Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Are you talking about fellow Nigerians?
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Subject: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Are you talking about fellow Nigerians?
Date: Thu, Jul 26, 2018 9:19 AM
Adepoju:
Is it possible for you to moderate your language on the herdsmen issue? Notice how Jibrin and Moses are specific. Yours tend to present the Fulani as if they are not citizens of the same country as you. Exercise caution. You cannot paint an entire group of people as terroritsts.
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Date: Thursday, July 26, 2018 at 8:15 AM
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Subject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Expression of Appreciation to Those onthis Group Tackling the Problem of Fulani Terrorism
Olayinka,
I have repeatedly stated that Buhari is a deliberate terrorist enabler, both of Boko Haram and Fulani terrorism.
My focus in my post was on Sanusi's description of Northern Nigerian Islam as stuck in the 13th century, which he exemplified by ridiculing a governor from the region claiming a disease was caused by sin and the wrath of Allah instead of finding vaccines to address the problem.
On your other point, about Buhari concealing his true nature prior to 2015, I am puzzled. Buhari's antecedents are clear to all who follow his history. From his first time as head of state, to his years in PTF, to his time under Abacha, to his role as enabler of the 2011 massacre of innocents by his followers in revenge for his electoral loss,, to his North centric politics, to his culture as a Fulani terrorism enabler in connection with the infamous incident in the SW when his brethren were routed after much despoilation by them in the SW, to his orientation as a Boko Haram enabler who used his considerable political capital in trying to sabotage the anti-Boko Haram struggle by first declaring the war agst Boko Haram was war agst the North and later declaring Boko Haram as the work of the fed govt, to his threat that blood would flow if he lost in 2015 as he did in 2011, he is not doing anything now that was not generally anticipated by his critics who understand the template represented by his history.
In reference to the expectations of the Muslim North, I am puzzled at your reference. Buhari's central value as a politician is his Northern Muslim base, secured through a long cultivation of an image as a right wing Northern Muslim champion.
It was the South that allowed itself to be deceived by the propaganda of soldiers of fortune like Tinubu, who knowing very well what Buhari represents, having issued a forceful reprimand to Buhari and IBB in 2008 for declaring, at the Abacha memorial in Kano, that Abacha did not steal, even as part of Abacha's massive loot was being returned to Nigeria by Switzerland, a critique from Buhari's AC presented by their spokesman, the now infamous Lai Muhammed, mobilized their resources to use Buhari as a way into Aso Rock under an anti-corruption platform, with the same Lai Muhammed as spokesman for this new initiative.
We all know how that so called entry of the SW into the centre of Nigerian politics has turned pout. Buhari simply built an agenda evocative of his old party, the Northern Muslim centred CPC, the same CPC that could not get him into Aso Rock without his Southern collaborators, emblematised by Tinubu's AC.
The 2015 election was about the mantra 'power must return to the North', a demand festering since PDP refused to locate their Presidential candidate in the North for 2011, decrying the understanding of some about PDP's internal agreements, following which disappointment, Atiku Abubakar, having got himself anointed as Northern consensus candidate, threatened Nigeria with violent change in retaliation. On GEJ's 2011 swearing in, the Boko Haram escalation commenced.
This was the sequence GEJ's earlier Chief Security Office Andrew Azazi alluded to in describing the Boko Haram resurgence as emerging from those dissappointed in their power aspirations by internal PDP politics and which Soyinka, who has been well informed on these configurations but has used his knowledge in a questionable manner as represented by his supporting Buhari in 2015, also referenced even before Azazi.
The 'power must return to the North' mantra seems to have become a dominant orientation in the North by 2011 and was the central orientation Boko Haram built on in the first two years of its 2011 resurgence, focusing on bombing and machine gunning govt establishments, govt officers and churches, while avoiding attacking the general populace and Islamic environments, such as mosques, thereby projecting themselves as Muslim warriors fighting an infidel govt and the religious affiliates of that govt, a strategy leading even Bamanga Tukur, the head of the President's own party, PDP, declaring them as freedom fighters, with the govt's eventual decisive move agst them described by Adamawa state governor Murtala Nyako, in a letter he circulated to Northern governors, as anti-North genocide and Buhari declaring the anti-Boko Haram war as war agst the North.
