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Toyin Falola

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Aug 18, 2016, 11:47:08 AM8/18/16
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Can someone please confirm that a state in Nigeria, Benue, has decided to have a 4-day working week, saying that state workers should use Friday and weekend to farm?
And that Governor Okorocha is planning the same?
I want to think that the information is not correct.
If it is correct, how do we convince “power” that productivity is key to economic development?
TF

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Farooq A. Kperogi

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Aug 18, 2016, 12:06:58 PM8/18/16
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This is absolutely true. I returned from Nigeria a few weeks ago. The Kwara State government has also proposed the same thing.

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Toyin Falola

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Aug 18, 2016, 12:14:06 PM8/18/16
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Farooq:
This is even a more powerful data to support your thesis in the self-destructive behavior of a group of people, even if we are looking for a label other than “middle class”
In some places, they have not been paid for 18 months.
Non-State Actors must come together. I have spent the last 4 days convincing two small clusters to consider the possibility of creating a movement.
TF

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Okechukwu Ukaga

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Aug 18, 2016, 1:01:11 PM8/18/16
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Sorry, part of the last sent should have been ....diverted into private pockets...
Please excuse this and other typos.
OU

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See link below ..... 4 days is too much! Rochas is planning a 3 days work week (not 4 days). He wants workers to use the other days to farm or trade so they can take care of their needs as the government is currently unwilling/unable to pay workers salaries. (What do you expect when most of the current political leaders in the country are certified con men?. I do not blame the corrupt politicians. They people I blame are the intellectuals (including some on this list) who keep telling us that all is well. No, the situation is horrible at the federal, state and local government levels. We have mostly crooks and jokers in power across various political parties. No party is clean in this regard. And until/unless the people stop making excuses for corrupt and/or in-effective leaders, there will never be a positive change in the country, regardless of which party is in power.  That is why I appreciate honest contributions from folks like Faroog and Moses, and others even though they get "heckled" for being critical. As a Buhari supporter, my major disappointment with Buhari so far is that all of these are still happening under his watch. I honestly expected things to change. Perhaps, I was being unrealistic. Perhaps, I underestimated the ability of a corrupt system and (those it benefits) to render ineffective even someone like Buhari of which much (perhaps too much) was expected.  Nevertheless, I still feel he has not done all he can and should do to deal with corruption in the land.  For instanceif I was the president, I would encourage the EFCC to investigate the fiances of any state government/governor that is unable to pay workers, pensioners, and contractors, etc as nothing can a more obvious sign of mismanagement and corruption than that. If it turns out that that all is well that is fine. But if on the other hand it turns out that money that could and should have used to pay government bills have been illegally diverted into public pockets,  is is most likely to be the case, then such funds should be recovered and the perpetrators punished. 
 

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Okechukwu Ukaga

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Aug 18, 2016, 1:01:17 PM8/18/16
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Prof,
See link below ..... 4 days is too much! Rochas is planning a 3 days work week (not 4 days). He wants workers to use the other days to farm or trade so they can take care of their needs as the government is currently unwilling/unable to pay workers salaries. (What do you expect when most of the current political leaders in the country are certified con men?. I do not blame the corrupt politicians. They people I blame are the intellectuals (including some on this list) who keep telling us that all is well. No, the situation is horrible at the federal, state and local government levels. We have mostly crooks and jokers in power across various political parties. No party is clean in this regard. And until/unless the people stop making excuses for corrupt and/or in-effective leaders, there will never be a positive change in the country, regardless of which party is in power.  That is why I appreciate honest contributions from folks like Faroog and Moses, and others even though they get "heckled" for being critical. As a Buhari supporter, my major disappointment with Buhari so far is that all of these are still happening under his watch. I honestly expected things to change. Perhaps, I was being unrealistic. Perhaps, I underestimated the ability of a corrupt system and (those it benefits) to render ineffective even someone like Buhari of which much (perhaps too much) was expected.  Nevertheless, I still feel he has not done all he can and should do to deal with corruption in the land.  For instanceif I was the president, I would encourage the EFCC to investigate the fiances of any state government/governor that is unable to pay workers, pensioners, and contractors, etc as nothing can a more obvious sign of mismanagement and corruption than that. If it turns out that that all is well that is fine. But if on the other hand it turns out that money that could and should have used to pay government bills have been illegally diverted into public pockets,  is is most likely to be the case, then such funds should be recovered and the perpetrators punished. 
 

