat Reader that would

>>allow MP3 audio files to be opened and played?
>>
>
> Not necessary. Acrobat will play any format that QuickTime
>can (since it uses QT to handle sound).

Assuming QT's installed on the target platform.
That may not always be a valid assumption.
Acrobat itself includes QT on the CD but it's not apparently part of the
default install.
I don't know about reader.

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Michael Vitti

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May 29, 2002, 12:35:23 AM5/29/02
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Like, Dean, do you really think Adobe is listening?

mik

Dean Laffan wrote: support MP3 in QT other than those 2, but I may be wrong.

> Hopefully we will see MP3 audio supported as a native file Acrobat 6.
>
> MPEG-4 movie support would be nice too.

Michael Vitti

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Steve,

QT is not included with Reader installs, Acrobat specs .aif and .wav files which are 2-3
times the size of mp-3's. What I've seen with .aif sound files is my computer (G-4 667 mhz
Mac) or Reader ( v 4.xx or v5.xx) choke when while in a page dissolve; the sound stops which
is a presentation buzz kill. Can't wait to try replacing those bloated .aif files with trim,
lean (and easily digestible), mp-3 files.

Thanks for the tip, Dean L,


mik

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> >>Does anyone know if there is a plug in for Acrobat Reader that would
> >>allow MP3 audio files to be opened and played?
> >>
> >

> > Not necessary. Acrobat will play any format that QuickTime
> >can (since it uses QT to handle sound).

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on 24/5/02 3:43 AM, Michael Vitti at vitti...@earthlink.net wrote:

> Like, Dean, do you really think Adobe is listening?

O ye of little faith ! ;-)


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