The story of Boko Haram is the story of the suicidal harboring of a scorpion in its bosom by a region. By the time the ravages of this evil were realized, it had dug in deep. The current Fulani terrorism initiative is another side of a similar orientation but run by a more hardline, more cunning group, better embedded in civil society and politics, with the current President at their centre.
The templates for understanding the unfolding scenario are represented by a cross between Omar Al Bahir's efforts at Islamo/ethnic dominance in Sudan using the janjaweed militia and Hezollah's questionable role in relation to the Lebanese govt and their eventual integration into the Lebanese govt.
What we have now is a right wing, ethnic supremacist Fulani centred organisation at the core of the Nigerian government, running both the country's security services and a private army, using Miyetti Allah Fulani Socio-Cultural Organisation as their spokesmen.
I expect this fact to become clearer if Buhari wins in 2019.
toyin
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In other words either majority of the North who voted Buhari in were stupid regarding Buharis true agenda or Buhari did not show his true nature until he was voted in.
At least you were generous enough to admit that Miyetti Allah alleged terrorist sponsor Lamidi recently called for a reform of Islamic doctrines ( Oxford University) to which I commented by expressing doubt about Islamic core doctrines (marriage) being reformed exclusively from Nigeria.
Finally you have just implicitly in this post branded President Buhari of Nigeria a terrorist!
OAA
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I hereby express appreciation to all those on this group who are helping the nation tackle its greatest contemporary challenge- the desperate greed of Fulani supremacists and their Hausa-Fulani accomplices using terrorism, civil society pressure groups and political manipulation to make Nigeria their feeding ground.
Those people I hereby appreciate on this group might not agree with all my perspectives on this challenge, but they are to be appreciated for not behaving as if a monster is not on the prowl and for not struggling to avoid examining who is controlling or egging on the monster.
I have regrettably not been able of recent to respond to the usual verbal gymnastics of those who are singing the same ineffectual song on a challenge that has been escalating since Buhari assumed office, mouthing platitudes as the flow of blood rises in the midst of Fulani pressure groups justifying that blood flow and walking free like invincible kings.
Fulani terrorism is terrorism carried out by Fulani people in the pursuit of ethnic centered interests.
This terrorism is managed in civil society by Miyetti Allah Fulani Socio-Cultural Organisation, led by Nigeria's most elite Fulani, of which the Sultan of Sokoto, the head of Nigeria's Muslims and ex-central bank governor Sanusi Lamido Sanusi, are the most prominent, and the affiliates of Miyetti Allah, such as MACBAN, as Miyetti Allah publicly justifies the massacres carried out by the Fulani herdsmen terrorists, in politics by Hausa-Fulani politicians at the center of which is Muhammadu Buhari and in terms of a military wing of Fulani herdsmen.
It is not simply a story of 'criminals' as some would want us to believe.
Clearly, the term 'Fulani terrorism' does not imply all Fulani are being presented as terrorists. It means some Fulani are terrorists, terrorists pursuing an ethnic centred goal- the goal of national domination by their ethnicity using Fulani herdsmen as a nation wide penetration tool.
Even those who see this interpretation of the unfolding systemic massacres as far fetched agree that there exists in Nigeria a terrorist army associated with Fulani herdsmen and massacres by whom are recurrently publicly justified by Miyetti Allah, while Nigeria's Fulani President all but ignores them, as they get on with what ex-Minister of Defense T.Y. Danjuma rightly describes as ethnic cleansing.
'Fulani herdsmen terrorists' refers to those Fulani herdsmen who are terrorists.
Olayinka has observed I dont like Buhari. I detest what Buhari stands for.
Cornelius has wondered what I mean by the term 'right wing Fulani'.
I detest what Buhari stands for because he is an epitome of a right wing ethno-religious mentality that dominates the Muslim North against the interests of the majority of people in that region and against the interests of Nigeria.
I have described this mentality as likely emerging from the hard line, aristocracy centred form of Islam introduced by Uthman Dan Fodio into the Muslim North through the Fulani Jihad, a puristic, inhumane and chauvinistic inflexibility that makes it different from the much more humane version represented by SW Nigerian Islam and possibly by Islam in such places as Senegal.