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Segun Ogungbemi

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Aug 18, 2016, 1:01:22 PM8/18/16
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What these political leaders are doing is absurd. 
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K. Gozie Ifesinachukwu

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Aug 18, 2016, 1:57:53 PM8/18/16
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If based on productivity as a measure for remuneration, Nigerian workers (especially the public workers) are the highest paid workforce in the world. And off course, we already know that Nigeria National Legislators are the highest paid in the world with the equivalent of $1.4B/year if the actual $4M/year is measured relative to respective GDP of Nigeria and USA. Nigerian National legislator pay scale is destroying Nigeria and there are very few within the National Congress with conscience to object to such outrageous pay. Former governors and legislators, get to keep houses built by public money that they lived in while serving, and extra-ordinary “pension” for serving the “people” even after the hefty pays while in office. I see the legal pay for these legislators and governors as “official” corruption. A typical American federal legislator makes approximately 3 times the average income of average American, while a Nigeria legislator makes more than 2000 times the average Nigerian. If this outsized pay for Nigeria legislators and governors is not official corruption, I am not sure what corruption should be. With the “honorable” legislators, governors, former governors and former legislators as “good” examples, why should the ASUU or any other government worker not seek to get more pay for less work? Heck, 3day work week for the same salary may not be good enough to get to the example set by the “honorable” legislators. Nigeria is not serious. Very frustrating.

 

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Prof,

See link below ..... 4 days is too much! Rochas is planning a 3 days work week (not 4 days). He wants workers to use the other days to farm or trade so they can take care of their needs as the government is currently unwilling/unable to pay workers salaries. (What do you expect when most of the current political leaders in the country are certified con men?. I do not blame the corrupt politicians. They people I blame are the intellectuals (including some on this list) who keep telling us that all is well. No, the situation is horrible at the federal, state and local government levels. We have mostly crooks and jokers in power across various political parties. No party is clean in this regard. And until/unless the people stop making excuses for corrupt and/or in-effective leaders, there will never be a positive change in the country, regardless of which party is in power.  That is why I appreciate honest contributions from folks like Faroog and Moses, and others even though they get "heckled" for being critical. As a Buhari supporter, my major disappointment with Buhari so far is that all of these are still happening under his watch. I honestly expected things to change. Perhaps, I was being unrealistic. Perhaps, I underestimated the ability of a corrupt system and (those it benefits) to render ineffective even someone like Buhari of which much (perhaps too much) was expected.  Nevertheless, I still feel he has not done all he can and should do to deal with corruption in the land.  For instance, if I was the president, I would encourage the EFCC to investigate the fiances of any state government/governor that is unable to pay workers, pensioners, and contractors, etc as nothing can a more obvious sign of mismanagement and corruption than that. If it turns out that that all is well that is fine. But if on the other hand it turns out that money that could and should have used to pay government bills have been illegally diverted into public pockets,  is is most likely to be the case, then such funds should be recovered and the perpetrators punished. 

 

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On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 10:45 AM, Toyin Falola <toyin...@austin.utexas.edu> wrote:

Can someone please confirm that a state in Nigeria, Benue, has decided to have a 4-day working week, saying that state workers should use Friday and weekend to farm?

And that Governor Okorocha is planning the same?

I want to think that the information is not correct.

If it is correct, how do we convince “power” that productivity is key to economic development?

