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Dr Oohay,
As usual, very interesting, some of these controversial things that you say.
Throw us back to an earlier era and one of our bare-assed but not so primitive Man Friday type of ancestors would have been asking you, “Dr Livingstone, I presume?”
One bright morning in February 1964, Dr Eric Williams the Prime Minister of Trinidad & Tobago and also the author of Capitalism and Slavery addressed us at the morning assembly at our secondary school, The Prince of Wales School. His address had an enormous impact on yours truly.
Just as the poet put it : And that has made all the difference.
Some of the causes enumerated in Dick Harrison’s article, kidnapping, war captives, debt slavery etc have not been eradicated and up to very recently Africans were being auctioned in Libya
No matter how extreme you may be in bending over backwards in this case, you must admit, sounding a little like an experienced House Negro, I hope that you’ll continue to be black , and that’s one more reason why you shouldn’t be waltzing with David Horowitz on the sensitive matter of Reparations
We have Slavery endorsed in the Bible which is some people’s ultimate authority when it comes to morality, you’ve thoroughly masticated and digested Max Weber’s The Protestant Ethic and the Spirit of Capitalism , Walter Rodney’s How Europe Underdeveloped Africa and his Decolonial Marxism: Essays from the Pan-African Revolution , that’s where you're coming from and I understand that your dilemma is probably being further fuelled by the ideal missionary claim mostly addressed to Kunta Kinte in chains : “The truth shall set you free “ - and the later reinforcement of cheerful servitude, of Shmiling and Shuffering with unalloyed joy, Paul of course preaching, “Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ.” -
in contrast with El Hajj Malik Shabazz’s opinion that
Malcolm X also said, “You can have capitalism without racism”, and that’s why he was murdered.
Charity beginning at home, Islam succeeded in reforming and transforming the then decadent elements in the society to which the Message of the Quran was initially delivered.
Islam and Slavery : There are several passages in both the Quran and hadiths where slave owners are encouraged to free their slaves ( their human capital)
Maxime Rodinson says that if a revelation had come through the Archangel Gabriel ( the bringer of good news ) to the Prophet of Islam ,sallallahu alaihi wa salaam, with a specific AMR / commandment that all those who own slaves should free them all immediately, then the Meccan slave-owning elites would have deserted Islam faster than an arrow shot from a bow…
Post-the Berlin Conference of 1884-5, during the ensuing Cold War years in Africa, the ideological war between Capitalism and Communism the boogeyman , as framed by the Western hemisphere ( Uncle Sam & Allies terrified that the ANC would nationalise the mines - ditto why they murdered Lumumba ) and if you had been around then, you would have come across as a useful American asset, for promoting this kind of jazz, at that germane time, perhaps imbued with the spirit of Lent, that “there is none that is righteous, not even one “ , that “all have sinned and fall short of the glory” - at least that’s how I interpret the sum total of what you say in this thread; which hopefully, is not your last word with regard to the thorny issue of #Reparations For Slavery….##REPARATIONS FOR SLAVERY
Correction:
Malcolm X said: “You CAN’T have capitalism without racism”
Which also reminds me of churchly capitalism in the form of “ tithes” 👍
Bukola Oyeniyi's Open Letter to Pastor Sam Adeoye
and the mother of all refutations - by none less than C.S. Lewis:
Jacobin Magazine has been running a series on Capitalism
We’ve got to be very careful lest we wind up conflating the distinction between revolutionary and reactionary as suggested here
Pharoah Sanders : You Got To Have Freedom