Reform is desperately needed, as even Sanusi, who may be seen as a man in conflicted search for a cause, was urging relatively recently until he was blackmailed into silence by Northern Muslim conservatives.
It was my observation of this right wing ethno-religious mentality from before and after the 2011 Boko Haram escalation that spiked my interest in Nigerian politics, and observing Buhari's embodiment of the most deadly aspects of this mentality, I expected little or nothing of value to Nigeria from him and increasingly, Nigerians are beginning to agree with views like mine.
I anticipate that if Buhari is returned in 2019, Nigeria will face greater hell as he would have nothing to lose by full pursuit of the ethnic supremacist vision he shares with others like him. How many in 2014 anticipated the current Fulani herdsmen terrorist crisis ? Those who voiced fears along such lines were seen as extremists. I would be happy to be proven wrong in my prediction of Buhari in connection with 2019 and beyond.
I am not able right now to again detail my explanation for my views, which I have presented before. I could do that another time.
Thanks.
Oluwatoyin Vincent Adepoju
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Agreed. Good point.
Incendiary language, hate speech, ethnic chauvinism and bigotry will not solve the problem.
A cool headed mature approach should also take into consideration the big regional picture.
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Oluwatoyin Vincent Adepoju
" 'Fulani herdsmen terrorists' refers to those Fulani herdsmen who are terrorists".
If you think either or both of the postulations above are wrong, please state that and state your reasons.
That position about some Fulani being terrorists, if held by you, would be denying the facts presented by Miyetti Allah Fulani Socio-Cultural Organisation, who, have at various times, publicly justified the massacres carried out by the Fulani herdsmen terrorist army.
If you disagree with that summation of Miyetti Allah's stance on this subject, I will bring up Moses Ochonu's careful research unearthing news reports of that group doing exactly that, something that can be readily further confirmed through the first page of a Google search.
You might agree that some Fulani are terrorists but disagree with my summation of the grand plan of this terrorist group-
'... terrorists pursuing an ethnic centred goal- the goal of national domination by their ethnicity using Fulani herdsmen as a nation wide penetration tool".
I have severally stated why I hold this is an accurate reading of the triangulation between Miyetti Allah, the Fulani herdsmen terrorists, and the Fulani led Nigerian government and am happy to do so again, if you insist.
There is nothing new in the strategy being carried out by what I describe as
' a right wing, ethnic supremacist Fulani centred organisation at the core of the Nigerian government, running both the country's security services and a private army, using Miyetti Allah Fulani Socio-Cultural Organisation as their spokesmen'. Omar al Bashir did it in Sudan and echoes of related tactics emerged with Hezbollah in Lebanon, Boko Haram also tried it but did not have the right coordination, so its possible for extremist members of a group within a nation to try to dominate that nation through terror.
I have also located these developments in contemporary Nigeria in relation to the vision and strategies of the Fulani Jihad of Uthman Dan Fodio and am happy to elaborate if required.
That jihad seems to have laid foundations of a mentality ultimately unhelpful to this nation. The fruits of that jihad are desperately in need of reform. I am also happy to describe that jihad and its contemporary resonance.
My writing on this crisis is informed by integrating my observations in membership of and reading in various Northern Muslim Nigerian dominated social media and Nigerian history past and present as well as my exposure to various aspects of Fulani culture and history, classical Fulani cosmology being one of those that inspires me most and a subject to which I have not only written about but have made an original contribution.
I am therefore not operating from a stance of random emotion or uninformed critique.
The sheer truth right now is that Nigeria's Fulani are being misguided by the dominance of some delusional leaders, people who think we are still in the era of Dan Fodio.
We are at war.
The sooner we help these misguided people emerge from their delusion, the better for everyone.
The Catholic Church also used to be a warrior church, making it their business to be central in the rulership of Europe by almost any means necessary, but they have moved on from that mentality.