TF

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Ibukunolu A Babajide

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Dear Prof.,

The civil servants do nothing. They will be more productive on their farms.

The alternative is mass retrenchment in the public service which is worse than the current policy.

Cheers.

IBK


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Toyin Falola

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IBK:
Thanks. I have received many private Email messages saying the same thing. In effect, Nigeria operates some kind of welfare system without saying so! Indeed, one of the private contacts said that in his office, eleven of them report to work daily but there is no work  ever assigned to them.  
An unknown part of my life to many people is that I was once a civil servant, an Administrative Officer. It was such a difficult job to get. Following the British system, we did written exams. in the last year of a degree program. Those exams were graded by neutral agents. Months later, rigorous oral interviews were conducted. At the end of it, the State only hired 5 of us. The governor of the state or the permanent secretaries could not influence the process. The five were then assigned to ministries on the basis of performance. I was posted to the Civil Service Commission, headed by Mr. Faturoti, a distinguished school principal whose son, Demola, is on this list. I was trained on how to handle promotion and disciplinary matters. I became powerful! Tough work. At 5 PM, you checked all the cars that no one senior to you was still around, and you must never leave. Should the Commissioners keep working till 9 PM, I had to stay till 9.30. The work could never be completed.

….and institutional decay and collapse began to set in gradually from the 1980s. Governors became emperors. Politicians enlarged the bureaucracies as these are the places they can get jobs for their followers…

Today, the disaster you reported below….the rot of a nation begins slowly

In textbooks on politics, one that we now have to revise in Nigeria, the civil service is the force of stability and planning. Politicians come and go, the civil servants remain the rock. 

Alas! Since there is no work for them to do, as you pointed out below, they are now being asked to recede to the farms, as educated peasants! I thought all the theories of the late colonial and early years of Independence asked them to leave the farms!

I thought part of the path to the civil war was that one part of the country was accused of dominating another via the civil servants, with innocent lives eliminated in the process.

I thought over 80% of the country’s annual revenues are committed to personal matters and overheads.

Question: why not allocate the budget to agriculture, and go back to the basic—develop the rural areas so that the genuine farmers are empowered, and the civil service is cut by 60%?

Drastic circumstances call for drastic measures., although I understand that cutting off a head may be too drastic a cure for a lingering headache.

A mass movement, cutting across all religions and all ethnicities, must emerge to begin planning for a mass revolution that will change cultures and values, rethink politics and democracy, etc. 
TF

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Mobolaji Aluko

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My People:

It is called "Thinking out of the box".

There are 36 states in Nigeria.  Some states should be allowed to try different things, to see how and/or whether they work out.  If they do - fine.  If they don't, they can always revert to the five-day working week.

Imagine if a three-day work-week, from which the two days off to work on farms lead to great farming economic productivity.  We might even then hire more civil servants for the two days remaining under the condition that they work on the farm for three days.

We got to think  out of the box, ladies and gentlemen.  Our first reaction to interesting action should not be necessarily condemnatory.

And there you have it.  Benue, Imo and Kwara have my support for their work-free-days-for-farming social experiment.



Bolaji Aluko


Toyin Falola

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Alagba:

Are you sure they will farm?

Operation Green Revolution was tried before.

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Prof TF -

What an interesting conversation! My question is, why not four days? As you know, I just came back from the north a few months ago. My research associate and myself concluded that it would be better to make Friday a non-work day in Northern Nigeria or even across Nigeria. You ask why? It is because in our experience, hardly did anyone go to work on Fridays. Some "essential staff" like Desk Officers, Security Officers, and canteen staff, did go but spent less than three hours actively at work because by 10 am., they were getting ready, cleaning out their desks, and making or receiving phone calls to or from colleagues and family members in preparation for either picking them up at 11 am or for the callers to pick those individuals up for the travel to the Jumu'ah that would start at noon, after which the day was spent!

