Adeniba,
I have the notion that your views especially on religion and contemporary matters bedevelling Nigeria are always above board.
However, your discussion on indigeneship of Lagos is not in consonant with your previous ratings. Having served my NYSC tutelage in Lagos many years ago, and spent a whole year within the metropolis, except on one ocassion when I had to be absent for four days in order to attend my University's graduation ceremony (for which I duly got permission from the state NYSC Directorate), I believed then I had met the requirement of full citezenship of Lagos State, also testified by my NYSC discharge certficate. During my one year stay, I was able learn few Yoruba words which enabled me to find my way through the thicks of Ajegunle, Mushin, Yaba and even traverse the famous Ojuelegba junction, mentioned by late Fela Anikulapo Kuti in his famous song-yellow fever. Now, your unexpecet view on citizenship of Lagos state would appear to be an attempt to stample on my rights and deny me the privileges conferred on me by the latter, through my one year compulsory service in the state. I therefore have no option, but to be disposed to resisting your unsolicited, unwelcome view on the matter and accordingly, I do so.
Malam Wane--On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 7:27 AM, Adeniba Adepoyigi <adenibaa...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
"There is no "natural indigene" of Lagos. Lagos is a Nigerian cosmopolis.- by Obi NwakanmaLagos is only a city in a 'territory' or land and as far as I know that territory or land was never proclaimed a 'terra nullius'. Yes, the Nigerian Constitution confers rights and privileges on Nigerians but those rights and privileges, in reference to land rights, will never be equal to the rights of the owners of a land or territory. That is the issue. There is no where in the world in which such rights are equal. If the Federal Government has a piece of land or territory, either by purchasing or forcibly acquiring it, then one could say all Nigerians have equal rights in respect of that land or territory. Apart from this, owners of a land or territory always have priority over 'settlers', arrivals, or visitors.Adeniba AdepoyigiAustralia
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Sent: Wed, 16 March, 2011 2:49:18 PM
Subject: RE: ||NaijaObserver|| Re: [OmoOdua] Who is a Lagosian?
"'naturalised' citizenship is often a privilege that can be withdrawn and this can take place irrespective of the generation of 'naturalised' citizenship."
-Adepoyigi
Any Nigerian, born within the legitimate boundaries of the Federal Republic of Nigeria, whose forebears were born within the legitimate boundaries of that Federation is an indigene of Nigeria, and therefore of Lagos. According to the constitution of the Federal Republic of Nigeria, such a person is a Nigerian and has rights, privileges, and obligations pertaining to those rights anywhere they may choose to reside within that federation. There is no "natural indigene" of Lagos. Lagos is a Nigerian cosmopolis. Every natural born Nigerian who decides to reside in Lagos either by recent settlement or by long tenancy is a Lagosian. The rights of Nigerian citizenship confers equal status. The talk about a "naturalized" Lagosian and an "indigenous Lagosian" is fraudulent and of no value, particularly because, there is no one today living in Lagos whose forebear is not an immigrant to Lagos. I'd like to see one. Indeed, over time, as Nigerians begin to establish and claim their due rights, any form of discrimination based on ethnicity, religion, impairment, etc would be actionable, especially as we move to enact the equal protection laws under the constitution of the Federal Republic of Nigeria and create enforcement capabilities. The old Igbo Lagosian originally from Anambra state has no greater or lower rights in Lagos than the recent immigrant Yoruba from Ekiti or Ondo or vice versa for example. An Indian, or German, or American or Italian, or Chadian or Senegalese can be a "naturalized" citizen of Nigeria and of Lagos, but not a native-born Nigerian. Every Nigerian is indigenous to Nigeria on any soil or piece of yarddage under the Nigerian sun. Get real.
Obi Nwakanma
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From: adenibaa...@yahoo.com.au
Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 18:56:55 -0700
Subject: ||NaijaObserver|| Re: [OmoOdua] Who is a Lagosian?
"It is we the migrants from all the towns and villages that have made up Nigeria, who have made Lagos our home, that have given it its soul" - by topcrest topcrestThe fact that you have admitted the immigrant status of those who come from other places to live in Lagos shows those people are only 'naturalised' citizens of Lagos. There is a huge difference between 'naturalised' citizenship and indigenous citizenship wherever you go in the world. Contrary to what many people think, the two classes of citizenship don't always enjoy equal rights. The 'naturalised' citizenship is often a privilege that can be withdrawn and this can take place irrespective of the generation of 'naturalised' citizenship. It seems this is an intrinsic element of the nature of humans as territorial animals because they often expell or even kill non-indigenous citizens in their territories. That is why the onus is always on those enjoying the privilege of 'naturalised' citizenship to be 'good' citizens and more importantly, accept and accord respect to the priority of indigenous citizenship.Adeniba AdepoyigiAustralia
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Sent: Wed, 16 March, 2011 5:18:41 AM
Subject: [OmoOdua] Who is a Lagosian?
Who is a Lagosian?
Ihave been rather crudely informed that I am not a Lagosian. This was brought to my attention by a friend of mine who knows my capacity to completely blank out matters I consider irksome. He knows that I have this terrible habit of avoiding, or better put, ignoring anything capable of really riling me up. Yet, he couldn’t help himself when he read the series of rejoinders and internet blogs to my article, Tinubu’s God Complex, published two Monday’s ago.
In some of the articles and blogs, he informed me that I had been reminded that I am not a Lagosian, was from the southeast, and therefore should go back to my state of origin to critique the governors who have made the region insecure. We both laughed at the level of ignorance projected by the writers and at the same time wondered why people that are seemingly educated still stuck in a time warp.
Well, if these writers must know, their principal, Bola Ahmed Tinubu, former governor of Lagos State, whom I presume they defended so glowingly, is not more Lagosian than I am, nor the next person standing next to him. The fact that he bears a Yoruba name and I an Igbo name, does not make him or the writers, whom I presume again are of Yoruba ethnic stock, more Lagosian than I am. Neither are they any less Lagosian than I am.
If they must know, I have lived in Lagos from my childhood. The first eight years of my life were spent on sojourns with my parents as they got their university education outside this country and went in search of greener pastures. Unlike some people, I did not relocate to Lagos as an adult. I happen to belong to the breed of Nigerians of different ethnic stock, but consider no where else but this city-state our home. Just like Tinubu, whose parents are not of Lagos origin, I intend to live here to dotage, die here, and be buried here.
If truth be told, if all of us from different parts of the country had to vacate Lagos for the sons of the soil, the state will be vacuous. Those originally from this state don’t account for more 10 percent of the population resident in Lagos. It is we the migrants from all the towns and villages that make up Nigeria, who have made Lagos our home, that have given it its soul. We also have the same rights as any claimant over Lagos. So those that have an issue with the bare facts, should go jump in the lagoon and leave this city, our home, for us.
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