The Fulani and Hausa-Fulani warlords, from Atiku Abubakar threatening Nigeria with violent change bcs he was not made PDP Presidential candidate for 2011, thereby laying an ideological foundation which Boko Haram built on in their 2011 escalation, to Buhari threatening that the 'dog and the baboon would be soaked in blood' if he lost in 2015 as he did in 2011, echoing the massacre of innocents by his supporters for his 2011 defeat, to Miyetti Allah running and acting as spokesmen for a terrorist army rampaging across the nation and decimating communities in the Middle Belt, and trying to use the fed govt to setup colonies across the nation even as their people rain havoc on individual Nigerians across the nation, while the millionaire owners of their cows simply refuse to provide ranches for their people in their own territory but want Nigerians to buy their vision of nation wide settlement of their people using Nigeria's money or face their bloodthirsty armies, must also move on.
No people can develop within such a culture of institutionalized barbarism.
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toyin
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Olayinka,Why should some people think that they have a right to kill or massacre or threaten to kill or massacre other Nigerians at will, and, as you put it, those people being massacred should "understand" the context in which their lives are being made of little value and certainly far below the value of those who have made themselves lord of life and death over other Nigerians?Can anyone coexist in any meaningful sense with those who share such a mindset?As for the presence of Osinbajo in Aso Rock, even though the matter is tiresome to reiterate, let me tell you categorically that Osinbajo's presence has no significant effect on the character of the fed govt.Same with the general Southern presence in this fed govt.A govt is defined by its priorities, by its most strategic initiatives.Do you think an Osibanjo led govt would have the character of the govt we have today?Whatever may be said about Tinubu's alleged corrupt plutocracy as well as what we know about Fashola's ridiculous and shameful stunt using 18 million naira in creating a website celebrating himself, the SW leadership, and certainly not the most prominent represented by the Lagos centred political elite, is not known for the medieval mindset represented by Buhari's leadership style.When you have an Osibanjo as VP and a Buhari as President, then something is wrong with your polity.
What Buhari is running is a govt centred on the control of military resources by a right wing Hausa-Fulani and centrally Fulani oligarchy.The striking force of this military organisation is the Fulani herdsmen terrorists. The civil society pressure group that runs the terrorist organisation and provides public justification for the massacres they commit is Miyetti Allah Fulani Socio-Cultural Organization. The national security organisations that support the terrorists by avoiding engaging with them or even taking their leadership to task are the Nigerian police, the Nigerian army and the State Security Services, coordinated by the Minister of Defense, all led by Hausa-Fulani or Fulani appointees of the Fulani President, those appointments being the only significant act of his govt for the first six months, in which time he did not appoint ministers, calling them 'troublemakers', the Inspector General of Police and the Minister of Defense also acting as public justficators of the massacres carried out by the terrorists.The political organisation that not only makes sure the leadership of the terrorists is never questioned but allowed to demonstrate their right to rule over life and death over entire Nigerian communities, create obfuscation by periodically claiming the terrorists are not Nigerians while struggling to create legislation rewarding them with land across Nigeria while the millionaire Fulani owners of the cows used as penetration forces are silent about any efforts they are making or wish to make about ranching their cows, and in their own region, but constantly make it clear that Nigerians must give up their land or face more massacres is Buhari and his political affiliates.That is the terrorist network currently running Nigeria.This network is an amplification of already existing tendencies embodied by right wing extremists who dominate the Muslim North.Nigeria need to decouple from these characters who live in a different moral universe from the rest of Nigeria. This decoupling is also central to the fundamental need for Nigerians to decide if they wish to remain within Nigeria and, if so, on what terms.I am not able to see a good no of the political class agreeing to this bcs the country's dysfunctionality works for them, and certainly not the Hausa-Fulani oligarchy bcs that would confine their sources of income and power to a region which they have impoverished more than the Southern politicians have cheated the South.That is why the IPOB civil disobedience no-elections-unless-referendum strategy is the best I have seen so far.After the fed govt succeed in neutralising Nnamdi Kanu and diluting IPOB's power, all talk of restructuring dissipated or dissappeared. IPOB was inadvertently driving the restructuring debate, an option invoked as an alternative to their secession initiative.If IPOB had held their planned sit-at-home undisturbed, they would have succeeded. People like the Niger Delta were likely to have followed suit. If that continued, they would all get their referendum and once the Niger Delta goes, Nigeria would be over bcs its that oil wealth that is the central attraction fir so called Nigerian unity, in my view.thankstoyin
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