In fact, right from our first day at the UNICEF office in Abuja, the Chief Field Officer told us upfront never to plan anything important for Fridays because there would hardly be anyone at the offices. We thought he must be kidding and could not mean it. To our chagrin, we found that to be very true. The same culture is spreading in the southwest, especially in Kwara, Oyo and Osun States; I am not familiar with other Yoruba states but I would be pleasantly surprised if that has not become the case there either.

Friday has been turned into a laissez-faire day. I would not mind it though, provided that regardless of what they use their Fridays for, staff salaries are based on four days of work. After all, there are nations like Spain which spend less than 40 hours a week with its laidback work ethics and receive salaries for what they do. I know, though, this model of earn-what-you-do for Nigeria is just a wishful thinking on my part. Anything less, however, would only drag a dragging economy to the abyss!

Just thinking loud . . .

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Sir:
If Muslims are allowed half a day or full day on a Friday because of religious obligations, why not start the week on a Sunday?
Why can’t Christians work on Friday and start the work day on a Monday?
At Babcock University and other Seventh Day Adventists' work place, they, like Muslims, close early on Friday, perform religious obligations on Saturday and start work on Sunday.
Planting corn and yam on Fridays by civil servants wont bring development in a knowledge-driven economy. 
I am always wrong on all these issues.

Soni Oyekan

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I agree totally with Prof. Toyin Falola's assessments,analysis and bold recommendations.  It is time to promote major, national, purposefully directed initiatives for Nigeria. One would focus on conscription of our young men and women into military services for some initial years of their lives ( 3 or 5 years)  and later as part of a national guard type force. The other major national initiative of should be mass movement permanently of many "idle" civil servants in Federal, state or local governments and unemployed Nigerians into the agricultural sector. Agriculture must become a MAJOR active and expanding program of the nation.  Nigeria's population is growing practically unchecked and there is a present and growing need to feed the teeming population at moderate costs and providing all the food that Nigerians are going to need should be a major national program. That should be undertaken either now or as soon as feasible. Postponing would continue to lead to high food prices, food scarcity in due course and high inflationary pressures on the Nigerian economy which it is currently experiencing.

Providing necessary security to protect its natural assets of its people, land, oil and gas,and other mineral resources, would lead to the overwhelming need to develop and maintain strong active military forces similar in time to what Israel has established to protects its national assets and land. Nigeria is blessed with fertile land and the country should have a multi-prong attack for re-vitalizing its economy. The country needs electric power to drive agriculture, industrial plants and homes.  It needs to effect massive re-direction of Nigerians to the agricultural sector while also utilizing Nigeria's oil and gas for national consumption and for generating much needed foreign revenues. We could also learn from China as they are now poised to gain substantially and continue as a global economic power from major massive agricultural other economic initiatives that they placed in motion decades ago.

This is the time to begin to drive some of these bold type of initiatives. Definitely not do them 20 years down the road and not 10 years down the road as the population increase would continue to take its toll on a Nigerian economy that is ill prepared to provide for its population now and in the future.

My views are unsolicited and I am providing them freely.

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Michael Afolayan

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Prof - 

Unfortunately, this is not a sustainable model in Nigeria or for Nigerians. It is way too logical. People would rather resort to history, and as you know, the only time that history seems to matter is when it plays to our "advantage." It is easy for Babcock to mandate strictly regimentalized work days based on the founders' faith, and for a population of less than 5000 heads. When it comes to asking the 80 million Muslims to start work on Sundays, the politicians would remind the innovator/s of the idea that such has never been so in Nigerian history. History does matter then!

And worse still, a challenge to that model is what to do with the mixed faith populations of many northern States - are Christians going to work at the exclusions of Muslims on Fridays, or are Muslims going to the office on Sundays at the exclusion of Christians? It is dilemmatic, a lost cause in a nation that is still trying to find its basic compass in the vast jungle of social polity. I still hold on to my proffered solution, simplistic as it may sound: add any day/s to your work-free days to farm, fast, fish, pray, travel, sleep, or what have you, as long as you are paid for the days you worked.  L'o ba tan!

Michael


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Akin Alao

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In the south-west, schools close early on Fridays.   School grounds are now open air event centres for owambe parties‎ usually associated with  burial and marriage engagement ceremonies. 

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Prof,
Benue is my State though I work out of the State.  I can confirm this. It covers the State civil service mostly. I am affiliated with the Benue State University and this does not cover the University and the school system. Governor Okorocha is thinking of more than one day off to farming in a week.
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During the recently concluded Fulbright orientation in DC.,  I listened to previous Fellows who were invited to narrate their experiences in order to educate others about things to watch out for in their respective African host countries. The goal of the exercise is to help the newbies learn how to make positive experiences and return alive.

Of course, no narrative about the continent will occur without Nigeria featuring prominently. The young European American lady who was stationed in Lagos recounted several negative experiences she had in Nigeria. Ranging from bribes by the police, soldiers with guns, and even by nurses in highly rated hospitals that lacked services. The stories are familiar and they are not the point of this posting.

Three of us Nigerians listened shame-faced as “she flogged our pains repeatedly with her words”. There was Abiodun, a big bald headed man. As soon as the lady finished her gory tales, Abiodun raised her hands in objection. Not recognized, he flared up to those of us sitting next to him. “This is not the purpose of the Fulbright. I have been to 73 countries and there is none without any negative story. There is no justification whatsoever to tarnish the image of another country,” he continued, very angrily.

Then there was Bella, a young Nigerian who works for the American Embassy in Nigeria. She was at the orientation to represent the US Embassy and to assure Fellows of the services, that she, on behalf of the American Embassy will provide for them in Nigeria. She said politely, “if you don’t like the narrative, then change it. People have the right to tell their experience as long as they are not lying.”

That was not all. In the afternoon session, people were posing practical questions pertaining to eventual donations to their host universities. A scholar-artist who was previously at the University of Ife as a Fulbright scholar and now going back to Nigeria, this time, to the University of Ibadan, produced another shocker. According to this man, whose sculptures are still to be seen in Ife, he had donated to the department his many heavy equipment, including welding machines and industrial generator for the use of students. No sooner has he left than the department sold all his donations. What should he now do to prevent the same from happening at UI? I looked around, luckily, Abiodun was not in the room.

Yoruba people say: “Agidi o ran, ija o ran” (strong head no do am, katakata no fix am). Is narrating any of our many gory tales from, and experiences in, Nigeria at any time damaging to the country?

Augustine

Segun Ogungbemi

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Aug 25, 2016, 4:51:14 AM8/25/16
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Ladies and Gentlemen,
If 3% of Nigerians engage in active and extensive mechanized farming, are we saying they cannot feed the teeming population? 
Considering the number of institutions of agriculture both local and international, there is no need for governors to engage the civil servants in farming when they never included that as part of their roles while in active service. 
It is rather in my opinion an insult which the NLC and other unions should rebuke. 
We are seeing the shallow idea of governance and insensitivity of the leaders the electorate elected to help them remove the yoke of poverty and underdevelopment. 
If the governors cannot come up with robust and reasonable strategy to alleviate the sufferings of the people they should honorably resign. 
SO

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Dear Prof. Brother and Mentor,

Thank you sir.   You just reminded me of a discussion I had with Prof. Adebayo Adedeji ex Fed Minister, ex USG United Nations world acclaimed orifessir if development economist.

He told me how he started life as a DO District Officer in the 50s in Ilaro my home town.  One of his first duties was to take baton wielding police men to arrest his maternal uncle from Ijebu Ode who was a cocoa dealer but was not paying taxes to government.

Later after all back taxes were paid the uncle went to his mother in Ijebu dialect, "Ye Bayo nse ni omo re Bayo ko Olopa wa la kondo mo oruwo mi!" Bayo's mum your son Bayo brought police men to hit my head with their batons.

The civil service you describe here is no more. The civil service that Pa. Simeon Adebo in 1955 built from scratch to the awesome admiration of colonial civil servants who thought it was impossible is no more.

That Western Region civil service was so successful that it was used as the model for the civil service in British East Africa - Kenya, Uganda and Tanzania. They came to understand and understudy it and technocrats were sent to help them with setting up theirs too.

From 15 January 1966  the ignorant soldiers have consistently eroded the civil service and have turned it into a very corrupt unmeritotious over bloated institution.

The reality on the ground is that the current civil service both at the centre and in the states are over bloated inefficient and a drain on resources. The oil boom is gone and the huge subsidy that subsidises our inefficiencies and unproductive lives is no longer available.

The reality is mass retrenchment of the bloated civil service. The first step is identifying the ghost workers and prosecuting the humans collecting the salary of the ghosts and mass retrenchment.

The Benue and Imo experiment will soon be copied by the over 20 states of Nigeria that are not viable because they can not sustain themselves without federal allocation or are too indebted to pay salaries.

The Governors of states have looted the treasuries of states brazenly especially under the PDP.

It is pay back time and we must all brace ourselves for the consequences of many years of bad governance.

Abo mi re o!
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Cheers.

IBK


Abubakar Momoh

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Aug 25, 2016, 9:45:55 AM8/25/16
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Ojogbon TF,
Most  certainly Gov Okorocha officially stated that 3 working days at the office and 2 days on the farm fir Imo state workers. And the central lsbour organisation NLC has quickly criticised his position. I have not heard  of any news media that reported the case of Benue state. But  being the "basket food"of Nigeria he may also be tempted into believing that subsistence agriculture and small farm holdings are what will lead to mass employment and food production.
Abu

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Farooq A. Kperogi

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IBK,

Stop this trite and tired sentimentalization of the putative glories of the civil servants of bygone days as a convenient cover to justify the conscienceless economic strangulation of an already vulnerable stratum of the society. No past was ever perfect. There were as many lazy, unproductive civil servants in the past as there are today, and there are as many hardworking, transaction-oriented civil servants now as there were in the past. But that's frankly even irrelevant.

You are waxing all lyrical and pontifical because a bunch of thoughtless, thieving, insensate state governors have decided to deepen the misery of poorly paid civil servants by cutting their pay and sending them to farms against their wishes. However, although you admit that state governors steal money meant for the people they govern, you prescribe no punishment for the errant governors. You don't think they should suffer any consequences for their transgressions. It is only lowly civil servants that should brace themselves "for the consequences of many years of bad governance." How convenient!

You said "The reality on the ground is that the current civil service both at the centre and in the states are over bloated inefficient and a drain on resources."  Well, I have news for you: it isn't the civil service that is a drain on resources; it is the political elite. As a recent Wall Street Journal report pointed out, "Seventy percent of the national treasury is spent on the salaries and benefits of government officials, who make upwards of $2 million a year" (see http://www.wsj.com/articles/buhari-is-nigerias-problem-not-its-solution-1466109183). Yes, 70 percent! And, yes, top governmental officials make an average of $2 million a year. That's light-years higher than what the president of the United States makes.

So if you want efficiency in the system and a gain on resources (to  play on your choice of words), look to ":overbloated" elected and appointed political officials, not subaltern civil servants whose take-home pay has already been rendered basically useless by the hyperinflationary conflagration that Buhari's incompetent husbandry of the economy has ignited.

 But I guess it's infinitely way easier to beat up on weak, helpless people who are already writhing in pain on the ground than to confront the big guys.

Farooq

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Moses Ebe Ochonu

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This goes to illustrate what Farooq was trying to underscore: the reverse Robin Hood phenomenon of the government constantly extracting money from or denying benefits to the poor to sustain the luxuries of the rich and the political class or to shield them seem any form of sacrifice.





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